Re: Getting ready to start SCD

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome...

Have you gone to the Pecanbread.com website? There is a lot of beginner

information there about doing SCD for kids on the spectrum.

LOTS of the kids begin this diet as " picky eaters " .... in fact, the website has

an entire section devoted to that topic! Happy reading!

Patti, mom to Katera

Getting ready to start SCD

My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we are

going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all his

supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can tell

me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and have done

some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can give me

a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We are on

the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and egg. I

feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet is so

limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

My daughter is also on the spectrum. She was diagnosed with malabsorption and

celiac. Before we had joined Pecan Bread we had opted to do the diet by the

book. When we arrived she too had many sensitivities. We chose to believe

Elaine's book and if it didn't cause anaphylaxis reaction we didn't worry so

much about these sensitivities.

According to BTVC they vanish once the gut heals. And she does not believe that

they are " true " allergies. This is exactly what happened with us. If you are

like us, the foods that cause the most problems you truly need to avoid. But

realize that you will more than likely be able to introduce them 3 to 6 months

into this way of eating if it is not a deadly reaction. We are three months out

and many foods that she was " allergic " to are now well tolerated.

I personally have discovered that the yogurt is a GOD SEND. It caused such a

good die off that once that initial die off was over my daughter began to try to

talk, had imaginative play and smiled socially for the first time. It also a

much needed way to introduce the probiotics in numbers that are extremely high

and beneficial.

We too, came to this with the mind set of GFCFSF and even had attempted other

plans that did not work. I was terrified about the casein in diary. I

discovered that the yogurt if fermented the way the BTVC book says to is

rendered harmless. Some say go slow at introducing it. We didn't know to do

this, and in a way I am glad, because the die off caused by ingesting large

amounts brought about a change in my daughter that was profound. We continue to

eat bowl fulls. It is our hope that our daughter may loose her diagnosis. She

is truly a different child now.

Not all may want to do it this " fast " , but this is what Elaine says to do in her

book so we did it and are reaping the benefits.

Are DAN! doctor is now truly an observer of success. We have not needed much of

his help anymore. We do not use enzymes, and at this point in her healing her

digestion has returned to normal.

Hope this helps, feel free to contact me off list for advice to how to handle

the die off or other concerns you may have.

Antoinette

(mother to KiKi-2 and healing by " just " using the book and following the

suggestion of " fanatical adherence " pg. 68 chapter 9 from BTVC and the SCDiet

in the same way that has been implemented for 60 years, with success.)

Getting ready to start SCD

My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we are

going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all his

supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can tell

me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and have done

some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can give me

a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We are on

the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and egg. I

feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet is so

limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Oh I forgot to tell you that our son started SCDiet as a " carbohydrate junky "

too! lol He didn't think it was all that funny though. Once the initial die

off was over his cravings changed to wanting SCD foods. It was difficult during

this transition. He had to live through humongous cravings.

During this transition, he was irritable and threatened to never eat again.

Would throw tantrums and have rage attacks at the table.

We use the neighbor to act as his doctor that we would call by phone to speak to

him. I don't know what age your son is. This helped, threatening to call the

" doctor " . Once his gut got back into balance like magic....our " carb boy "

vanished....and so did his ADHD behavior and rage attacks. THANK GOD.

Antoinette

(SCD 2/06; mother to /CD/ADHD-4 years, Kiki CD/autistic-2 years and

Bubbles/hyperekplexia-1 years entire family of five SCD and healing when no

other way worked.)

Getting ready to start SCD

My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we are

going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all his

supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can tell

me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and have done

some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can give me

a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We are on

the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and egg. I

feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet is so

limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Get the GAPS Book!!

Agape,

denisedhillon wrote:

My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we are

going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all his

supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can tell

me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and have done

some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can give me

a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We are on

the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and egg. I

feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet is so

limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

While a bit of your postings seems a bit off the wall for my taste,

I must agree with one statement in particular at 100%... the yogurt

(fermented 24 hours) is a God send... The healthy die off reaction

and as I see it... " push through " of the nasty funk in Joe's

intestines is a great effect...

