Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hey Suzanne, My son Toren did over 60 hours of HBOT. I definitely think the oxygen therapies (blood ozone also) are very healing. Another technology that works well with it is www.magneticosleep.com 20 guass sleep pad; no monetary benefit for me, just healing, rest and peace. It helps chelate and reduce stimming. Fred and Tammy- Whwere are you guys? I'm in Lubbock, Tx. Agape, Suzanne wrote: We have just completed our first two HBOT sessions. So far, Tom is sleeping MUCH better than normal (11 and 10 hours a night, respectively, with only one waking per night, rather than 8 or 9 hours with many wakings). I hope this indicates a reduction in his GI inflammation, which is our highest hope for the HBOT therapy. We are excited to be doing HBOT! It seems to be a potentially promising therapy for gut inflammation and brain inflammation. Suzanne > > I am the Clinic Director for a clinic in Texas that specializes in the treatment of brain injury with hyperbaric oxygen therapy. Typically the protocol for brain injury (which includes autism) will call for 40 treatments. I have seen some autistic patients do very well with it but perhaps stopping at 20 treatments didn't allow the HBO to fully do its job. > > I heard a doctor once say that when you are remodeling a house, things get pretty ugly before they get better. He said you tear down walls, rip up flooring, sheetrock - and then you begin cleaning up before you actually lay tile floors, paint and wallpaper etc... He said that the construction process can be messy but when you are done, it never looks the same. He related the whole thing to my son and how sometimes in order to get better, you might see a temporary worsening of things. > > It sounds like you may have had some of that going on. Each child and each brain injury are different, so it is hard to say what was really going on for sure right now. Blessings, Tammy > > Message: 21 > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:36:51 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Re: OT: dilated pupils > > It sounds like the HBOT did some " chelating " of sorts (which is one of the things that it is supposed to help with as well as killing bad bacteria in the gut . . . maybe why your son was " yeasty " for a time . . it could have been " die-off). It does sound like you have more metals in there, and only you can decide what is the best course of action or maybe " non-action " concerning that. > > Apparently, though, this adjustment in the pupils can happen with even just a little bit of " metals moving. " My son, , is not chelating in the true sense. He is using PCA-RX spray to pull his metals. It is not a true chelator, but is showing a lot of promise as a low or no-risk way to detox (it doesn't pull out the minerals, but does pull out the metals quite well in some individuals). Anyway, has only been using this spray a few weeks, and he is no where near his full dosage. However, Dr. Megson could already see some improvement in his pupils' reactions to light last week at our appointment. She seemed very pleased with his progress. > > I hope our experience gives you a little something to go on. I am sorry that you didn't see more progress with your HBOT treatments. I don't have the answer to that one since it is so new and everyone is just figuring out where this fits into the spectrum picture. It could be that your son needs more dives. And it could be that his symptoms were a result of the " die-off " that is supposed to occur. And, also, it seems apparent that you stirred up some metals without getting them all out. The symptoms could be a result of the remaining metals redistributing themselves in his system again. Just some guesses . . . I certainly am no doctor. > > Good luck in your continued journey! > > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems) > SCD 2 months > mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy metal toxicity) > , 3 yr. (risk for add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy metal toxicity) > Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity) > SCD 4 months > Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > I have to chime in on the topic of dialated pupils, because we have had a weird > experience with this issue. No one takes this experience seriously, but as his mother > who looks into his eyes everyday, I notice a change. > > My son always had very large pupils. This seems to be related to if he was actually > focusing on something or not. Was he staring or actually looking. > > In spite of this, he has always been a very high functioning child. We have done diet, > supplements, ABA, Methyl B12 injections etc..... Now at age 5, he is caught up (even > ahead) in many developmental areas. He lags behind in motor skills and has sensory > issues. I know he was mercury damaged, but we have never chelated. ly, I have > been to afraid of the regression that usually takes place. He has done so well, I just > can't imagine watching him go backwards. > > Anyway, the weird part about dialated pupils .... In January right after he turned Five, > we went to a