Re: Different nut flours/ ghee/ dccc?

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

I just bought ground pecans at http://www.georgiapecan.com You have

to call to get them and buy 30# but they were less than $3 a # with

shipping. I have a local health food store that I get bulk cashews

for about 3.75 a # and I buy a months worth of them to get that

price.

The almond flour I have gotten from http://www.nuts4u.com/asp/s-

products.asp?NType=57 & Category=8 I have also gotten almond flour

from http://www.digestivewellness.com/ I did not like the pecan

flour that I got there though.

I pretty much use which ever flour I want in what ever recipe. I

like to mix the pecan and cashew in some recipes. I think that it

depends on your own person likes.

I don't have any experience with DCCC or the casein issues. I make

goat yogart from fresh raw goat milk and use the yogart in place of

the DCCC. So far it has worked.

Hope this helps a little.

Sandy M.

Whole family SCD almost 3 month in support of 5 yr old that rarely

rages now. YES!!!!!

>

> We are getting ready to begin SCD after months of contemplation

and

> waiting for a rough semester of hubby's school to end. I have

> finally decided to bite the bullet since he is about home free at

> this point.

>

> I wondered if the different nut flours are interchangable in

> recipes? I noticed that some flours are quite a bit cheaper and

> honestly with a family of 6 that is an issue. Is it better to buy

> whole nuts and grind them yourself or buy the flour? I am assuming

> (maybe wrong as I am tired) that a pound of nuts will not yield a

> pound of flour, so is it actually a better bargain to buy the

flour?

>

> Also, what is the thinking on the dry curd cottage cheese and

ghee?

> Are these things I can give a casein free child? We did a peptide

> test and his casein was SKY HIGH! He was negative on gluten, but I

> know that is not always reliable. He is currently casein free and

> soy free as we move toward SCD.

>

> Thanks,

> Laurie

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[Guest guest]

Antoinette,

Thanks for responding. See comments interspersed.

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> We had problems with rages, tantrums, STRANGE BEHAVIOR and

such...the almond flour was too high in Phenol.....thus where the

name " Pecan Bread " FOR THIS LIST SERVE came from...many ASD, (the

spectrum is big also including some forms of mental illness and ADD

and ADHD) kids/adults can not tolerate the almond flour at first.

My family is about a mess except for hubby and my oldest girl. My

second, a boy has had reflux since birth, hardly eats, chronic

constipation (they want to put him on meds, but I refuse),and eats

enough to maybe keep a fly alive. My 5 month old girl seems to have

some sort of issues, although it's hard to pinpoint. I am not

vaccinating her (she got up through 2 months since it was before my

son's diagnosis) and she gets some probiotics for infants and a

pinch of enzymes here and there. She only has formula still. I have

had heartburn since a child and seem to have on and off loose stools

and stomach pains. I have also had a few gallbladder attacks here

and there. Not fun!!

My # 3 is the biggest motivator since he is classic autism. He is 2

1/2 and non-verbal. We lost all speech after getting 5 shots in one

day last spring. He had gotten behind. He has TONS of GI issues. He

has not had a formed still in about a year (maybe once in a great

while, although I've learned not to get my hopes up), hiss tools are

yellow with TONS of undigested food in them. His stool test showed

high triglycerides, which added up since cod liver oil gives him

diarrhea. He doesn't seem to absorb fats. He also has scary low IgA-

so he can't fight off the yeast an dthings because there is

basically no one standing guard along the walls of his intestines.

Our single biggest improvement with him was when we took milk away.

He is on enzymes (noticed little difference, we also started

chelating, but so far have seen little with that, although it's only

round 3. I am really thinking a lot of his break throughs may come

through diet. I pray I am right. I am getting depressed since we

have been working so hard for months and have seen nothing since the

initial milk intervention. That was a long time ago and it starts to

wear on you.

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> I process (in food processor) my own pecan flour by buying the

pecans by the bulk at Costco or Sams Club....many do this on the

list...saves lots of

> money! But I like to rotate our nut flour....not good to eat the

same kind day in and day out, when you have sensitivity issues and a

leaky healing gut.

So with nuts whole, am I looking for the package to say " raw " or

what? I happen to have some walnuts, not roasted out of the shell

that I bought at our price club. Will those work?

Also, what nuts are highest in phenols? I heard almond, but what

else besides pecan is a good idea. My son takes no-fenol and has had

a few issues there, but not bad.

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> Coconut makes a delicious flour too...very affordable! Can buy it

already made or process it your self in food processor.

We love coconut! Yummy! Does that interchange also in breads and

things?

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> About the casein...there are many of us here who are dairy

free....you can do SCD and be healthy and eat well without the

dairy. DRY CURD/cow, did not work in this house...bad behavioral

consequences! I personally do not trust ghee, I don't think they

can possibly get all the casein out of it.

So what do you do in the recipes calling for ghee or DCCC? I have

seen many. Can you sub yogurt in there or what?

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> People are making nut yogurts and coconut yogurt so that you can

still get the benefits of the probiotics in the yogurt....plus have

a new " treat " .

I have read about the nut yogurts. You can do yogurt from coconut

milk too right?

> I have been told that some of these sensitivities we " heal " out

of...that six to nine months into diet we will very well be able to

tolerate the casein again!

I pray that's true because I know he is missing some dairy. Poor

guy.

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> For the " die off " (when bad gut guys start starving to death in

the gut) before it happens have activated charcoal capsules handy

and Epson salt for soaks in the tub....you may need it...die off

feels like the flu...some get it bad...some don't seem to get it at

all! Stick close and we will help you through it regardless!

Been down that road after we started seeing Dr. Megson. It was a

pretty good battle for about a month. I think we have the worst of

it under control, but I am hoping to see more with the diet.

Thanks again,

Laurie

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[Guest guest]

Sorry that some answers are slow in coming.

I was out of town Thursday through Sunday and then again all day today.

Sheila has been sick since mid-March...

I would not use DCCC or dairy for a child who is currently casein free.

Most nut flours can be used interchangeably. Cashew flour tends to be

an exception to that and it is also more difficult to digest and

should be used later than the others anyway.

It depends on what type of processor you have whether you can grind

nuts in to flour. With a Vitamix, you'll have no trouble. With a run

of the mill, inexpensive food processor, it is unlikely that you will

be able to process anything into a flour (with the possible exception

of pecans and walnuts).

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03