Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 1) Rotisserie chicken from a restaurant (say Swiss Chalet in Canada). Only the chicken with the skin. 2) Whey protein powder that contain 0% lactose for a post workout protein shake. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 some of the protiens in whey can be difficult to digest to so in terms of scd, whey is always going to be illegal i do take plain whey myself so its a question of balancing the needed growth factors in it against its fermenting effect but its right on the edge of my coping with and i have to take anti yeasts like candex occasionally cause of it muscle is metabolically expensive so you don't want to deliberately promote its growth some of the herbs and spices used on chicken skins for rotissiere don't react well with being semi burnt and seem to get toxic, but generally rotissiere chicken is legal > > 1) Rotisserie chicken from a restaurant (say Swiss Chalet in Canada). > Only the chicken with the skin. > > 2) Whey protein powder that contain 0% lactose for a post workout > protein shake. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 It's hard to know what the chicken might have been basted with.... spices or whatever... that *could* have starches or sugars. You'd have to ask them to give you whatever is added to the chicken... possibly injected tenderizing/seasoning agents... or basting solutions... in writing. I don't believe whey of any kind is legal. I would check Elaine Gottschall's website, www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and plug that into the " Knowledge Base " search. Patti, mom to Katera Are these 2 foods legal? 1) Rotisserie chicken from a restaurant (say Swiss Chalet in Canada). Only the chicken with the skin. 2) Whey protein powder that contain 0% lactose for a post workout protein shake. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I agree with Patti. I haven't been to Canada, but here in the US, a good deal of Rotisserie chickens have another ingredient in their spice mixtures....MSG. Those spice mixtures that also contain commercial paprika and chili powder contain unsafe levels of ethoxyquin, imo. Summer Patti wrote: It's hard to know what the chicken might have been basted with.... spices or whatever... that *could* have starches or sugars. You'd have to ask them to give you whatever is added to the chicken... possibly injected tenderizing/seasoning agents... or basting solutions... in writing. I don't believe whey of any kind is legal. I would check Elaine Gottschall's website, www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and plug that into the " Knowledge Base " search. Patti, mom to Katera Are these 2 foods legal? 1) Rotisserie chicken from a restaurant (say Swiss Chalet in Canada). Only the chicken with the skin. 2) Whey protein powder that contain 0% lactose for a post workout protein shake. Thanks. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hey (and all): Don't we need to worry about what the places that make rotissiere chicken might MARINATE the chicken in? Or is rotissiere chicken routinely not marinated before cooking? Also, that semi toxic burn spice thing is scary. Does that mean its ok or not? My personal take is that I avoid all restaurants/prepared foods for my son, but I am always drawn to the yummy smells and sights of those Costco rotissiere chickens and sigh when I think how nice and easy it'd be to be able to grab one for the family dinner! Tracey, mom of Clay, 4, ASD SCD 8/05 Re: Are these 2 foods legal? some of the protiens in whey can be difficult to digest to so in terms of scd, whey is always going to be illegal i do take plain whey myself so its a question of balancing the needed growth factors in it against its fermenting effect but its right on the edge of my coping with and i have to take anti yeasts like candex occasionally cause of it muscle is metabolically expensive so you don't want to deliberately promote its growth some of the herbs and spices used on chicken skins for rotissiere don't react well with being semi burnt and seem to get toxic, but generally rotissiere chicken is legal > > 1) Rotisserie chicken from a restaurant (say Swiss Chalet in Canada). > Only the chicken with the skin. > > 2) Whey protein powder that contain 0% lactose for a post workout > protein shake. > > Thanks. > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 well those supermarket cooked chickens have always had a bad effect for me, they are highly spiced on the skins before cooking and cooked in an enclosed air space the thing is any crisping of a food surface is a huge chemcial