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Lori,

Are you bored or are you in the bathroom again. Geez, Im sitting

here and my flag keeps popping up ...Lori Lori... Lori.. Usually it's Deb..

LOL BTW I had a blast meeting everyone. Everyone was beautiful and funny. I

can't wait to see everyone at the picnic.

Trish Lanman

MGB 6/01/2000

start weight: 242

surgery: 212

7/16/2000: 192

goal: 125 LOL

self pay

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In a message dated 7/31/2000 12:13:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kleiny41@... writes:

<< I have also decided to

try to take a loan to self-pay if my insurance rejects me. Going into debt

seems a small price to pay for hope.

Thanks for listening.

in MD >>

Welcome , I too may have to self pay if insurance doesn't come through,

( T. bless her heart is trying to help me) either by taking a loan out

or trying to save, but I'm impatient and that will be hard. This is a

wonderful site and you will learn so much you won't believe it!!!!!!!!!

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

5' 0 "

216.5 Lbs.

BMI 42

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

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In a message dated 7/31/00 9:13:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

kleiny41@... writes:

<<

I accept the fact that my body does not work like a " skinny " person's body.

I have a never-ending compulsion to over-eat. I have begun to make contact

with post-ops and appreciate so much that I've already had 4 replies. Today

I will call my PCP to try to get a referral from her. I have also decided to

try to take a loan to self-pay if my insurance rejects me. Going into debt

seems a small price to pay for hope.

Thanks for listening.

in MD

>>

Good luck, and welcome to the fold! :0)

Regards,

Debbie in IL

Daughter MGB 8/9 Cigna (3rd appeal)--BMI 45

Counting on Cigna for Debbie (BMI 40) First request denied 7/21 :0(

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Your story sounds so familiar!

I tto did the phen phen and said I ll be on them forever, thank God I

had no problems! . I m 8 weeks post op and waiting for the adrenaline

(like the phen phen did)to kick in (I ve never had so little food

without pills) The surgery is a miracle! I have a brand new start

with a brand new me.It 's AMAZING TOO GO THRU A DAY AND NOT BE

OBSESSEd WITH FOOD AND WHERE MY NEXT MEAL IS COMING FROM.

If you need a contact try me at LHONOUR@ HTGINC.com(no space)---

Lori

5-31-00

45lbs

In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, " Kleinman " <kleiny41@h...>

wrote:

> Hi Everybody,

>

> I have been interested in the MGB since last May and have recently

begun

> reading the posts on this list. I am a 26 year-old female from

land,

> 5'4 " , 225 pounds (BMI 38) with several comorbids. When I first

discovered

> the procedure on-line and wrote to Dr. R, he sent a short reply

saying I

> " might " be a candidate, but he doubted my insurance would cover the

> procedure. I tend to agree that at present, they won't consider me

quite

> heavy enough although I have been heavier in the past and no doubt,

will be

> again.

>

> Like most of you, I have battled obesity my entire life. I

remember my

> mother (who is also obese) putting me on the Beverly Hills Diet at

age 7.

> This was the first of sooo many attempts to lose weight, look

" normal " , and

> feel like an acceptable member of society. My most recent failure

was with

> phen/fen which I took for 3 years and went from 245 to 145 pounds.

Before

> the fenfluramine was pulled from the market, I was already

resistant to it

> and re-gaining weight. At present, I am only 20 pounds less than

when I

> began my fight with phen/fen.

>

> I accept the fact that my body does not work like a " skinny "

person's body.

> I have a never-ending compulsion to over-eat. I have begun to make

contact

> with post-ops and appreciate so much that I've already had 4

replies. Today

> I will call my PCP to try to get a referral from her. I have also

decided to

> try to take a loan to self-pay if my insurance rejects me. Going

into debt

> seems a small price to pay for hope.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> in MD

>

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In a message dated 07/31/2000 12:13:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kleiny41@... writes:

<< Hi Everybody,

I have been interested in the MGB since last May and have recently begun

reading the posts on this list. I am a 26 year-old female from land,

5'4 " , 225 pounds (BMI 38) with several comorbids. When I first discovered

the procedure on-line and wrote to Dr. R, he sent a short reply saying I

" might " be a candidate, but he doubted my insurance would cover the

procedure. I tend to agree that at present, they won't consider me quite

heavy enough although I have been heavier in the past and no doubt, will be

again.