Please don't take this the wrong way, you're just a bit

too " excitable " about SCD for me, who's been following SCD since

last October with results, but nothing " miraculous " in nature. My

son is autistic... I don't deny that... and it's a long hard road

for my son. There is no quick fix...

-Carol

>

> Dear ,

>

> My daughter is also on the spectrum. She was diagnosed with

malabsorption and celiac. Before we had joined Pecan Bread we had

opted to do the diet by the book. When we arrived she too had many

sensitivities. We chose to believe Elaine's book and if it didn't

cause anaphylaxis reaction we didn't worry so much about these

sensitivities.

>

> According to BTVC they vanish once the gut heals. And she does

not believe that they are " true " allergies. This is exactly what

happened with us. If you are like us, the foods that cause the most

problems you truly need to avoid. But realize that you will more

than likely be able to introduce them 3 to 6 months into this way of

eating if it is not a deadly reaction. We are three months out and

many foods that she was " allergic " to are now well tolerated.

>

> I personally have discovered that the yogurt is a GOD SEND. It

caused such a good die off that once that initial die off was over

my daughter began to try to talk, had imaginative play and smiled

socially for the first time. It also a much needed way to introduce

the probiotics in numbers that are extremely high and beneficial.

>

> We too, came to this with the mind set of GFCFSF and even had

attempted other plans that did not work. I was terrified about the

casein in diary. I discovered that the yogurt if fermented the way

the BTVC book says to is rendered harmless. Some say go slow at

introducing it. We didn't know to do this, and in a way I am glad,

because the die off caused by ingesting large amounts brought about

a change in my daughter that was profound. We continue to eat bowl

fulls. It is our hope that our daughter may loose her diagnosis.

She is truly a different child now.

>

> Not all may want to do it this " fast " , but this is what Elaine

says to do in her book so we did it and are reaping the benefits.

>

> Are DAN! doctor is now truly an observer of success. We have not

needed much of his help anymore. We do not use enzymes, and at this

point in her healing her digestion has returned to normal.

>

> Hope this helps, feel free to contact me off list for advice to

how to handle the die off or other concerns you may have.

>

> Antoinette

>

> (mother to KiKi-2 and healing by " just " using the book and

following the suggestion of " fanatical adherence " pg. 68 chapter 9

from BTVC and the SCDiet in the same way that has been implemented

for 60 years, with success.)

> Getting ready to start SCD

>

>

> My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we

are

> going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all

his

> supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can

tell

> me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and

have done

> some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can

give me

> a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We

are on

> the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and

egg. I

> feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet

is so

> limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

> my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Carol!

That was a bit of a nasty e-mail you just sent. It makes me a little

nervous to send posts!

SCD 11+ months

-- Re: Getting ready to start SCD

While a bit of your postings seems a bit off the wall for my taste,

I must agree with one statement in particular at 100%... the yogurt

(fermented 24 hours) is a God send... The healthy die off reaction

and as I see it... " push through " of the nasty funk in Joe's

intestines is a great effect...

Please don't take this the wrong way, you're just a bit

too " excitable " about SCD for me, who's been following SCD since

last October with results, but nothing " miraculous " in nature. My

son is autistic... I don't deny that... and it's a long hard road

for my son. There is no quick fix...

-Carol

>

> Dear ,

>

> My daughter is also on the spectrum. She was diagnosed with

malabsorption and celiac. Before we had joined Pecan Bread we had

opted to do the diet by the book. When we arrived she too had many

sensitivities. We chose to believe Elaine's book and if it didn't

cause anaphylaxis reaction we didn't worry so much about these

sensitivities.

>

> According to BTVC they vanish once the gut heals. And she does

not believe that they are " true " allergies. This is exactly what

happened with us. If you are like us, the foods that cause the most

problems you truly need to avoid. But realize that you will more

than likely be able to introduce them 3 to 6 months into this way of

eating if it is not a deadly reaction. We are three months out and

many foods that she was " allergic " to are now well tolerated.

