nightmares,tantrums,feeling conflicted

March 31, 2006

Hi all,

My son's behavior is really concerning me and I would like some insight from

other parents. We feel like we are saying " no " all the time. We say yes a lot

too but we have to limit foods on the diet and ds is still asking for sweets and

other forbiddens. This happens mainly when we are out, like at the grocery

store. I want to be able to go out to eat with friends. Tried it yesterday and

it was hard. He did eat the egg salad that I bought for him and some chicken.

I let him choose his own honey sticks and fruit leathers to give him some sense

of choice and autonomy. I probably won't be taking him to the grocery store

too much in the next couple of weeks. At home, he's scrounging to find

something to eat that he likes and I'm struggling to stay on top of the cooking.

Cooked meatloaf and we all hate it. It tastes like meatloaf should but just

isn't appealing. Cooked the intro cheesecake, back when I thought we'd go back

to the intro, but it tasted horrible!

Anyway, maybe I'm not always a good cook.

No, really, here's the deal. My son wakes up in the middle of the night

crying out things like, " I want that, " or " Give me that, " and reaching out his

arms for something invisible to me. He cries and cries. He also gets so mad

when I say that he can't have something like dried papaya or milk or whatever it

is. I feel like the best thing would be to never go out again. It's not like I

can say, this milk will hurt your tummy, because I don't know that it does. It

is so heartbreaking. During his waking hours, he is becoming increasingly

crankier and his moods are swinging all over the place. I can't force him to

eat a well balanced meal....can I? I am still concerned about calorie intake

and I'll admit, wish that I could just give him a big glass of milk to help him

with calories and feeling full. I didn't try the intro full heartedly, he just

wouldn't eat the food. I feel a need to see him consuming 1300 calories per day

and when he doesn't and then he won't sleep and he's

obviously got low blood sugar, I feel like an abusive parent.

THis has got to be the hardest thing I've ever had to do...in some ways. I am

feeling great. I ate out last night, bought a greek salad, had gas, but didn't

feel crampy or fatigued. My ds, on the other hand, woke up with stomach pains.

I'm thinking the stomach pains might be a response to the stress in our house at

the moment. My hormones are all out of wack and that really affects ds, as well

as, makes it difficult to parent him through this diet in a confident secure

way. I am disappointed that my 2 weeks of PMS hasn't chilled since starting the

diet...though I know it hasn't been much time yet.

I often question myself, whether this is the right thing to do but then when I

think about going back to our regular diet, I feel wrong about that too. I've

decided to get some tests ordered and then go from there. I think it would

behoove me to get an M.D.'s opinion though I know in the end I have to go on

intuition.

I miss my happy, but skinny, child. Now I feel like I have an unhappy, skinny

child.

Any encouragement would be appreciated.

Cheers,

gwen

luca - 3 yrs

scd 5 weeks, second time around

" Today a new sun rises for me; everything lives,

everything is animated, everything seems to speak

to me of my passion, everything invites me to cherish it. "

--Anne de Lenclos--

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March 31, 2006

It's turning warm. Perhaps you and your son could go out to parks for

picnics. Maybe he would feel less deprived if you took enough food

for him and then played with him afterward.

Make the eating aspect less of the focus and make the play time the focus.

Eating in restaurants is not the easiest thing to do with a 3 year old

anyway. Maybe your friends could join you at the park after you have

finished eating.

You could even have a picnic in your own yard or on your balcony or

wherever. Just make sure that the eating part is overwith quickly and

the playing part lasts longer than the meal.

It's tough to feel deprived of what you want (foods he can't have),

but if you get them out of your house and you don't take him to the

grocery store, he will think about them less and less. He is young.

Spend a lot of one-on-one time with him engaging him in play and he

will think less about the food.

You may also need to limit his TV viewing because all of those

commercials for junk food may fuel his desire for things he can't

have. Maybe you can get videos/DVDs from the library.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

March 31, 2006

Hi Gwen,

I am new here and can't answer a lot of what you said, but here are my thoughts:

1. Can you make an SCD legal ketchup to go on the meatloaf? (That is, if you

haven't

thrown it out yet!) If you are eating SCD legal cheese, some melted cheese on

top might

help.

2. Avocados are a good carb and also have plenty of fat (the good fats) so they

are filling.

I cut one up and share it with my daughter.

3. I would avoid restaurants and grocery stores for a little while - to take

your son to

these places seems too hard on him right now when he is still scrounging the

house

looking for other food. It just doesn't seem fair to him.

4. I believe that PMS is an inflammatory response. I take Krill Oil when I

have PMS, as it is

an anti-inflammatory. (I also take an SCD-legal vitamin C any time that I am

taking a fish

oil.) Calcium (lots of it) and vitamin E also help calm cramps.

