Re: Still Not Seeing Results/addicted?

April 3, 2006

said:

her " body is aching for cheddar cheese " .................yikes!

I say this to add:

IN this house we would considered this a RED FLAG! YOU MAY WANT TO JUST STICK

TO THE GOAT YOGURT (goat proteins are easier to digest with enzymes).....and

take the other stuff (cheese and dry curd) out until she heals for a

while...especially if she is having neurological symptoms such as

irritability....easy crying.....cravings.....tiredness.....tantrums....problems

sleeping...and such....I know you probably do not want to hear this.....we just

discovered from personal experience that people/kids with a

problem/sensitivity/allergy/intolerance to dairy CRAVE THE STUFF WITH A

VENGEANCE when we take it out! Supplement with Calcium and watch this symptoms

NOT GO AWAY (this is not about calcium)...she may be addicted like we where.

When the gut is so damaged that these proteins get through and leak into the

blood stream and get into the brain...they can become VERY Very ADDICTIVE

behaviors and ASD consequences. Could somebody with " time " explain this

phenomena.... Enzymes help...so that we can still get this wonderful SCD yogurt

that heals the gut.....in moderation...and not " binging " on the stuff...and ONLY

with enzymes...we don't get that " addicted " to the stuff....we plan on adding

the cheeses in six or nine months (SLOWLY).....especially in light of her

showing signs of this sensitivity/addiction problem.....that definitely causes

our mental problems to become worse!

said:

Elaine used to say how surprised she was that only in autism where

people so scared of dairy (casein). The issue of gut health in autism

is a moving target, so the casein issue was one of those issues in

flux. Alot of what was thought to be true (i.e. casein is poison and

no autistic person should be within 20 miles of it) have been proven

false. There are now lots of experiences where a person with autism

did much better with casein in the diet than not. Each person is

different. There were lots of posts in the beginning of this group on

how the yogurt was healing, just as adding in digestive enzymes and

probitics are healing (no duh there...the special yogurt contains

live probiotic cultures and enzymes along with minerals and other

healing factors).

I add:

I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT ENZYMES ARE THE SECRET HERE in our family....and a MUST

in this house! Otherwise we get this strange addictive behavior (obsession with

dairy foods...causing very strong cravings (not related to calcium...believe

me!)...which is not always pleasant....and then if we eat it without

enzymes...we act GOOFY....tantrums, rage attacks....irritable at the

least....foggy mind...can't concentrate or focus.....can't sleep...night

terrors...night mares....in KiKi our 22 mo. daughter seizures(obviously not all

have seizures though)......ASD stuff!

also said:

It's interesting to note also that many people with autism who had

problems with casein/dairy in general did not with the special

yogurt. Actually, they were thriving on the yogurt. And there were

those on SCD that added digestive enzymes to see a jump in

improvement. There is a parallel here.

Soooo, if you haven't tried the SCD yogurt, that's something to

consider. It's a whole-food source of nourishment. If you are nervous

of the casein, consider an enzyme with DPP IV in it. There are quite

a few available which work just fine, and there are about a half

dozen more coming out this year.

I continue:

So there you have it...my opinion for what it is worth...hope you see results

soon...she may have to go thought " Withdrawal " first...if you do this...stay

close to the serve....hot baths with Epson salt comfort much when she starts the

DETOX (need lots of love and understanding...she will beg for the old foods!

" JUST SAY NO " ...with love)...also get activated charcoal capsules...they helped

me tons....when the detox/die off started!

HANG IN THERE! DON'T GIVE UP! We look forward to the problem in our guts

healing so that some day, like Elaine says...only when ready we can slowly

reintroduce some of these treats that use to make our brains and guts so sick.

I trust that all these testimonies are not lying to us! WE WILL EAT

AGAIN...much more than what we are limited to now....already seeing so much

improvement! A few weeks ago I couldn't eat raw vegetables...now I can....we

all are healing...and the list of foods we eat slowly grows......not

shrink....as you may fear....

Sincerely, Antoinette

(day 42 entire family SCD/Celiac, Leaky Gut, multiple sensitivity/allergy and

addiction to some foods because of it (dairy, corn in particular)

....ADD,ADHD,ASD ...finally over the hump! and healing! Thanks to this serve and

BTVC!)

April 3, 2006

I agree, there are certain foods, dairy/grains being the main offenders that

actually have opiate type componds, when not properly absorbed these opiate

compounds signale the brian, much like an addictive drug. I would eliminate

all dairy for at least a month and then start slow with the addition of goat

yogurt

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: <pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: Re: Still Not Seeing Results/addicted?

>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 07:34:14 -0600

>

> said:

>

>her " body is aching for cheddar cheese " .................yikes!

>

>I say this to add:

>IN this house we would considered this a RED FLAG! YOU MAY WANT TO JUST

>STICK TO THE GOAT YOGURT (goat proteins are easier to digest with

>enzymes).....and take the other stuff (cheese and dry curd) out until she

>heals for a while...especially if she is having neurological symptoms such

>as irritability....easy

>crying.....cravings.....tiredness.....tantrums....problems sleeping...and

>such....I know you probably do not want to hear this.....we just discovered

>from personal experience that people/kids with a

>problem/sensitivity/allergy/intolerance to dairy CRAVE THE STUFF WITH A

>VENGEANCE when we take it out! Supplement with Calcium and watch this

>symptoms NOT GO AWAY (this is not about calcium)...she may be addicted like

>we where. When the gut is so damaged that these proteins get through and

>leak into the blood stream and get into the brain...they can become VERY

>Very ADDICTIVE behaviors and ASD consequences. Could somebody with " time "

>explain this phenomena.... Enzymes help...so that we can still get this

>wonderful SCD yogurt that heals the gut.....in moderation...and not

> " binging " on the stuff...and ONLY with enzymes...we don't get that

> " addicted " to the stuff....we plan on adding the cheeses in six or nine

>months (SLOWLY).....especially in light of her showing signs of this

>sensitivity/addiction problem.....that definitely causes our mental

>problems to become worse!