reaction and its very hard to know what is happening except its bad which is why i think that the scd empahsis on carrot crisps etc is a mistake there is a rotissiere chicken outlet which specialises in chickens roasted over charcoal beds with good ventilation in australia and if i don't eat the skins that may be ok yeah takes a few years to be able to walk away from those yummy smells as a sure sign of trouble > > Hey (and all): > Don't we need to worry about what the places that make rotissiere chicken might MARINATE the chicken in? Or is rotissiere chicken routinely not marinated before cooking? > Also, that semi toxic burn spice thing is scary. Does that mean its ok or not? > My personal take is that I avoid all restaurants/prepared foods for my son, but I am always drawn to the yummy smells and sights of those Costco rotissiere chickens and sigh when I think how nice and easy it'd be to be able to grab one for the family dinner! > > Tracey, mom of Clay, 4, ASD SCD 8/05 > Re: Are these 2 foods legal? > > > some of the protiens in whey can be difficult to digest to so in > terms of scd, whey is always going to be illegal > > i do take plain whey myself so its a question of balancing the needed > growth factors in it against its fermenting effect but its right on > the edge of my coping with and i have to take anti yeasts like candex > occasionally cause of it > > muscle is metabolically expensive so you don't want to deliberately > promote its growth > > some of the herbs and spices used on chicken skins for rotissiere > don't react well with being semi burnt and seem to get toxic, but > generally rotissiere chicken is legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 yeah ethoxyquin is really toxic and pet foods are full of it and its also fed to cattle and chickens in thier feed as an antioxidant with vitamin a beadlets, the livers from these animals will have too high levels in and maybe even the meat > > I agree with Patti. I haven't been to Canada, but here in the US, a good deal of Rotisserie chickens have another ingredient in their spice mixtures....MSG. > > Those spice mixtures that also contain commercial paprika and chili powder contain unsafe levels of ethoxyquin, imo. > > Summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 <<I am always drawn to the yummy smells and sights of those Costco rotissiere chickens and sigh when I think how nice and easy it'd be to be able to grab one for the family dinner!>> I know how wonderful it would be to pick up one of these chickens.... but I made the mistake of reading the ingredient list on the package one day and it was darn depressing! Sugars! Hydrolyzed yeast protein (read: MSG!)... YIKES! Why do all those icky additives have to smell and taste so yummy? So sad!!! They place them in the most strategic location in the supermarkets.... a virtual siren song for tired moms who don't know what the heck dinner is going to be that night. I found an easy way to get *almost* the same level of ease and convenience, though. I buy plain old whole chickens when they're on sale.... and stuff my freezer full. When I want a really easy dinner... all I have to do is think ahead a couple of days so I can get one thawed completely.... then, first thing in the morning, I get out my trusty crockpot, rub the inside with a tidge of olive oil and place the whole, plain, additive-free chicken inside (washed thoroughly and patted dry). I chuck a quartered onion, two bay leaves (or a sprig of fresh rosemary), some fresh ground pepper, and a couple of cloves of garlic in the cavity.... and just leave it to cook away all day long on low (I set it on " high " for the first hour, then turn it down). I don't add ANY liquid, just the chicken. It may not have that lovely, roasted, golden finish on the outside when it's done but the meat is SO tender and juicy that it melts in your mouth! And you end up with quite a nice amount of broth surrounding it, too.... that I pour off and into my soup pot. If there's enough room, I add baby carrots or little bitty cauliflower florettes in the last hour and a half..... and voila! Dinner is DONE! And enough yummy, moist chicken to last for the next day's lunch and dinner for my small family. Never disappointing! Patti, mom to Katera Re: Re: Are these 2 foods legal? Hey (and all): Don't we need to worry about what the places that make rotissiere chicken might MARINATE the chicken in? Or is rotissiere chicken routinely not marinated before cooking? Also, that semi toxic burn spice thing is scary. Does that mean its ok or not? My personal take is that I avoid all restaurants/prepared foods