RE: Kayla -- Rage and aggression

March 29, 2006

Enzymes could help. No Fenol in particular.

You could also just try replacing the strawberries with something like

mango that is lower in salicylates and see how that goes.

You could replace the pineapple with some golden delicious applesauce.

I would be sure to " drip " the applesauce (the way yogurt is dripped)

to make sure it's not so runny.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

March 29, 2006

Hi Antoinette,

This kind of aggression isn't normal at all and when you solve the problem

you'll see how sweet your girl really is. My daughter was always completely

" unreachable " after eating one of her " aggressive foods " so discipline etc.

was completely ineffective. The only thing that worked was (sigh) time for

the food to " wear off " . My daughter still gets mad, yes, but only rarely

hits or hollers or whatever, and is reachable when she does. The wild rage

days are long gone.

I solved the problem by eliminating the foods that caused the problem.

That was before I heard of Houston enzymes. I haven't tried the No Fenol

enzymes for my daughter (I did have them tested kinesiologically and the

result was " neither beneficial nor harmful " ) so I can't say for sure that

they'd enable her to eat the " aggressive foods " without getting aggressive,

However, another parent on this list just posted that No Fenol enabled her

kids to eat foods they'd had to avoid before, now after some time on SCD,

the kids can eat those foods without enzymes and do ok. Houston does good

work, and makes good enzymes, so I think No Fenol is worth a try, if you

want to keep feeding KiKi the problem foods. You could call Devin Houston

himself and talk to him before trying the enzymes, if you want; I'm sure

he'd be helpful. www.houstonni.com

Salicylates...Almonds are extremely high in salicylates; also in oxalates,

another kind of chemical that can cause gut trouble, pain, and behavior

problems. I don't know whether the No Fenol enzymes help with oxalates --

you could ask Devin Houston this. Strawberries are high salicylate and high

oxalate. Pineapple is high salicylate but low oxalate. I do know that the

usual problem with salicylates is that the liver detox pathways can't handle

them well enough; with the right kind of supplements, or with good nutrition

and gut healing from a long time on SCD, the liver detox pathways can start

working better and the salicylate sensitivity can decrease or disappear.

(There may also be a hereditary form of salicylate intolerance -- my own

doctor thought so -- in that case, I don't know whether you could reduce or

eliminate the problem.) I don't know details about what supplements can

help, but Willis Langford (on the web) has info about this if you want to

pursue it. Supplements, though, can be tricky -- some irritate the gut.

About almonds -- Again you could try the No Fenol, but if I were you I'd

just eliminate almonds for now and keep them out of the diet for at least a

couple of months before trying again, even with No Fenol. Also, if I were

in your shoes, since KiKi's diarrhea and night terrors have gone more than

24 hours since almond-eating, I would put her back on the introductory diet

til her gut and behavior and sleep are really well settled down again. Then

build the diet back up to where you were. Remember, with really bad gut

reactions like the celiac reaction to gluten, gut recovery can take *weeks*.

So I think it's best to allow lots of time for recovery, when there's a

" mishap " , rather than trying to rush. " The slower you go, the faster you

get there. " (This is just my opinion, though, and there are lots of people

with more SCD experience than me on this list who might have a different

opinion, based on their own experience!)

You know, raw nuts have enzyme inhibitors in them; these can block our

digestive enzymes and make nuts hard to digest. I don't know whether the

enzyme inhibitors are de-activated by baking, but I know they're deactivated

by soaking the nuts in water so I always soak almonds 24 to 48 hours before

eating raw or baking with them. Same with all other nuts. Maybe this would

help, too, but it wouldn't solve the salicylate or oxalate problem.

I don't think rotating and/or limiting amounts is a solution for the

aggressive reaction to foods, though you could " limit the damage " somewhat

that way, I guess. Fewer scratches on Bubbles's face, and longer to recover

between scratching episodes? Naw, that's not what you want. You want no

scratches at all.

Yeast overgrowth certainly strains the liver detox pathways. When yeast is

less of a problem, liver detox pathways will have more capacity to deal with

salicylates and oxalates. During die-off, salicylate and oxalate reactions

are likely to be more severe, I think.

I think you'll be able to solve this aggression problem by adjusting diet,

maybe using enzymes. Drugs for seizures or behavior control? Just say no!

This is the best I can do to answer your questions. I'm sure others on the

list will have helpful information for you, too.

Kayla

March 29, 2006

Dear Kayla,

Thank you so very much for spending time explaining this to us! We are taking

these things out...three night in a row with these horrible delirium night

terror seizure like episodes...she's not going to eat it until back on to the

sweet girl we saw emerge before the almonds and all the KiKi cake/strawberries

and Bubble cake/pineapples! BACK TO INTRO WE GO! YEAH....I like what you

said....the slower you go.....the fast you get there! THANK YOU AGAIN! I get

so impatient and want to JUMP tooooooo fast!

Sincerely, the both of us, Antoinette and (hubby), day 37 entire family

scdiet.

RE: Kayla -- Rage and aggression

Hi Antoinette,

This kind of aggression isn't normal at all and when you solve the

problem