Like most of you, I have battled obesity my entire life. I remember my

mother (who is also obese) putting me on the Beverly Hills Diet at age 7.

This was the first of sooo many attempts to lose weight, look " normal " , and

feel like an acceptable member of society. My most recent failure was with

phen/fen which I took for 3 years and went from 245 to 145 pounds. Before

the fenfluramine was pulled from the market, I was already resistant to it

and re-gaining weight. At present, I am only 20 pounds less than when I

began my fight with phen/fen.

I accept the fact that my body does not work like a " skinny " person's body.

I have a never-ending compulsion to over-eat. I have begun to make contact

with post-ops and appreciate so much that I've already had 4 replies. Today

I will call my PCP to try to get a referral from her. I have also decided to

try to take a loan to self-pay if my insurance rejects me. Going into debt

seems a small price to pay for hope.

Thanks for listening.

in MD

________________________________ >>

,

Doesn't it feel good to be in a group of at least 700 people

who can totaly relate to you? You fight with all your might! it is well worth

it honey. I had to get a loan and I love evry minute of my new post op life!

I love to listen to you, thats what we are here for and we all have been

listened too. I am praying you can pull this together and win! good Luck and

keep us posted! Peace

Margie Vickers

South carolina

Post op 7/26

Self-Pay

Questions:

MCypher31@... or

(864)284-6060 :0)

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Welcome !!!

>

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>To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com

>Subject: Hi from in MD

>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:12:10 EDT

>

>Hi Everybody,

>

>I have been interested in the MGB since last May and have recently begun

>reading the posts on this list. I am a 26 year-old female from land,

>5'4 " , 225 pounds (BMI 38) with several comorbids. When I first discovered

>the procedure on-line and wrote to Dr. R, he sent a short reply saying I

> " might " be a candidate, but he doubted my insurance would cover the

>procedure. I tend to agree that at present, they won't consider me quite

>heavy enough although I have been heavier in the past and no doubt, will be

>again.

>

>Like most of you, I have battled obesity my entire life. I remember my

>mother (who is also obese) putting me on the Beverly Hills Diet at age 7.

>This was the first of sooo many attempts to lose weight, look " normal " , and

>feel like an acceptable member of society. My most recent failure was with

>phen/fen which I took for 3 years and went from 245 to 145 pounds. Before

>the fenfluramine was pulled from the market, I was already resistant to it

>and re-gaining weight. At present, I am only 20 pounds less than when I

>began my fight with phen/fen.

>

>I accept the fact that my body does not work like a " skinny " person's body.

>I have a never-ending compulsion to over-eat. I have begun to make contact

>with post-ops and appreciate so much that I've already had 4 replies.

>Today

>I will call my PCP to try to get a referral from her. I have also decided

>to

>try to take a loan to self-pay if my insurance rejects me. Going into debt

>seems a small price to pay for hope.

>

>Thanks for listening.

>

> in MD

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Hi ,

I wanted to tell you that when I started the process of trying to get

approved one year ago, that my BMI was around 38 also. I have so

many co-morbids that I had to seek out help and went to see a surgeon

who does the open RNY. I was denied twice due to not being " twice my

body weight " . I was, however, at least 100 pounds overweight and with

several co-morbids felt like this was my only hope to lose weight and

keep it off. I was on an upward spiral with my weight anyway, and I

PROMISE I DID NOT TRY TO GAIN WEIGHT, but I did gain an addition 28

pounds in a years time and re-applied with Dr. R for insurance

approval. Thanks to (an attorney who is post-op and reads this

list)I was approved today. My BMI now is a little over 40. Insurance

companies will approve people with a lower BMI. It just depends on

your insurance company and you co-morbids. If you have documentation

of your co-morbids, you may be able to get approval. It won't hurt to

try. At any rate, welcome to the list.

