Re: Tears, Cravings and Tummy Trouble

May 23, 2006

I don't have advice about the banana they can be hard to digest for

some, easy for others. But you've hit the time for die off. Die off

is yucky. You might try some activated charcoal. I had to give it

to my daughter in a little honey. It really made her tummy feel

better. And don't forget the epsom salts baths, they really seemed

to help too. We thought her die off wouldn't be that bad, she is NT

with some food intolerances and we'd " done " the intro once, but boy

were we wrong. She had a yucky hurting die off about 2-3 days into

the intro the second time. Maybe some one has an answer about the

bananas. Sometimes, just holding where you are for a day may give

you an answer. I know its hard, if he's refusing the soup. Will he

drink and stay hydrated? Best to you.

Colby

celiac

SCD 2.5 months (DD and self)

>

> My son- 5 yrs old- SCD since 4-17-06 (jumped right in)- restarted

with

> intro right on Sunday- has been craving bananas ever since I added

> them back in to help his diarrhea. He will cry if I won't give him

> one and will now not willingly eat his formerly loved intro soup

even

> though I've tried making polka dot soup (egg dots made w/ straw)

and

> wishing star soup (used mini cookie cutter) and all sorts of

enticing

> way to have soup!

> Is this a sign that bananas are probably bad for him (too sweet at

> this point)? Or, is his body craving a needed nutrient in them.

> Also, he keeps waking up at night with diarrhea several times.

First

> he will cry out like he's dying that his stomach is hurting then

he'll

> have to rush to the bathroom.

> No normal BMs since Saturday. Rarely goes poop during the day-

it's

> all at night. Kinda whiny and tired today too. But skin is

> beautifully clear.

> Last night also had wheezing attack after chicken muffins made with

> banana, pear and I added cinnamon and vanilla first time for

several

> days. Feel those last two are suspect or either too many bananas.

Any

> cures for the night time waking potty stuff or is this just die off?

> Thanks for any advice!

> Janet, mom to Cody

>

May 23, 2006

Thanks- I think you are right it probably is die off- so that's a good

thing that we are on track- right?! I have some activated charcoal

and am glad to know I can give it in honey. So, if he wakes up in the

middle of the night I can give him some- say 1/2 a capsule??- (mixed

w/ honey), but do I need to make him drink a lot of water with it or

is that something else I'm thinking of that can cause blockages?

He's usually half asleep when he cries out and falls asleep sitting on

the toilet poor thing but I could get a few sips in him.

I did get him to eat a bit of soup, we played UNO (he loves any kind

of game) and every now and then I shoved a bite in his mouth and he

didn't protest. He cleaned up the pearsauce I made too and after 2

scrambled eggs for snack he really perked up and was quite happy the

rest of the day. Face and body unusually clear and free from eczema

and red cheeks- hooray!

Janet, mom to Cody- SCD since 4-17-06, going through intro again since

5-21-06

.. Die off

> is yucky. You might try some activated charcoal. I had to give it

> to my daughter in a little honey. It really made her tummy feel

> better. And don't forget the epsom salts baths, they really seemed

> to help too.

May 24, 2006

Janet,

Not sure if this helps.... but remember that sometimes the cravings are coming

from the bad-guy gut pathogens.... that are DESPERATE for what they need to

survive... and are sending those craving messages to try to get those starches

and sugars, at all costs. They sort of take over and try to control the kid's

behavior in and all-out effort to survive. Helps to think of it that way,

sometimes. Sometimes it's those last " hold outs " ... the really persistant and

resistant gut bugs that have the most powerful influence. Hang in there!

Patti, mom to Katera

Tears, Cravings and Tummy Trouble

My son- 5 yrs old- SCD since 4-17-06 (jumped right in)- restarted with

intro right on Sunday- has been craving bananas ever since I added

them back in to help his diarrhea. He will cry if I won't give him

one and will now not willingly eat his formerly loved intro soup even

though I've tried making polka dot soup (egg dots made w/ straw) and

wishing star soup (used mini cookie cutter) and all sorts of enticing

way to have soup!

Is this a sign that bananas are probably bad for him (too sweet at

this point)? Or, is his body craving a needed nutrient in them.

Also, he keeps waking up at night with diarrhea several times. First

he will cry out like he's dying that his stomach is hurting then he'll

have to rush to the bathroom.

No normal BMs since Saturday. Rarely goes poop during the day- it's

all at night. Kinda whiny and tired today too. But skin is

beautifully clear.

Last night also had wheezing attack after chicken muffins made with

banana, pear and I added cinnamon and vanilla first time for several

days. Feel those last two are suspect or either too many bananas. Any

cures for the night time waking potty stuff or is this just die off?

Thanks for any advice!

Janet, mom to Cody

May 24, 2006

Sorry, I didn't see your post until today. yes, if you have to you

can give it int he middle of the night. I gave my 3 year old 1/2 a

capsule with a little honey. You probably need to get him to drink a

few drinks and maybe brush his teeth (turns them black). I hadn't

heard that it causes blockages, I made her drink because of the black

teeth He, he. Good luck.

Colby

celiac

2.5 months SCD

> . Die off

> > is yucky. You might try some activated charcoal. I had to give

it

> > to my daughter in a little honey. It really made her tummy feel

> > better. And don't forget the epsom salts baths, they really

seemed

> > to help too.

>

May 25, 2006

Patti,

Thanks- your's and everyone's words of encouragement really do help!

I think I have another clue about his night waking stomach pain and

diarrhea.

The ND today reminded me of something that I had read in the past but

had forgotten. The liver works hardest around 3 to 5 in the morning

processing all the " junk " from the day. So, if you wake up feeling

ill about that time of early morning, it can mean your liver is having

trouble processing something from that day the body was exposed to.

Since, Cody wakes up like clockwork and has all his trouble between

2:30 to 5:30 am, we think his liver may be overwhelmed with waste

products from dying gut bugs/yeast, the residual effects from

overlapping courses of Flagyl and Vancomycin that ended last week and

maybe something he's not digesting well. I think I've been hitting

the chicken and eggs a little heavy in his diet, so have tried to be

more well rounded in our foods today plus added milk thistle. I am

researching more legal things to support the liver- well supposed to

be, but reading the list's posts right now!

We'll see how it goes tonight, but regardless, we are still planning

on hanging in for the long haul as this diet makes so much sense for

Cody.

Janet, (existing on very little sleep), mom to Cody- 5 years old-

SCD since 4-17-06- back to intro 5-21-06- multi food allergies, MB12

shots 1 1/2 yrs, dairy & soy free 4 yrs, gluten free 2 yrs, etc etc

etc......

>

> Janet,

> Not sure if this helps.... but remember that sometimes the cravings

are coming from the bad-guy gut pathogens.... that are DESPERATE for

what they need to survive... and are sending those craving messages to

try to get those starches and sugars, at all costs. They sort of take

over and try to control the kid's behavior in and all-out effort to

survive. Helps to think of it that way, sometimes. Sometimes it's

those last " hold outs " ... the really persistant and resistant gut bugs

that have the most powerful influence. Hang in there!

>

> Patti, mom to Katera

May 25, 2006