>

> I personally have discovered that the yogurt is a GOD SEND. It

caused such a good die off that once that initial die off was over

my daughter began to try to talk, had imaginative play and smiled

socially for the first time. It also a much needed way to introduce

the probiotics in numbers that are extremely high and beneficial.

>

> We too, came to this with the mind set of GFCFSF and even had

attempted other plans that did not work. I was terrified about the

casein in diary. I discovered that the yogurt if fermented the way

the BTVC book says to is rendered harmless. Some say go slow at

introducing it. We didn't know to do this, and in a way I am glad,

because the die off caused by ingesting large amounts brought about

a change in my daughter that was profound. We continue to eat bowl

fulls. It is our hope that our daughter may loose her diagnosis.

She is truly a different child now.

>

> Not all may want to do it this " fast " , but this is what Elaine

says to do in her book so we did it and are reaping the benefits.

>

> Are DAN! doctor is now truly an observer of success. We have not

needed much of his help anymore. We do not use enzymes, and at this

point in her healing her digestion has returned to normal.

>

> Hope this helps, feel free to contact me off list for advice to

how to handle the die off or other concerns you may have.

>

> Antoinette

>

> (mother to KiKi-2 and healing by " just " using the book and

following the suggestion of " fanatical adherence " pg. 68 chapter 9

from BTVC and the SCDiet in the same way that has been implemented

for 60 years, with success.)

> Getting ready to start SCD

>

>

> My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we

are

> going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all

his

> supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can

tell

> me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and

have done

> some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can

give me

> a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We

are on

> the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and

egg. I

> feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet

is so

> limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

> my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Carol, and to all that my " excited-ness " bothers. I am truly sorry that

you have not had the success that we are witnessing. But please do not take it

out on me. It is truly hard to not get excited when one witnessed their baby

coming back to them. I want to give hope to the new comer just like those gave

me hope when we where new.

Mimi thinks that it is because she is young and a girl...that we are having

success implementing this strict SCDiet. She had a similar experience with her

daughter. I truly feel for you, but please realize that what you said was

hurtful.

Like said: Wow Carol!

That was a bit of a nasty e-mail you just sent. It makes me a little

nervous to send posts!

SCD 11+ months

It makes all of us

Please don't do this any more. We all need to be relaxed here, and feel safe

here. And not attacked any more.

God Bless all, Antoinette

(mother of 2 year old KiKi (celiac, autistic, healing when no other way worked)

[Guest guest]

Wow - I read the post this replies to and it is very logical - not off the

wall at all.

SCD saved my son's colon. I can't help but be excited about that! We did a

couple other interventions but without SCD none of it would have worked. It

was not over night success, but success none the less and with the most

amazing outcome I could have imagined - complete remission! And we learned

the hard way that without 100% compliance it just isn't as effective and in

fact, in the end would have made SCD a waste of time.

Robbie

Getting ready to start SCD

>

>

> My son's DAN doctor recomended that I join this group because we

are

> going to be starting the SCD very soon. We are just getting all

his

> supplements in order first. I just wanted to know if anyone can

tell

> me the best way to start this. I have read Elaine's book and

have done

> some research on line. I was just wondering if any of you can

give me

> a little more info since you are all involved as we speak. We

are on

> the GF/CF DIET ALONG WITH OTHER ALLERGIES: peanut, soy, and

egg. I

> feel as though he will not be able to eat anything and his diet

is so

> limited now and he is very, very, very, picky eater. I call him

> my " CARB. BOY " . Any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I could think of several things I would love to post, but as another

pointed out, as a mother of 4 children, ages 14, 5-1/2, 4, and 2

years old, my 4 year old having autism, and all the cooking that

goes along with this... I simply don't have the time to post such

lengthy diaries. I have nothing against you personally, as I don't

know you, and as everyone knows, everyone is unique in their

personality, not everyone is made to " get along " or even agree. The

point in my post is this...

The Yogurt is a point of agreeance... it has helped my son,

especially w/ bowel regularity.

Nuts... are hard to digest in certain formats and we use them

sparingly (for treats and special meals like pizza).

