RE: The troll behavior needs to stop.

[Guest guest]

I agree that the Maderators need to bring this to a halt. I am not

going to another board. I do get very tired of the bickering. I

feel that everyone should have the right to express their experience

with out major conflict. If there is something that has not worked

you should be able to express that. If something works for you

express that. We are individual and God made us that way. Why can

we not accept others as they are and go on. You don't HAVE to do as

they do.

I have to admit that I get tired of the statement 'with fanatical

adherance'. I think pretty much everyone on this list follows the

diet that way if they can. It is like you are insinuating that if I

am having problems I am not following the diet legal and illegal

list.

On the other side, Antoinette, your testimony of bipolar has really

been an encouragement to me.

I would love to be able to read the post on this board without all

the anger and attack in them. I don't feel that it is just one

person that is doing it.

I also feel that it was ok for you gals to invite listmate to you

new board but it isn't ok to keep egging people to move over there.

I for one can not keep up with several boards. I am active with 2

and that is about my limit.

Be blessed with peace.

Sandy M.

>

> Dear Moderators of Pecan Bread, and To all It may concern,

>

>

> Kerri Swaner and P have to stop harassing me and saying

> hateful things to me now. THIS TIME I have not participated in

this

> bully behavior nor do I plan to start. I wait for you guys to

take

> action and to protect mom's like me from this type of attack. In

> the opinion of those I have talked to about their behavior towards

> me, THIS IS TROLL BEHAVIOR and thy may NEED KICKED OFF Pecan

Bread.

> So that those of us that want to impliment the SCD diet can in

> peace.

>

> I now know that Kerry and are the moderators to their new

list

> serve 'Open Blooms " ....why doesn't someone tell them to leave

mom's

> like me alone. I am truly getting tired of the way they talk down

> to me and are always trying to bully me into a fight.

>

> THIS IS ridiculous that I can't feel safe at Pecan Bread. Just

> because we are having success with only implementing the SCDiet

does

> not mean that I need scrutinized and talked down to all the time

by

> them. This is hurting the new comer and Pecan Breads credibility

> not just mine.

>

> I hope prompt action is done or you guys will loose me and my

> families testimony that I already know has helped many. I recieve

> personal e-mails to up to ten a day offering BTVC success and how

to

> do this a day.

>

> Plus Pecan Bread is beginning to loose their reputation. Two

mom's

> that I referred to you guys won't even stick around because of all

> this argument over SCD not working the way Elaine said it would.

>

> Kerri and are convincing others that it takes MUCH MUCH MORE

> THAN JUST SCD. This is dangerous advice for some of us and

confuses

> the new comer and could keep our kids sick.

>

> Remember, that I am writing a testimony, the first half is already

> copy right. Many could be helped by this story...and it will not

> lie about what happened in our journey back to health.

>

> Thank you, Antoinette

>

[Guest guest]

That is it, I am signing off now, no need to be kicked, but before I do, let

me clarify some remarks made below, I can handle alot of things but now

straight out lies, please read my caps below, This list is supposed to be

about helping each other, honestly it now has wasted too much of my time. I

once again invite others to join Open blooms if you would like to discuss

issues important to healing and now witness a daily soap opera.

please read my caps below

>

>

>Dear Moderators of Pecan Bread, and To all It may concern,

>

>

>Kerri Swaner and P have to stop harassing me and saying

>hateful things to me now. THIS TIME I have not participated in this

>bully behavior nor do I plan to start.

A) I HAVE NOT ATTACKED YOU, IN FACT IT WOULD BE YOU WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO

SEND ME THREATHENING EMAILS OFF LIST, OF WHICH I HAVE NEVER WASTED MY TIME

TO RESPOND

>

>I now know that Kerry and are the moderators to their new list

>serve 'Open Blooms " ....why doesn't someone tell them to leave mom's

>like me alone. I am truly getting tired of the way they talk down

>to me and are always trying to bully me into a fight.

