Re: Fw: Yeast/carb wisdom from Elaine

[Guest guest]

I would really like it if someone told me how many carbs I need per day. My

only carb (SCD legal) that I can tolerate is carrot juice. So to start the

intro diet, how much of the juice should I drink per day? I am 5 foot 3 and

weight 110 pounds.

Do you think an intro diet consisting of meat, eggs, and carrot juice is

appropriate? I plan to ask my doctor tomorrow, who is very much in support

of and recommends SCD. But I wanted to get experience SCDer's opinions too.

:-)

Thanks,

~

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: <pecanbread >

>Subject: Fw: Yeast/carb wisdom from Elaine

>Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:48:17 -0700

>

> Yeast/carb wisdom from Elaine

>

>Carbohydrate Content - Points to Consider

>(Caution against Modifying the SCD to a diet with insufficient

>carbohydrates)

>By Elaine Gottschall

>

>Great attention had been paid by both Dr. Sidney Valentine Haas, the

>pediatrician who developed the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, as well as the

>author, to include foods that would comprise a well balanced, healthful,

>therapeutic diet. One of the most important considerations relates to the

>state of malnutrition existing in many of the children and adults who begin

>the Specific Carbohydrate Diet commitment.

>

>Malnutrition can be the result of chronic intestinal problems which prevent

>the absorption of nutrients (vitamins, minerals, calories of protein, fat,

>and carbohydrates) as well as unbalanced diets containing an overload of

>carbohydrates to which many have become addicted. These infants and

>children (and some adults), not adapted to a diet higher in protein than

>previously ingested, do not do well unless there is sufficient carbohydrate

>in the new diet (SCD) to which they are being introduced. It is recommended

>by several authors that by including the allowed carbohydrates, the protein

>intake will be increased more slowly after periods of malnutrition

>(Goodhart and Shils, Fifth Ed. pgs 57-58). That is the reason that even the

>introductory diet contains diluted fruit juices, carrots and honey. After

>the introductory diet, there is a wide variety of baked goods, vegetables,

>and fruits providing a sensible carbohydrate intake along with protein and

>fat.

>

> Cutler Ph.D. has commented on the introduction of the Specific

>Carbohydrate Diet without sufficient carbohydrates as follows:

>

>Many of these children have underperforming adrenal glands. People with

>inadequate adrenal function cannot make their Own blood sugar from other

>things and must have some Carbohydrate in their diet, not a lot, but they

>do poorly on an Atkins or keto diet.

>Many parents who do the SCD avoid fruit due to its supposed Relation to

>yeast. Then their picky eaters will not touch the Squashes and other

>vegetables that are the few remaining

>Carbohydrate sources on the SCD. Honey is permissible but Many will not use

>it for their children or the children do not Like it. (You may wish to try

>a variety of different honeys;

>They can taste quite a bit different depending on what flowers the Bees

>have visited.

>The children accidentally or purposefully end up on the SCD + low Low

>carbohydrate diet, not just SCD.

>

>The question may be asked: how much carbohydrate should the child ingest.

>The author advises that the fruits, vegetables, honey, baked goods and,

>eventually, some cooked legumes be tried out gradually. Usually as the

>child or adult improves, these legal carbohydrates can be used freely with

>the other allowed additional foods.

>

>

>****************

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elaine explains in her book how to eat so that we are balanced. Reread Chapter

9 and 10. God knows I have had to reread it a few times. lol! My book is

looking it too. Protein is naturally higher in the SCDiet...and this is not to

worry. Elaine says that it imitates the " original diet of mankind " and that it

is very very well balanced when one eats well rounded and in the way she

explains in her book.

My daughter and I, had to do the intro " like " for 10 days....so sick couldn't

tolerate much else. We lived on eggs (cooked in every way), chicken soups, beef

soups, fruit sauces, bananas, and avocados....the yogurt was the most important,

because it caused a wonderful die off...we ate it in the morning when acid

production was low in the stomach so that the good probiotics would have a

better chance...but anytime is a good time for SCD yogurt . Elaine says said

that 1 to 2 cups of yogurt is fine/day for adult. Again though, you may want to

go slower if you are new....because it does cause a die off reaction in some of

us. This can make one feel mighty miserable for a while. We choose to jump in,

my daughter was so thin I didn't want to waste time breaking the vicious

cycle...but die off was not fun...after her first die off she smiled for the

first time, her delirium seizures vanished...and started talking! We knew that

we where doing something right then.

Oh, too much carrot juice will turn you orange...lol! Not joking. Try to vary

your choices if you can. Unless it causes anaphylaxis Elaine tells us we can

eat it....anything allowed on the diet will kill off the yeast. It just takes

time.

God Bless, Antoinette and KiKi (2/06 celiac/ASD)

[Guest guest]

Oh, I know about carrot juice turning you orange! I was orange for about

three months because of it. Before I was diagnosed with celiac (didn't know

what was wrong and was bedridden), the carrot juice was ALL I could keep

down. And yes, I got very orange, especially my hands and feet, lol. It

looked kinda funny.....

I found out today that my doc is going to treat me for H. Pylori. And we all

know what that means....antibiotics!!! Ugh!!! The H. Pylori is the cause for

me not being able to eat ANY acid at all, so hopefully, after this

treatment, I'll be able to go full blown scd. Pray, pray, pray with me! I've

been at this for four years trying to understand it all. If I could actually

eat applesauce and bananas, I would consider me an scd candidate....and the

luckiest person in the world! Hopefully, after this nasty bacteria is gone,

I will be able to do just that!

Thanks for the reply. Wish me luck. :-)

~

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: <pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: Fw: Yeast/carb wisdom from Elaine

>Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:52:32 -0600

>

>Elaine explains in her book how to eat so that we are balanced. Reread

>Chapter 9 and 10. God knows I have had to reread it a few times. lol! My

>book is looking it too. Protein is naturally higher in the SCDiet...and

>this is not to worry. Elaine says that it imitates the " original diet of

>mankind " and that it is very very well balanced when one eats well rounded

>and in the way she explains in her book.

>

>My daughter and I, had to do the intro " like " for 10 days....so sick

>couldn't tolerate much else. We lived on eggs (cooked in every way),

>chicken soups, beef soups, fruit sauces, bananas, and avocados....the

>yogurt was the most important, because it caused a wonderful die off...we

>ate it in the morning when acid production was low in the stomach so that

>the good probiotics would have a better chance...but anytime is a good time

>for SCD yogurt . Elaine says said that 1 to 2 cups of yogurt is fine/day

>for adult. Again though, you may want to go slower if you are

>new....because it does cause a die off reaction in some of us. This can

>make one feel mighty miserable for a while. We choose to jump in, my

>daughter was so thin I didn't want to waste time breaking the vicious

>cycle...but die off was not fun...after her first die off she smiled for

>the first time, her delirium seizures vanished...and started talking! We

>knew that we where doing something right then.

>

>Oh, too much carrot juice will turn you orange...lol! Not joking. Try to

>vary your choices if you can. Unless it causes anaphylaxis Elaine tells us

>we can eat it....anything allowed on the diet will kill off the yeast. It

>just takes time.

>

>God Bless, Antoinette and KiKi (2/06 celiac/ASD)

>

>

>