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Becky,

Do you think he could be bugging you now because he is craving the starch that

he had on GF/CF but doesn't have now? Maybe that is it (which actually wouldn't

be that weird then). Just thinking . . .

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

RE: Re: Salicylate List/Questions

It really depends on the kid I think. My son was GFCF for 2 years before

SCD. We added real butter last summer with no problems. We have also had

no problems with the goat yogurt, which I actually tried on him before

starting SCD, so I could evaluate any reaction before a major change in

diet.

When GFCF, we had a few minor gluten infractions that were very

noticeable but short term thankfully. After a while no behaviors with

infraction but diarrhea with even a minor cross-contamination.

Strangely, since we started SCD 3 weeks ago, he has been bugging me like

crazy for wheat and dairy containing foods that he hasn't had for 2

years! Mac and cheese and croutons... hasn't even entertained the idea

in close to 2 years and now is bugging me for it? Weird.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD 3 weeks

> I was under the assumption that any dairy protein can cause problems

for

> people on the spectrum (including SID and ADD/ADHD). I can't give my

son

> any

> dairy no matter which animal it comes from. His reaction to dairy is

the

> same as gluten: irritable, withdrawn, decreased eye contact, bites the

> side

> of his mouth, foggy and less coordinated.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

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Becky,

Do you think he could be bugging you now because he is craving the starch that

he had on GF/CF but doesn't have now? Maybe that is it (which actually wouldn't

be that weird then). Just thinking . . .

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

RE: Re: Salicylate List/Questions

It really depends on the kid I think. My son was GFCF for 2 years before

SCD. We added real butter last summer with no problems. We have also had

no problems with the goat yogurt, which I actually tried on him before

starting SCD, so I could evaluate any reaction before a major change in

diet.

When GFCF, we had a few minor gluten infractions that were very

noticeable but short term thankfully. After a while no behaviors with

infraction but diarrhea with even a minor cross-contamination.

Strangely, since we started SCD 3 weeks ago, he has been bugging me like

crazy for wheat and dairy containing foods that he hasn't had for 2

years! Mac and cheese and croutons... hasn't even entertained the idea

in close to 2 years and now is bugging me for it? Weird.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD 3 weeks

> I was under the assumption that any dairy protein can cause problems

for

> people on the spectrum (including SID and ADD/ADHD). I can't give my

son

> any

> dairy no matter which animal it comes from. His reaction to dairy is

the

> same as gluten: irritable, withdrawn, decreased eye contact, bites the

> side

> of his mouth, foggy and less coordinated.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

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It really depends on the kid I think. My son was GFCF for 2 years before

SCD. We added real butter last summer with no problems. We have also had

no problems with the goat yogurt, which I actually tried on him before

starting SCD, so I could evaluate any reaction before a major change in

diet.

When GFCF, we had a few minor gluten infractions that were very

noticeable but short term thankfully. After a while no behaviors with

infraction but diarrhea with even a minor cross-contamination.

Strangely, since we started SCD 3 weeks ago, he has been bugging me like

crazy for wheat and dairy containing foods that he hasn't had for 2

years! Mac and cheese and croutons... hasn't even entertained the idea

in close to 2 years and now is bugging me for it? Weird.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD 3 weeks

> I was under the assumption that any dairy protein can cause problems

for

> people on the spectrum (including SID and ADD/ADHD). I can't give my

son

> any

> dairy no matter which animal it comes from. His reaction to dairy is

the

> same as gluten: irritable, withdrawn, decreased eye contact, bites the

> side

> of his mouth, foggy and less coordinated.

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It really depends on the kid I think. My son was GFCF for 2 years before

SCD. We added real butter last summer with no problems. We have also had

no problems with the goat yogurt, which I actually tried on him before

starting SCD, so I could evaluate any reaction before a major change in

diet.

When GFCF, we had a few minor gluten infractions that were very

noticeable but short term thankfully. After a while no behaviors with

infraction but diarrhea with even a minor cross-contamination.

Strangely, since we started SCD 3 weeks ago, he has been bugging me like

crazy for wheat and dairy containing foods that he hasn't had for 2

years! Mac and cheese and croutons... hasn't even entertained the idea

in close to 2 years and now is bugging me for it? Weird.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD 3 weeks

> I was under the assumption that any dairy protein can cause problems

for

> people on the spectrum (including SID and ADD/ADHD). I can't give my

son

> any

> dairy no matter which animal it comes from. His reaction to dairy is

the

> same as gluten: irritable, withdrawn, decreased eye contact, bites the

> side

> of his mouth, foggy and less coordinated.

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" Is this low or high...I assume high for the walnut? Also can

anybody tell me if milk is high....some lists say it is some say it

isn't. This may answer the problem we have with the goat yogurt and

only being able to tolerate a few teaspoons full so far (if eat

more/bowel full...tantrums, rages, foggy mind, feeling drunk, and

irritability). "

Walnuts at .3mg/100gram serving would put them in the moderate

category for salycilate content.

To my knowledge dairy products do not contain any salycilates. My bet

on the yogurt is die off. Have you tried taking activated charcoal a

few hours after eating the yogurt? If not, try that and see if you

feel better.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

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Hey Becky!

I guess the yeastie beasties and other " bad guys " don't see too much difference

between GFCF starches and the original offenders. So maybe that is why his

brain is sending a signal for the old stuff. I think it is so interesting that

you posted this. It makes me glad that we didn't waste time on GFCF and went

straight to this.

Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems)

SCD 1 month

mom to 3 spectrum/at risk for spectrum kids

SCD 3 months

RE: Re: Salicylate List/Questions

Yeah, I was kind of thinking along those same lines. Its just funny that

he isn't asking for the GFCF starches, but the old wheat and dairy

filled foods.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD 3 weeks

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>

> Hey Becky!

>

> I guess the yeastie beasties and other " bad guys " don't see too much

difference between

GFCF starches and the original offenders. So maybe that is why his brain is

sending a

signal for the old stuff. I think it is so interesting that you posted this.

It makes me glad

that we didn't waste time on GFCF and went straight to this.

>

The brain is sending the message because those carbohydrates tend to be

addictive. Did

you ever eat just one pretzel, one saltine, one potato chip or one piece of

popcorn? I don't

think so.

Carol F.

celiac, SCD 6 years,

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