A) ALTHOUGH KERRI IS A WONDERFUL PERSON SHE IS NOT A MODERATOR ON OPEN

BLOOMS, THE CORRECT ANSWER WOULD BE THAT SUMMER AND MYSELF ARE THE

MODERATORS

ONCE AGAIN I HAVE NOT ATTACKED YOU OR OTHER MOMS, I DO NOT RESPOND TO

YOUR OFF LIST EMAILS, I DO NOT RESPOND TO YOU ON-LIST EMAILS, UNLESS THEY

SAY SOMETHING ABOUT ME THAT IS UNTRUE AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED OR CLARIFIED

>

>THIS IS ridiculous that I can't feel safe at Pecan Bread. Just

>because we are having success with only implementing the SCDiet does

>not mean that I need scrutinized and talked down to all the time by

>them. This is hurting the new comer and Pecan Breads credibility

>not just mine.

A) HERE IS ONE POINT YOU ARE CORRECT THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I AM HAPPY FOR

SUCCESS AND ONCE AGAIN HAVE NOT ADDRESSED YOU OR YOUR EMAILS UNLESS THEY

HAVE HAD FALSE INFORMATION. I DO NOT SCRUTINIZE YOU AND ONLY WORRY ABOUT

YOUR ACTIONS, THERE AFFECT ON YOUR FAMILY AND ON OTHERS ON THIS LIST

>

>I hope prompt action is done or you guys will loose me and my

>families testimony that I already know has helped many. I recieve

>personal e-mails to up to ten a day offering BTVC success and how to

>do this a day.

>

>Plus Pecan Bread is beginning to loose their reputation. Two mom's

>that I referred to you guys won't even stick around because of all

>this argument over SCD not working the way Elaine said it would.

IN FACT IT SEEMS THE CONTRARY IS TRUE, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE RECENTLY LEFT

BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE 'DRAMA', BUT I REGRESS

>

>Kerri and are convincing others that it takes MUCH MUCH MORE

>THAN JUST SCD. This is dangerous advice for some of us and confuses

>the new comer and could keep our kids sick.

I HAVE NEVER SAID TO ANYONE THAT IT TAKES MUCH MORE THAN SCD TO HEAL, I AM

HAPPY FOR YOU THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE HAD SUCH SUCCESS, UNFORTUNATLY

MANY NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. THERE ARE MANY, MYSELF INCLUDED THAT WOULD

LIKE TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED ADDITIONAL THERAPIES IN ADDITION TO SCD. I

FEEL THAT THIS IS MUCH BETTER THAN TO JUST LET THE, IN YOUR WORDS 'GET RUN

OVER BY A TRUCK' BUT PERHAPS YOU DISAGREE

>

>Remember, that I am writing a testimony, the first half is already

>copy right. Many could be helped by this story...and it will not

>lie about what happened in our journey back to health.

THANKS YOU, ANYONE INTERESTED MAY CONTACT ME OFF LIST OR JOIN MY NEW LIST, I

WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, GOOD BYE

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[Guest guest]

Okaaaay then....I think I will get off this list now. I need the extra time

now anyway and things are going well here. Speaking as a psychologist though

I think that Antoinette does what we call splitting. People are either all

good or all bad. Summer was all good because she offered so much help on and

off list and by phone to Antoinette. But then something Summer said didn't

work for Antoinette and Summer became all bad. I became all bad because I

suggested that she post her " fanatical adherance/no enzyme " lecture to once

a week so people didn't get sick of hearing it and/or feel constantly

berated. Not sure what made " all bad " but Im sure it was minor. Truth

is we are all a little good and a little bad and our advice is good and

bad...it's called being human. I think Antoinette has a need for herself to

be all good-being an all good mentor/teacher to others and she can't handle

any feedback that challenges that. There is a lot of paranoia too but I

won't even go there. Through this experience with my own daughter and

" observing " Antoinette and hearing other stories I see the psychology field

very differently now....the gut really does effect our mental health.

I think the moderators need to really watch people like this....it can make

a really great list really bad.

No need to respond to me....I'm going off the list now.

Kerri

RE: The troll behavior needs to stop.

> That is it, I am signing off now, no need to be kicked, but before I do,

> let

> me clarify some remarks made below, I can handle alot of things but now

> straight out lies, please read my caps below, This list is supposed to be

> about helping each other, honestly it now has wasted too much of my time.