Stormy

-- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, MCypher31@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 07/31/2000 12:13:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> kleiny41@h... writes:

>

> << Hi Everybody,

>

> I have been interested in the MGB since last May and have recently

begun

> reading the posts on this list. I am a 26 year-old female from

land,

> 5'4 " , 225 pounds (BMI 38) with several comorbids. When I first

discovered

> the procedure on-line and wrote to Dr. R, he sent a short reply

saying I

> " might " be a candidate, but he doubted my insurance would cover

the

> procedure. I tend to agree that at present, they won't consider

me quite

> heavy enough although I have been heavier in the past and no

doubt, will be

> again.

>

> Like most of you, I have battled obesity my entire life. I

remember my

> mother (who is also obese) putting me on the Beverly Hills Diet at

age 7.

> This was the first of sooo many attempts to lose weight, look

" normal " , and

> feel like an acceptable member of society. My most recent failure

was with

> phen/fen which I took for 3 years and went from 245 to 145

pounds. Before

> the fenfluramine was pulled from the market, I was already

resistant to it

> and re-gaining weight. At present, I am only 20 pounds less than

when I

> began my fight with phen/fen.

>

> I accept the fact that my body does not work like a " skinny "

person's body.

> I have a never-ending compulsion to over-eat. I have begun to make

contact

> with post-ops and appreciate so much that I've already had 4

replies. Today

> I will call my PCP to try to get a referral from her. I have also

decided to

> try to take a loan to self-pay if my insurance rejects me. Going

into debt

> seems a small price to pay for hope.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> in MD

> ________________________________ >>

> ,

> Doesn't it feel good to be in a group of at least

700 people

> who can totaly relate to you? You fight with all your might! it is

well worth

> it honey. I had to get a loan and I love evry minute of my new

post op life!

> I love to listen to you, thats what we are here for and we all have

been

> listened too. I am praying you can pull this together and win! good

Luck and

> keep us posted! Peace

>

> Margie Vickers

>

> South carolina

>

> Post op 7/26

>

> Self-Pay

>

Questions:

> MCypher31@a... or

>

> (864)284-6060 :0)

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Hi ,

Just wanted to add my two cents and another vote of support for you.

I, too, had a BMI of 38 preop with comorbidity (diabetes,

dyslipidemia, etc.) along with a severe family history of

cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and premature death (pretty much

all of it obesity related). Anyway, I expected to be initially

denied by CIGNA and . . . of course, I was. However, though I took

out a loan for surgery so as not to put my life on hold, I was

determined to fight CIGNA for what I truly believed was my right to

have this surgery and their duty to pay. Anyway, I won on my first

appeal (a very detailed, factual, well-researched appeal ;) if I do

say so myself!). So, as the others have told you, even if you

proceed with self-pay, don't just let your insurance company off the

hook. It's exactly what they want. They put a lot of barriers in

our path to make us stumble in the hopes that we'll give up and walk

away. Don't let them get away with that. Even in the worst of

circumstances (if you were to lose at all appeals), in the end, you

will have benefitted the WLS/MGB cause by being a thorn in the

insurance industry's behind -- letting them know that we are here and

we aren't going away without a fight.

Best of luck to you. If I can help in any way, let me know.

Continue to take advantage of the knowledge and support on this list

and I have no doubt that you'll prevail in the end.

Kris

MGB 6/7/00

-41# from preop

-73# overall

> Hi Everybody,

>

> I have been interested in the MGB since last May and have recently

begun

> reading the posts on this list. I am a 26 year-old female from

land,

> 5'4 " , 225 pounds (BMI 38) with several comorbids. When I first

discovered

> the procedure on-line and wrote to Dr. R, he sent a short reply

saying I

> " might " be a candidate, but he doubted my insurance would cover the

> procedure. I tend to agree that at present, they won't consider me

quite

> heavy enough although I have been heavier in the past and no doubt,

will be

> again.

> Thanks for listening.

>

> in MD

>

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