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Leigh Anne,

I am responding kind of late to your message, but just wanted to re-post a

couple of things that we posted here on this list a few years ago, regarding SCD

and yeast. Here is the first, and I will post the others separately in new

messages. Hope it helps... -Patti

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The list moderators have put their heads together in the past week to pull

together all the information we have, together with the experiences of many of

the SCD families, and the advice of Elaine Gottschall, in order to come up with

a clear statement on the issue of yeast. Here's what we've come up with. It will

be posted on the website for newcomers and future reference. We do want to

stress that it would be mistaken to say that SCD makes yeast worse in general...

or in the long run.... but, only that it can become an issue at first.

Hopefully, this will make the reasons a little clearer. Thanks to everyone who

gave their input. Here's the statement:

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We do occasionally see yeast flare ups when starting SCD. This should be a

temporary increase. As lots of pathogenic bacteria are the first to die off by

not feeding them with starches and sugars, yeast will attempt to take up that

empty space initially. By giving either powerful homemade SCD yogurt or

excellent probiotics, one can *usually* avoid this situation.

For those with yeast overgrowth...

" It is wise to cut back on honey ingestion at the beginning of the dietary

regimen (amount of honey in recipes should be decreased by at least 75%). The

amount

of honey may be increased as the condition improves. " (quote taken from BTVC)

We have found that using some form of probiotic is also helpful. Probiotics can

take the form of yogurt (made from goat, cow or nut milk), other fermented foods

(such as HOMEMADE sauerkraut or kimchi) or probiotic powder or capsules (in case

the child is not yet ready for any yogurts).

Ensuring that all vegetables and fruits foods are peeled and cooked at the

beginning is also helpful in controlling yeast overgrowth. Undigested foods can

feed microbes and delay healing.

The use of anti-fungals may be necessary. Some natural anti-fungals include:

homemade carrot juice and garlic, oil of oregano, grapefruit seed extract (GSE)

with or without enzymes. Some decide to go with prescription anti-fungals such

as Nystatin. If using both a probiotic (or yogurt) and an anti-fungal, be sure

to give them at separate times in order to preserve the live beneficial

bacteria.

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Intro and " Is SCD right for us? "

Hello listmates,

I am Leigh Anne, mother to 3 year old ASD son and 11 month old

daughter. To make a long story short, I was on antibiotics daily for

7 years! Crazy, I know. Plus I have a mouthful of amalgam

fillings. My immune system, and therefore the immune systems of my

two children, is very weak. Both have lots of tummy issues.

But the primary problem is...we have yeast. Some sort of super

strain of candida. Both kids have yeast diaper rash, yeast BM's. My

dh and I have yeast issues too.

I have read BTVC and Elaine does mention the diet as a candida

treatment. But I'm worried about the fruit and the honey.

If I eliminate the fruit and the honey, my son is limited to eating

meat and vegetables. (He can't tolerate dairy or nuts yet, he can

have a little egg but not daily). He is tall and very very skinny.

He can't afford to lose more than a pound. The only way he currently

eats veggies is through the juicer. My dd is breastfed, and she is a

bit stockier, so she could do okay on just meat and veg.

Candida success stories anybody? Ideas for keeping weight on a very

skinny little boy?

Best,

Leigh Anne

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