RE: Re: and the yeast beast

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What do you mean diflucan wipes out all the other good gut flora????? Please

advise, as I am about to go through round number 2 of diflucan!!

TIA,

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>HI Kim -

>

>This sounds exactly like our little guy! SCD has " solved " a lot of

>digestive probs for Cameron, but yeast creeps up on us every time!

>

>I just started some GSE drops this week and not sure about whether

>it's doing anything - diflucan works like a charm, but results wear

>off quick, it costs too much, plus it wipes out all the other good gut

>flora.

>

>Just curious about your " yeast protocol? "

>

>Thanks,

>Lynn - Mommy to Cameron 3.9 (ASD) and Mia Jean (20 months) and now DH

>(who complained continually about missing bread until just last week -

>sheesh!)all SCD! Day 66

>

>

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Whew. I'm so glad it doesn't kill of the beneficial guys. I DID hear that it

was hard on the liver, and my doc checked my liver after my first dose of it

because of that reason. So I don't think it's something you would want to be

on for long periods of time. I might ask for Nystatin instead. Does anyone

know if it's hard on the liver too? I'm sure there's side effects from

Nystatin too. :-/

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:03 -0000

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> > Diflucan is an anti-FUNGAL. It does not kill beneficial bacteria (or

> > any type of bacteria for that matter).

>

>I was misinformed then! I was told to up probiotics when dosing.

>Another ASD mom also told me that Diflucan is bad for the liver (DAN!

>said this too), so we started looking - AND STILL LOOKING - for an

>alternative.

>

>Diflucan also contains lactose and other illegals (in the white pill

>form), but can be compounded as Fluconazole with steviacide.

>

>Still trying out the GSE - day 4 with drops...

>

>Lynn - Mommy to Cameron and Mia Jean

>

>

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Awww, geeze. :-) You say one thing, Jody says another. I tried to look it up

on google, but can't really find any info. I suppose I'll just ask my

doctor, but my appointment's not for another two weeks.

Does anyone have any pat info on this?

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:35:38 -0000

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> >

> > What do you mean diflucan wipes out all the other good gut

>flora????? Please

> > advise, as I am about to go through round number 2 of diflucan!!

>

>

>As far as I know that is true. Diflucan and any prescription anti-

>fungal knocks all it can out within a 10 block radius. If you really

>need it to control yeast (we have, but are hopeful SCD may help with

>that)it would be good to follow your doses with yogurt and / or

>probioitics to help put some good bugs back in there. Some will

>argue that until you stop the anti-fungals putting good bugs back in

>is a waste, but I would respectfully disagree since our level of

>probioitics (don't do yogurt yet) is directly related to how much

>yeast we have.

>

> > >

> > >Just curious about your " yeast protocol? "

>

>As far as I know GSE does the same as RX anti-fungals. I had it

>described to me as similar to a carpet bomb going off in your gut.

>We use it and it has been VERY effective. Shows you how sick our

>kids are, even with RX anti-fungals the yeast was beating us before

>GSE.

>

>We do GSE with no-fenol and candex on an empty stomach in the AM and

>PM and if it's bad I do GSE with no-fenol at lunchtime too. I have

>experiemented with the drops. I never went over 5, but some do. I

>know with anti-virals we had to do 5. It works well for us, but I

>know for some it doesn't. There are many other things that work well

>for others.

>

>I give probiotics (again not doing yogurt yet) with it. It still

>seems effective, even though in theory they should be killed by the

>GSE. As I said, when I don't give the probioitics- bad news.

>

>HTH,

>Laurie

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That would certainly make the most sense....but I will ask the doctor just

to be sure. I'll let ya' know what he says. :-)

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:16:34 -0000

>

>It is really not scientifically plausible for an anti-fungal to kill

>anything besides yeast. That is the definition of an anti-fungal.

>

>There are some things that kill both yeast and bacteria. Those things

>are both anti-fungal and anti-bacterial in nature.

>

>But to my knowledge, Diflucan is PURELY an anti-fungal and will not do

>anything to the bacteria in the gut.

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

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That would certainly make the most sense....but I will ask the doctor just

to be sure. I'll let ya' know what he says. :-)

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:16:34 -0000

>

>It is really not scientifically plausible for an anti-fungal to kill

>anything besides yeast. That is the definition of an anti-fungal.

>

>There are some things that kill both yeast and bacteria. Those things

>are both anti-fungal and anti-bacterial in nature.

>

>But to my knowledge, Diflucan is PURELY an anti-fungal and will not do

>anything to the bacteria in the gut.

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

>

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Antiantibiotics? What is that?

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:19:16 -0000

>

>And to add to what I just posted, the DAN! doctors treat

>simultaneously with prescription (or natural) anti-fungals and

>antiantibiotics so that the bacteria does not overgrow while the yeast

>is dying.

>

>Diflucan does not kill bacteria (good or pathogenic).

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

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Antiantibiotics? What is that?

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:19:16 -0000

>

>And to add to what I just posted, the DAN! doctors treat

>simultaneously with prescription (or natural) anti-fungals and

>antiantibiotics so that the bacteria does not overgrow while the yeast

>is dying.

>

>Diflucan does not kill bacteria (good or pathogenic).

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

>

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LOL. Oh!! Man, I thought I was behind the times or something!!

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>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: and the " yeast beast "

>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:19:51 -0000

>

> >

> > Antiantibiotics? What is that?

>

>That's me probably getting interrupted when typing and not

>proofreading what I typed carefully enough before pressing send...LOL.

>

>

>Jody

>mom to -7 and -9

>SCD 1/03

>

>

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