Re: Advice for a family of beginners

[Guest guest]

Anybody new or old to SCD should get the SCD book 'Gut and Psychology Syndrome'

by Natasha -McBride, MD.

It's a must read written by an MD mother who used SCD with customiztion to

recover her son.

You can get it at the Body Ecology website.

Agape,

MONICA GRECO wrote:

Dear list,

I am the parent of two children, neither of whom have a diagnosis for ASD or

digestive condition. I came to SCD via my 2-year old daughter, who has been a

cause for concern for us due to 'failure to thrive' and who has been under

observation by a team of gastroenterologists since she was 1 (all tests have

come up normal, and the doctors only want to watch her weight). My 6-year old

son is an 'atopic' child (tendency to asthma and allergies). Neither of the

children presents with any obvious digestive or behavioural symptoms.

We were advised to go on the SCD (by a private consultant nutritionist), and

we are quite happy do to so as a family, since we believe in the rationale

behind the diet and in its general benefits. However, in the absence of obvious

symptoms (and thus of any obvious bettering or worsening), we are finding it

difficult to decide when/how to proceed through the various stages of the diet.

For example: is it absolutely necessary to exclude legal cheese at the

beginning, and if so for how long? We have been on the diet for about 4 weeks

now, feeling generally good. I don't anticipate we would notice anything

getting 'worse' if we introduced cheese now, although it is much earlier than

generally recommended. Is there any reason why we shouldn't?

Many thanks,

[Guest guest]

,

I know that the GAPS diet has many similarities to SCD, but I have to ask you

not to keep posting this recommendation to everyone. There are differences...

and Dr. -McBride recommends some supplements and other foods that are

NOT legal on SCD. This is an SCD list.... and I think Jody made it pretty clear

that we are to stick to the topic of SCD here from now on. I'm afraid SCD

beginners will be misled into thinking GAPS is part of SCD.... when it really

isn't.

thanks,

Patti... acting moderator in Jody's absence

Re: Advice for a family of beginners

Anybody new or old to SCD should get the SCD book 'Gut and Psychology

Syndrome'

by Natasha -McBride, MD.

It's a must read written by an MD mother who used SCD with customiztion to

recover her son.

You can get it at the Body Ecology website.

Agape,

[Guest guest]

,

It is harder to know how quickly to proceed when there are no obvious gut or

behavioral symptoms. Did you start with the intro diet for a couple of days?

I would think you could go ahead with legal cheese.... but start with a small

amount. I would always go slow with any new food. It's most important to just

keep everything easy to digest... hence the peeling and cooking of fruits and

veggies.

It's interesting when there are no " obvious " symptoms, as you say. Of course,

that doesn't mean that there isn't some gut damage of imbalance of gut flora

down there. I know some families who have started SCD with no GI symptoms...

only to have them occur (temporarily) after beginning the diet... as if there

was a great " clearing out " of toxins and pathogens that no-one realised were an

issue, causing malabsorbtion of nutrients, etc.

Since your son has allergies, etc.... maybe that is just how his body manifests

the malabsorbtion and imbalances. Anyway, proceeding slowly, making all foods

easy to digest and keeping out all illegals.... and just being persistant and

focused, not in too big a hurry to get back to " normal " food... that's my best

advice.

Keep it simple and maybe keep a journal of everything you see in your kids....

skin, respiratory, allergy stuff, behavior, night waking, cravings, etc, etc...

every little thing. You might see a pattern over time.

Patti

Advice for a family of beginners

Dear list,

I am the parent of two children, neither of whom have a diagnosis for ASD

or digestive condition. I came to SCD via my 2-year old daughter, who has been

a cause for concern for us due to 'failure to thrive' and who has been under

observation by a team of gastroenterologists since she was 1 (all tests have

come up normal, and the doctors only want to watch her weight). My 6-year old

son is an 'atopic' child (tendency to asthma and allergies). Neither of the

children presents with any obvious digestive or behavioural symptoms.