I hope that this helps!

Carolyn

myself and dd (used to be PDD-NOS) SCD, day 7

>

> Hi all,

>

> My son's behavior is really concerning me and I would like some insight from

other

parents. We feel like we are saying " no " all the time. We say yes a lot too

but we have to

limit foods on the diet and ds is still asking for sweets and other forbiddens.

This

happens mainly when we are out, like at the grocery store. I want to be able to

go out to

eat with friends. Tried it yesterday and it was hard. He did eat the egg salad

that I bought

for him and some chicken. I let him choose his own honey sticks and fruit

leathers to give

him some sense of choice and autonomy. I probably won't be taking him to the

grocery

store too much in the next couple of weeks. At home, he's scrounging to find

something

to eat that he likes and I'm struggling to stay on top of the cooking. Cooked

meatloaf and

we all hate it. It tastes like meatloaf should but just isn't appealing.

Cooked the intro

cheesecake, back when I thought we'd go back to the intro, but it tasted

horrible!

>

> Anyway, maybe I'm not always a good cook.

>

> No, really, here's the deal. My son wakes up in the middle of the night

crying out

things like, " I want that, " or " Give me that, " and reaching out his arms for

something

invisible to me. He cries and cries. He also gets so mad when I say that he

can't have

something like dried papaya or milk or whatever it is. I feel like the best

thing would be to

never go out again. It's not like I can say, this milk will hurt your tummy,

because I don't

know that it does. It is so heartbreaking. During his waking hours, he is

becoming

increasingly crankier and his moods are swinging all over the place. I can't

force him to

eat a well balanced meal....can I? I am still concerned about calorie intake

and I'll admit,

wish that I could just give him a big glass of milk to help him with calories

and feeling full.

I didn't try the intro full heartedly, he just wouldn't eat the food. I feel a

need to see him

consuming 1300 calories per day and when he doesn't and then he won't sleep and

he's

> obviously got low blood sugar, I feel like an abusive parent.

>

> THis has got to be the hardest thing I've ever had to do...in some ways. I

am feeling

great. I ate out last night, bought a greek salad, had gas, but didn't feel

crampy or

fatigued. My ds, on the other hand, woke up with stomach pains. I'm thinking

the

stomach pains might be a response to the stress in our house at the moment. My

hormones are all out of wack and that really affects ds, as well as, makes it

difficult to

parent him through this diet in a confident secure way. I am disappointed that

my 2

weeks of PMS hasn't chilled since starting the diet...though I know it hasn't

been much

time yet.

>

> I often question myself, whether this is the right thing to do but then when

I think

about going back to our regular diet, I feel wrong about that too. I've decided

to get some

tests ordered and then go from there. I think it would behoove me to get an

M.D.'s

opinion though I know in the end I have to go on intuition.

>

> I miss my happy, but skinny, child. Now I feel like I have an unhappy,

skinny child.

>

> Any encouragement would be appreciated.

> Cheers,

> gwen

> luca - 3 yrs

> scd 5 weeks, second time around

>

> " Today a new sun rises for me; everything lives,

> everything is animated, everything seems to speak

> to me of my passion, everything invites me to cherish it. "

>

> --Anne de Lenclos--

>

> ---------------------------------

> New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save

big.

>

March 31, 2006

Hi Cheers,

This has not been an easy road to go and stay on this diet. We have

been doing it now for almost 11 wks. We do not eat out at all at

this time. I did not take my two to the groc. store for the first

couple weeks. It was to hard on them and me. They go with me now

though and we 'talk' about the things that are 'good' for us and the

things that 'hurt' us. My little boy still has a hard time

sometimes but he complies.

I too get very discouraged with all the time it takes and at times

yearn to be able to just go 'what ever place you like for fast food'

and get supper for my family. I then have to stop and think about

what life was like before we started this diet with a 5 yr old that

was raging 1 - 2 - maybe 3 times a day and just crabby in general

most of the rest of the time. Everything was a struggle. I then

get up and start the 'work' of fixing supper.

I don't know all of what your reasons were for starting SCD but for

us it has been a God send.

Sandy M.

Whole family on SCD 10 1/2 wks in support of 5 yr old who rages.

There not gone totally but life is so much easier.