> I

> once again invite others to join Open blooms if you would like to discuss

> issues important to healing and now witness a daily soap opera.

>

> please read my caps below

>

>>

>>

>>Dear Moderators of Pecan Bread, and To all It may concern,

>>

>>

>>Kerri Swaner and P have to stop harassing me and saying

>>hateful things to me now. THIS TIME I have not participated in this

>>bully behavior nor do I plan to start.

>

> A) I HAVE NOT ATTACKED YOU, IN FACT IT WOULD BE YOU WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO

> SEND ME THREATHENING EMAILS OFF LIST, OF WHICH I HAVE NEVER WASTED MY TIME

> TO RESPOND

>

>>

>>I now know that Kerry and are the moderators to their new list

>>serve 'Open Blooms " ....why doesn't someone tell them to leave mom's

>>like me alone. I am truly getting tired of the way they talk down

>>to me and are always trying to bully me into a fight.

>

>

> A) ALTHOUGH KERRI IS A WONDERFUL PERSON SHE IS NOT A MODERATOR ON OPEN

> BLOOMS, THE CORRECT ANSWER WOULD BE THAT SUMMER AND MYSELF ARE THE

> MODERATORS

> ONCE AGAIN I HAVE NOT ATTACKED YOU OR OTHER MOMS, I DO NOT RESPOND TO

> YOUR OFF LIST EMAILS, I DO NOT RESPOND TO YOU ON-LIST EMAILS, UNLESS THEY

> SAY SOMETHING ABOUT ME THAT IS UNTRUE AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED OR

> CLARIFIED

>>

>>THIS IS ridiculous that I can't feel safe at Pecan Bread. Just

>>because we are having success with only implementing the SCDiet does

>>not mean that I need scrutinized and talked down to all the time by

>>them. This is hurting the new comer and Pecan Breads credibility

>>not just mine.

>

> A) HERE IS ONE POINT YOU ARE CORRECT THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I AM HAPPY FOR

> SUCCESS AND ONCE AGAIN HAVE NOT ADDRESSED YOU OR YOUR EMAILS UNLESS THEY

> HAVE HAD FALSE INFORMATION. I DO NOT SCRUTINIZE YOU AND ONLY WORRY ABOUT

> YOUR ACTIONS, THERE AFFECT ON YOUR FAMILY AND ON OTHERS ON THIS LIST

>>

>>I hope prompt action is done or you guys will loose me and my

>>families testimony that I already know has helped many. I recieve

>>personal e-mails to up to ten a day offering BTVC success and how to

>>do this a day.

>>

>>Plus Pecan Bread is beginning to loose their reputation. Two mom's

>>that I referred to you guys won't even stick around because of all

>>this argument over SCD not working the way Elaine said it would.

>

> IN FACT IT SEEMS THE CONTRARY IS TRUE, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE RECENTLY LEFT

> BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE 'DRAMA', BUT I REGRESS

>>

>>Kerri and are convincing others that it takes MUCH MUCH MORE

>>THAN JUST SCD. This is dangerous advice for some of us and confuses

>>the new comer and could keep our kids sick.

>

> I HAVE NEVER SAID TO ANYONE THAT IT TAKES MUCH MORE THAN SCD TO HEAL, I AM

> HAPPY FOR YOU THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE HAD SUCH SUCCESS, UNFORTUNATLY

> MANY NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. THERE ARE MANY, MYSELF INCLUDED THAT WOULD

> LIKE TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED ADDITIONAL THERAPIES IN ADDITION TO SCD. I

> FEEL THAT THIS IS MUCH BETTER THAN TO JUST LET THE, IN YOUR WORDS 'GET RUN

> OVER BY A TRUCK' BUT PERHAPS YOU DISAGREE

>>

>>Remember, that I am writing a testimony, the first half is already

>>copy right. Many could be helped by this story...and it will not

>>lie about what happened in our journey back to health.

>

> THANKS YOU, ANYONE INTERESTED MAY CONTACT ME OFF LIST OR JOIN MY NEW LIST,

> I

> WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, GOOD BYE

>

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>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>