We were advised to go on the SCD (by a private consultant nutritionist),

and we are quite happy do to so as a family, since we believe in the rationale

behind the diet and in its general benefits. However, in the absence of obvious

symptoms (and thus of any obvious bettering or worsening), we are finding it

difficult to decide when/how to proceed through the various stages of the diet.

For example: is it absolutely necessary to exclude legal cheese at the

beginning, and if so for how long? We have been on the diet for about 4 weeks

now, feeling generally good. I don't anticipate we would notice anything

getting 'worse' if we introduced cheese now, although it is much earlier than

generally recommended. Is there any reason why we shouldn't?

Many thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Patti.

I suspected there would be no 'easy' answers, but it helps nonetheless

to hear it confirmed. Our difficulties are very small in comparison

with those routinely confronted by families where one or more members

suffer severe symptoms. In the absence of obvious symptoms, one of the

main problems is social: it is very difficult for others to see the

point of what you are doing, and we are often challenged. School don't

take us too seriously, because we don't have a diagnosis. Self-doubt

easily sneaks in. This makes the support offered by this list all the

more important, as a kind of reality-check. I will definitely take up

the journal suggestion, and who knows, changes may well become visible

then. Thank you!

-- In pecanbread , " Patti " wrote:

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> It is harder to know how quickly to proceed when there are no

obvious gut or behavioral symptoms. Did you start with the intro diet

for a couple of days?

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[Guest guest]

Hey Patti,

The GAPS book is an SCD book... I hope more will write SCD books. Have you

read it?...she writes of Dr. Haas' foundation and how Elaine continued it.

Just like Pecanbread is not an 'official' SCD website because it customizes

SCD for ASD population ... the GAPS book also customizes for ASD( gut +

behavior/emotional/cogntive) population, but it definitely is SCD based .

Should it go under OT?

Thanks for the email.

Agape,

Patti wrote:

,

I know that the GAPS diet has many similarities to SCD, but I have to ask you

not to keep posting this recommendation to everyone. There are differences...

and Dr. -McBride recommends some supplements and other foods that are

NOT legal on SCD. This is an SCD list.... and I think Jody made it pretty clear

that we are to stick to the topic of SCD here from now on. I'm afraid SCD

beginners will be misled into thinking GAPS is part of SCD.... when it really

isn't.

thanks,

Patti... acting moderator in Jody's absence

Re: Advice for a family of beginners

Anybody new or old to SCD should get the SCD book 'Gut and Psychology

Syndrome'

by Natasha -McBride, MD.

It's a must read written by an MD mother who used SCD with customiztion to

recover her son.

You can get it at the Body Ecology website.

Agape,

[Guest guest]

GAPS book recommends SCD, but she also recommends things that Elaine disapproved

of. So caution please everyone. Read your BTVC book first to see where the

changes occur and then question everything first before trusting it. The SCD TM

diet doesn't work that well when we change even small things like the

probiotics. It looses it's integrity.

Hope this helps to clarify things for the new comer,

Antoinette (celiac 02/06 healing when no other way worked and we tried)

[Guest guest]

,

You said:

<<one of the main problems is social: it is very difficult for others to see the

point of what you are doing, and we are often challenged.>>

<<School don't take us too seriously, because we don't have a diagnosis. >>

Sometimes it's easier just to announce to everyone.... relatives, school,

etc.... that the child has some " allergies " or " food sensitivities " , and

therefore must only eat food that you prepare and send with him/her.

Leave it at that.... don't try to explain in detail. Sometimes less is more,

when it comes to info. You don't have to convince or convert all these people.

Let the results speak for themselves.

<<Self-doubt easily sneaks in.>>

Oh, boy.... you said it. I wish I had a t-shirt that just had that sentence on

the front.

Stay strong.... listen to your heart!

<<I will definitely take up the journal suggestion, and who knows, changes may

well become visible then. Thank you!>>

I love journaling..... and be sure to let yourself vent your frustrations and

self-doubts onto those pages, too. Great keepsake for later.... you'll see how

far YOU'VE come, too.

Patti