for my son, but I am always drawn to the yummy smells and sights of those Costco rotissiere chickens and sigh when I think how nice and easy it'd be to be able to grab one for the family dinner! Tracey, mom of Clay, 4, ASD SCD 8/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi Patti. Thanks for the mouth-watering crockpot chicken cooking lesson. I knew those Costco chickens were too good to be true. That's why I'd never have tried one for my son, Clay. I'm sure lots of listmates are getting out their crockpots right now and having chicken tonight! Oh speaking of my son, Clay. Today, I changed my email address for the purpose of pecanbread. I am the same Tracey from Long Island, NY who recently started posting on occasion after lurking for a few months, under Adam and Tracey Minella/or adamtra@..., but there were so many posts for pecanbread that it was hard to find non-pecanbread posts among them! So to keep our " regular " email address open for non SCD site postings, I am now " lovemyboyclay " thru the yahoo group, incase anyone is wondering. Of course, anyone who wants to contact me off list can feel free to use the above address anyway. Have a good day all. Patti wrote: <<I am always drawn to the yummy smells and sights of those Costco rotissiere chickens and sigh when I think how nice and easy it'd be to be able to grab one for the family dinner!>> I know how wonderful it would be to pick up one of these chickens.... but I made the mistake of reading the ingredient list on the package one day and it was darn depressing! Sugars! Hydrolyzed yeast protein (read: MSG!)... YIKES! Why do all those icky additives have to smell and taste so yummy? So sad!!! They place them in the most strategic location in the supermarkets.... a virtual siren song for tired moms who don't know what the heck dinner is going to be that night. I found an easy way to get *almost* the same level of ease and convenience, though. I buy plain old whole chickens when they're on sale.... and stuff my freezer full. When I want a really easy dinner... all I have to do is think ahead a couple of days so I can get one thawed completely.... then, first thing in the morning, I get out my trusty crockpot, rub the inside with a tidge of olive oil and place the whole, plain, additive-free chicken inside (washed thoroughly and patted dry). I chuck a quartered onion, two bay leaves (or a sprig of fresh rosemary), some fresh ground pepper, and a couple of cloves of garlic in the cavity.... and just leave it to cook away all day long on low (I set it on " high " for the first hour, then turn it down). I don't add ANY liquid, just the chicken. It may not have that lovely, roasted, golden finish on the outside when it's done but the meat is SO tender and juicy that it melts in your mouth! And you end up with quite a nice amount of broth surrounding it, too.... that I pour off and into my soup pot. If there's enough room, I add baby carrots or little bitty cauliflower florettes in the last hour and a half..... and voila! Dinner is DONE! And enough yummy, moist chicken to last for the next day's lunch and dinner for my small family. Never disappointing! Patti, mom to Katera Re: Re: Are these 2 foods legal? Hey (and all): Don't we need to worry about what the places that make rotissiere chicken might MARINATE the chicken in? Or is rotissiere chicken routinely not marinated before cooking? Also, that semi toxic burn spice thing is scary. Does that mean its ok or not? My personal take is that I avoid all restaurants/prepared foods for my son, but I am always drawn to the yummy smells and sights of those Costco rotissiere chickens and sigh when I think how nice and easy it'd be to be able to grab one for the family dinner! Tracey, mom of Clay, 4, ASD SCD 8/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Patti, That sounds like a yummy way to fix chicken! I have a rotisserie cooker that I got for Christmas one year (also doubles as a toaster oven). Makes a rotisserie chicken just like the store- all golden brown outside- tender and juicy inside! It was originally purchased at Walmart and fairly reasonable. Speaking of Walmart, my m-in-law checked with the deli manager there once about their rotisserie chicken and found there was gluten in it. So that makes it out for celiacs anyone even if not loaded in other bad stuff people mentioned. Janet, mom to Cody- 5 yrs old- SCD since 4-17-06- starting over with intro TODAY! > I found an easy way to get *almost* the same level of ease and convenience, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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