>

> Hi all,

>

> My son's behavior is really concerning me and I would like some

insight from other parents. We feel like we are saying " no " all the

time. We say yes a lot too but we have to limit foods on the diet

and ds is still asking for sweets and other forbiddens. This

happens mainly when we are out, like at the grocery store. I want

to be able to go out to eat with friends. Tried it yesterday and it

was hard. He did eat the egg salad that I bought for him and some

chicken. I let him choose his own honey sticks and fruit leathers

to give him some sense of choice and autonomy. I probably won't be

taking him to the grocery store too much in the next couple of

weeks. At home, he's scrounging to find something to eat that he

likes and I'm struggling to stay on top of the cooking. Cooked

meatloaf and we all hate it. It tastes like meatloaf should but

just isn't appealing. Cooked the intro cheesecake, back when I

thought we'd go back to the intro, but it tasted horrible!

>

> Anyway, maybe I'm not always a good cook.

>

> No, really, here's the deal. My son wakes up in the middle of

the night crying out things like, " I want that, " or " Give me that, "

and reaching out his arms for something invisible to me. He cries

and cries. He also gets so mad when I say that he can't have

something like dried papaya or milk or whatever it is. I feel like

the best thing would be to never go out again. It's not like I can

say, this milk will hurt your tummy, because I don't know that it

does. It is so heartbreaking. During his waking hours, he is

becoming increasingly crankier and his moods are swinging all over

the place. I can't force him to eat a well balanced meal....can

I? I am still concerned about calorie intake and I'll admit, wish

that I could just give him a big glass of milk to help him with

calories and feeling full. I didn't try the intro full heartedly,

he just wouldn't eat the food. I feel a need to see him consuming

1300 calories per day and when he doesn't and then he won't sleep

and he's

> obviously got low blood sugar, I feel like an abusive parent.

>

> THis has got to be the hardest thing I've ever had to do...in

some ways. I am feeling great. I ate out last night, bought a

greek salad, had gas, but didn't feel crampy or fatigued. My ds, on

the other hand, woke up with stomach pains. I'm thinking the

stomach pains might be a response to the stress in our house at the

moment. My hormones are all out of wack and that really affects ds,

as well as, makes it difficult to parent him through this diet in a

confident secure way. I am disappointed that my 2 weeks of PMS

hasn't chilled since starting the diet...though I know it hasn't

been much time yet.

>

> I often question myself, whether this is the right thing to do

but then when I think about going back to our regular diet, I feel

wrong about that too. I've decided to get some tests ordered and

then go from there. I think it would behoove me to get an M.D.'s

opinion though I know in the end I have to go on intuition.

>

> I miss my happy, but skinny, child. Now I feel like I have an

unhappy, skinny child.

>

> Any encouragement would be appreciated.

> Cheers,

> gwen

> luca - 3 yrs

> scd 5 weeks, second time around

>

> " Today a new sun rises for me; everything lives,

> everything is animated, everything seems to speak

> to me of my passion, everything invites me to cherish it. "

>

> --Anne de Lenclos--

>

> ---------------------------------

> New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC

and save big.

>

March 31, 2006

Thanks everyone,

I feel like I'm on the right track. I've done the meatball/hamburger snack

thing and sometimes he eats it. I wonder about calcium intake because he eats

only a little cheese and a little broccoli. I'm wondering if he has some other

nutritional need that isn't getting met. I'm also thinking that our stress

level is really what adds to his stress and tantrums.

We eat outside a lot. We don't eat out with him hardly ever and don't expect

to. I have stopped taking him to the grocery store though I do want him to feel

empowered around food. On the other hand, I don't want him to focus on eating

all that much. I just want him to be a kid.

As for my PMS, I've tried lots of things and just know that they don't work.

It's like, enough is enough already. There's a long history of hormonal issues

in my family. My mother almost had a nervous breakdown because of hormones.

I'm going to have my hormonal levels checked and then go from there. I'm still

hoping the diet will start to smooth things out. I do other alternative

preventative things but nothing nips in the bud...well, except for

exercise...which I'm realizing is the key to optimal health in any instance.

I think what's hardest is going against the grain and then possibly going

against the grain of those who are going against the grain. The diet is more

than just alternative. The alternative practioners I know have never heard of

such a diet and have many concerns about it. I also feel that I have to find my

own way within this diet. I know that adhering to it is so important so I think

I don't want to go through this diet stuff alone or blindly. i have no idea

what makes my son tick sometimes. The constipation is gone because of the

wheat...I'm jsut sure of it. For most of you, eliminating the wheat didn't work.

I never even tried just eliminating the wheat. I want tests done but

non-invasive ones and I want the support and advice of a doc who is familiar

with this diet.

So, I'm feeling a little more centered about all of this though I still am

missing milk. I am feelign so much better but then I wasn't too far off from

feeling good anyway.

THanks for the encouragement and advice. STill open to more.

gwen undiagnosed digestive issues

Luca - 3 undiagnosed digestive issues and low weight gain

SCD 5 weeks, second time around

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