Bananas... cause black flecks and a bit of irritability (for some,

not all)

Enzymes... I love my son taking his enzymes due to again, his bowel

movements. We gradually reduce the amount until we have a " flare

up " and then we increase as needed, periodically in accordance with

a flare up of some kind.

Epsom salt baths... great for calming.

I am not an advocate for claiming anything is a " cure all " for

autism. It gives a sense of false hope and what parents need most

is to know that while they may not see a cure overnight, there is a

gradual healing and long process. Your posts... are a bit lengthy,

but I don't gripe... I simply expressed my opinion that while I

don't normally agree with everything you post, I felt compelled to

agree about the yogurt.

I don't post often... I won't judge, I simply expressed an opinion,

that is part of a message board. And I do have a soapbox against

those who feel the " sole " reason for not seeing " miracles " is due to

lack of true devotion, but I'll let that one sleep, because it

wastes everyone's time to argue about a moot point.

[Guest guest]

I could think of several things I would love to post, but as another

pointed out, as a mother of 4 children, ages 14, 5-1/2, 4, and 2

years old, my 4 year old having autism, and all the cooking that

goes along with this... I simply don't have the time to post such

lengthy diaries. I have nothing against you personally, as I don't

know you, and as everyone knows, everyone is unique in their

personality, not everyone is made to " get along " or even agree. The

point in my post is this...

The Yogurt is a point of agreeance... it has helped my son,

especially w/ bowel regularity.

Nuts... are hard to digest in certain formats and we use them

sparingly (for treats and special meals like pizza).

Bananas... cause black flecks and a bit of irritability (for some,

not all)

Enzymes... I love my son taking his enzymes due to again, his bowel

movements. We gradually reduce the amount until we have a " flare

up " and then we increase as needed, periodically in accordance with

a flare up of some kind.

Epsom salt baths... great for calming.

I am not an advocate for claiming anything is a " cure all " for

autism. It gives a sense of false hope and what parents need most

is to know that while they may not see a cure overnight, there is a

gradual healing and long process. Your posts... are a bit lengthy,

but I don't gripe... I simply expressed my opinion that while I

don't normally agree with everything you post, I felt compelled to

agree about the yogurt.

I don't post often... I won't judge, I simply expressed an opinion,

that is part of a message board. And I do have a soapbox against

those who feel the " sole " reason for not seeing " miracles " is due to

lack of true devotion, but I'll let that one sleep, because it

wastes everyone's time to argue about a moot point.

[Guest guest]

Carol,

Well said.

Agape,

Carol wrote:

I could think of several things I would love to post, but as another

pointed out, as a mother of 4 children, ages 14, 5-1/2, 4, and 2

years old, my 4 year old having autism, and all the cooking that

goes along with this... I simply don't have the time to post such

lengthy diaries. I have nothing against you personally, as I don't

know you, and as everyone knows, everyone is unique in their

personality, not everyone is made to " get along " or even agree. The

point in my post is this...

The Yogurt is a point of agreeance... it has helped my son,

especially w/ bowel regularity.

Nuts... are hard to digest in certain formats and we use them

sparingly (for treats and special meals like pizza).

Bananas... cause black flecks and a bit of irritability (for some,

not all)

Enzymes... I love my son taking his enzymes due to again, his bowel

movements. We gradually reduce the amount until we have a " flare

up " and then we increase as needed, periodically in accordance with

a flare up of some kind.

Epsom salt baths... great for calming.

I am not an advocate for claiming anything is a " cure all " for

autism. It gives a sense of false hope and what parents need most

is to know that while they may not see a cure overnight, there is a

gradual healing and long process. Your posts... are a bit lengthy,

but I don't gripe... I simply expressed my opinion that while I

don't normally agree with everything you post, I felt compelled to

agree about the yogurt.

I don't post often... I won't judge, I simply expressed an opinion,

that is part of a message board. And I do have a soapbox against

those who feel the " sole " reason for not seeing " miracles " is due to

lack of true devotion, but I'll let that one sleep, because it

wastes everyone's time to argue about a moot point.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com