> said:

> Elaine used to say how surprised she was that only in autism where

> people so scared of dairy (casein). The issue of gut health in autism

> is a moving target, so the casein issue was one of those issues in

> flux. Alot of what was thought to be true (i.e. casein is poison and

> no autistic person should be within 20 miles of it) have been proven

> false. There are now lots of experiences where a person with autism

> did much better with casein in the diet than not. Each person is

> different. There were lots of posts in the beginning of this group on

> how the yogurt was healing, just as adding in digestive enzymes and

> probitics are healing (no duh there...the special yogurt contains

> live probiotic cultures and enzymes along with minerals and other

> healing factors).

>

> I add:

> I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT ENZYMES ARE THE SECRET HERE in our family....and

>a MUST in this house! Otherwise we get this strange addictive behavior

>(obsession with dairy foods...causing very strong cravings (not related to

>calcium...believe me!)...which is not always pleasant....and then if we eat

>it without enzymes...we act GOOFY....tantrums, rage attacks....irritable at

>the least....foggy mind...can't concentrate or focus.....can't

>sleep...night terrors...night mares....in KiKi our 22 mo. daughter

>seizures(obviously not all have seizures though)......ASD stuff!

>

> also said:

> It's interesting to note also that many people with autism who had

> problems with casein/dairy in general did not with the special

> yogurt. Actually, they were thriving on the yogurt. And there were

> those on SCD that added digestive enzymes to see a jump in

> improvement. There is a parallel here.

>

> Soooo, if you haven't tried the SCD yogurt, that's something to

> consider. It's a whole-food source of nourishment. If you are nervous

> of the casein, consider an enzyme with DPP IV in it. There are quite

> a few available which work just fine, and there are about a half

> dozen more coming out this year.

>

> I continue:

> So there you have it...my opinion for what it is worth...hope you see

>results soon...she may have to go thought " Withdrawal " first...if you do

>this...stay close to the serve....hot baths with Epson salt comfort much

>when she starts the DETOX (need lots of love and understanding...she will

>beg for the old foods! " JUST SAY NO " ...with love)...also get activated

>charcoal capsules...they helped me tons....when the detox/die off started!

>

> HANG IN THERE! DON'T GIVE UP! We look forward to the problem in our

>guts healing so that some day, like Elaine says...only when ready we can

>slowly reintroduce some of these treats that use to make our brains and

>guts so sick. I trust that all these testimonies are not lying to us! WE

>WILL EAT AGAIN...much more than what we are limited to now....already

>seeing so much improvement! A few weeks ago I couldn't eat raw

>vegetables...now I can....we all are healing...and the list of foods we eat

>slowly grows......not shrink....as you may fear....

>

> Sincerely, Antoinette

>

> (day 42 entire family SCD/Celiac, Leaky Gut, multiple

>sensitivity/allergy and addiction to some foods because of it (dairy, corn

>in particular) ...ADD,ADHD,ASD ...finally over the hump! and healing!

>Thanks to this serve and BTVC!)

>

April 3, 2006

I didn't get the impression that the child discussed was on the Autism

spectrum.

Please keep in mind that not all of the members of this list have kids

on the ASD spectrum.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

April 3, 2006

That's true, she's not autistic - she has Crohn's/UC. I'm going to try

going off of the farmer's cheese today anyway just to see if it makes a

difference. The problem is she keeps wanting more food! I give her

breakfast and she wants more, but I'm trying to limit so many foods.

I'm going to try to push the meat today, but she's so sick of it.

Thanks for all the advice.

Karyn

>

> I didn't get the impression that the child discussed was on the Autism

> spectrum.

>

> Please keep in mind that not all of the members of this list have kids

> on the ASD spectrum.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

April 3, 2006

This is true, she has Crohn's/UC.

>

> I didn't get the impression that the child discussed was on the Autism

> spectrum.

>

> Please keep in mind that not all of the members of this list have kids

> on the ASD spectrum.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

April 3, 2006

I'm not all that familiar with Farmer's Cheese, but I do know that

some Farmer's cheese is not DCCC.

Perhaps removing it will be a good idea.

But I would go ahead and start giving her some other food. Ripe

bananas, avocados, squash, green beans, applesauce (homemade), etc.

Does she like gelatin? Maybe you could make some with her today and

make the knox blox recipe. If you clear off a shelf in your fridge,

you can make it on a cookie sheet and then let her use cookie cutters

on it and eat the shapes.

Banana pancakes, chicken pancakes dipped in honey, sneaky veggie pancakes.

Make a few things that are easy to digest.

Are you giving her yogurt yet?

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

April 3, 2006

Actually, it was me who brainstormed the use of enzymes for the parent who has

yet to see results for her 7yo daughter ... she said her daughter reported that

her " body was aching for cheddar cheese " .

This child will see results yet.

Agape,

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