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I have been listening in on the large pupil thing...and it is getting pretty

creepy! lol

We have been worrying about heavy metals ourselves....hope Dan doctor we see at

end of April can help us in this area also! How do you know if you have Large

pupils...if you don't know what to compare them too? Our son has very long

eyelashes.....

I have had all my metal fillings switched to ceramic/or what ever they call the

tooth colored fillings. I had the old kind that the dentist did not think where

SAFE...so he talked me into having them all redone! YIKES!

What a world we live in!

Antoinette (day 49 entire family SCD)

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Dear everyone:

Thank you for your replies. I personally have always had very large pupils

and very long eyelashes! I just wanted clarification about exactly what you

were meaning. My 7 year old also has large pupils. I will look into this.

Since her ADHD was seemingly under control on SCD, I have not had her tested for

metal poisoning. My UC is doing well too so I have not been tested. I have a

mouth full of fillings from when I had braces, my teeth did not do too well with

the braces, I got lots of cavities. Thank again for all of your input. Eileen

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It sounds like the HBOT did some " chelating " of sorts (which is one of the

things that it is supposed to help with as well as killing bad bacteria in the

gut . . . maybe why your son was " yeasty " for a time . . it could have been

" die-off). It does sound like you have more metals in there, and only you can

decide what is the best course of action or maybe " non-action " concerning that.

Apparently, though, this adjustment in the pupils can happen with even just a

little bit of " metals moving. " My son, , is not chelating in the true

sense. He is using PCA-RX spray to pull his metals. It is not a true chelator,

but is showing a lot of promise as a low or no-risk way to detox (it doesn't

pull out the minerals, but does pull out the metals quite well in some

individuals). Anyway, has only been using this spray a few weeks, and he

is no where near his full dosage. However, Dr. Megson could already see some

improvement in his pupils' reactions to light last week at our appointment. She

seemed very pleased with his progress.

I hope our experience gives you a little something to go on. I am sorry that

you didn't see more progress with your HBOT treatments. I don't have the answer

to that one since it is so new and everyone is just figuring out where this fits

into the spectrum picture. It could be that your son needs more dives. And it

could be that his symptoms were a result of the " die-off " that is supposed to

occur. And, also, it seems apparent that you stirred up some metals without

getting them all out. The symptoms could be a result of the remaining metals

redistributing themselves in his system again. Just some guesses . . . I

certainly am no doctor.

Good luck in your continued journey!

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 2 months

mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy metal toxicity)

, 3 yr. (risk for add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy metal toxicity)

Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD 4 months

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I have to chime in on the topic of dialated pupils, because we have had a

weird

experience with this issue. No one takes this experience seriously, but as his

mother

who looks into his eyes everyday, I notice a change.

My son always had very large pupils. This seems to be related to if he was

actually

focusing on something or not. Was he staring or actually looking.

In spite of this, he has always been a very high functioning child. We have

done diet,

supplements, ABA, Methyl B12 injections etc..... Now at age 5, he is caught

up (even

ahead) in many developmental areas. He lags behind in motor skills and has

sensory

issues. I know he was mercury damaged, but we have never chelated. ly, I

have

been to afraid of the regression that usually takes place. He has done so

well, I just

can't imagine watching him go backwards.

Anyway, the weird part about dialated pupils .... In January right after he

turned Five,

we went to a Hyperbarics Center in another state, and did 20 " dives " in 2

weeks. Now

I don't think that was the best way to do it, because he seemed to actually be

less

focused in general, got a little yeasty, and diarhea. (I did teach him to play

chess

while we were in the chamber.) Anyway, after we had been home for a week or

so. I

noticed that his pupils seem to be more normal size, and reacted to changes in

light

more normally. He still has sensory issues -- maybe more than before. His

motor

skills have not really improved. I believe we are still dealing with metals.

He is

continuing to learn very well, and is starting to read a little.

I just don't know what to think about this experience. Any ideas?

Amy

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Hi Antionette!

Your DAN should know what to compare them too. I never realized that 's

pupils were large until a friend brought it to my attention. I just always

thought he was exceptionally good looking with his big puppy eyes and gorgeous

eyelashes. So many people just stop in their tracks and stare at him because of

how beautiful his big eyes and long eyelashes are. One woman said, " Gracious!

I think I would kill to have lashes like that! " I would get so proud and be

flattered that my son had these amazing traits. I had no idea until recently

that they were a symptom of a very evil, wicked, poison lurking within his body

.. . . what a shame!

And in relation to your dentist, depending on his experience and the methods he

used to remove your amalgams . . . it could have actually exposed you to more

mercury. I don't know enough to judge what the right way is, but I have heard

that if you don't have someone who " knows what they are doing " perform the

procedure, it can do more harm than good. I am personally looking into this

whole thing to take care of mine too, but I haven't gotten far enough on my

research on that topic. But if your dentist did a " proper " job (whatever that

means) than porcelain or composite fillings are a good alternative to amalgams.

Jeni Lynn

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I have been listening in on the large pupil thing...and it is getting pretty

creepy! lol

We have been worrying about heavy metals ourselves....hope Dan doctor we see

at end of April can help us in this area also! How do you know if you have

Large pupils...if you don't know what to compare them too? Our son has very

long eyelashes.....

I have had all my metal fillings switched to ceramic/or what ever they call

the tooth colored fillings. I had the old kind that the dentist did not think

where SAFE...so he talked me into having them all redone! YIKES!

What a world we live in!

Antoinette (day 49 entire family SCD)

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Dilated pupils can also be due to low muscle tone, which can come from brain

injury/dysfunction (mercury perhaps?) or from hypothyroidism (common in ASD

kids, comes along with gut problems, also related to mercury, also related

to iodine deficiency). The hyperbaric treatments must have improved

something...

If one pupil is larger than the other, and/or less responsive to changes in

light than the other, that's often caused by pressure on a cranial nerve and

is usually easily fixed by cranial-sacral treatments (one to three will

usually do it).

Kayla

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