Hyperbarics Center in another state, and did 20 " dives " in 2 weeks. Now > I don't think that was the best way to do it, because he seemed to actually be less > focused in general, got a little yeasty, and diarhea. (I did teach him to play chess > while we were in the chamber.) Anyway, after we had been home for a week or so. I > noticed that his pupils seem to be more normal size, and reacted to changes in light > more normally. He still has sensory issues -- maybe more than before. His motor > skills have not really improved. I believe we are still dealing with metals. He is > continuing to learn very well, and is starting to read a little. > > I just don't know what to think about this experience. Any ideas? > Amy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 HBOT is great. It helped my son with so many things, joint attention, auditory processing, and comprehension. How much is the sleep pad? Thanks, Kathrina > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Re: HBOT!/ Tammy and Fred >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) > >Hey Suzanne, > My son Toren did over 60 hours of HBOT. > I definitely think the oxygen therapies (blood ozone also) are very >healing. >Another technology that works well with it is www.magneticosleep.com 20 >guass sleep pad; no monetary benefit for me, just healing, rest and peace. >It helps chelate and reduce stimming. > > Fred and Tammy- > Whwere are you guys? I'm in Lubbock, Tx. > > Agape, > >Suzanne wrote: > We have just completed our first two HBOT sessions. So far, Tom is >sleeping MUCH better than normal (11 and 10 hours a night, >respectively, with only one waking per night, rather than 8 or 9 >hours with many wakings). I hope this indicates a reduction in his >GI inflammation, which is our highest hope for the HBOT therapy. > >We are excited to be doing HBOT! It seems to be a potentially >promising therapy for gut inflammation and brain inflammation. >Suzanne > > > > > > I am the Clinic Director for a clinic in Texas that specializes in >the treatment of brain injury with hyperbaric oxygen therapy. >Typically the protocol for brain injury (which includes autism) will >call for 40 treatments. I have seen some autistic patients do very >well with it but perhaps stopping at 20 treatments didn't allow the >HBO to fully do its job. > > > > I heard a doctor once say that when you are remodeling a house, >things get pretty ugly before they get better. He said you tear >down walls, rip up flooring, sheetrock - and then you begin cleaning >up before you actually lay tile floors, paint and wallpaper etc... >He said that the construction process can be messy but when you are >done, it never looks the same. He related the whole thing to my son >and how sometimes in order to get better, you might see a temporary >worsening of things. > > > > It sounds like you may have had some of that going on. Each child >and each brain injury are different, so it is hard to say what was >really going on for sure right now. Blessings, Tammy > > > > Message: 21 > > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:36:51 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > > It sounds like the HBOT did some " chelating " of sorts (which is >one of the things that it is supposed to help with as well as >killing bad bacteria in the gut . . . maybe why your son >was " yeasty " for a time . . it could have been " die-off). It does >sound like you have more metals in there, and only you can decide >what is the best course of action or maybe " non-action " concerning >that. > > > > Apparently, though, this adjustment in the pupils can happen with >even just a little bit of " metals moving. " My son, , is not >chelating in the true sense. He is using PCA-RX spray to pull his >metals. It is not a true chelator, but is showing a lot of promise >as a low or no-risk way to detox (it doesn't pull out the minerals, >but does pull out the metals quite well in some individuals). >Anyway, has only been using this spray a few weeks, and he is >no where near his full dosage. However, Dr. Megson could already >see some improvement in his pupils' reactions to light last week at >our appointment. She seemed very pleased with his progress. > > > > I hope our experience gives you a little something to go on. I am >sorry that you didn't see more progress with your HBOT treatments. >I don't have the answer to that one since it is so new and everyone >is just figuring out where this fits into the spectrum picture. It >could be that your son needs more dives. And it could be that his >symptoms were a result of the " die-off " that is supposed to occur. >And, also, it seems apparent that you stirred up some metals without >getting them all out. The symptoms could be a result of the >remaining metals redistributing themselves in his system again. >Just some guesses . . . I certainly am no doctor. > > > > Good luck in your continued journey! > > > > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems) > > SCD 2 months > > mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy >metal toxicity) > > , 3 yr. (risk for add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy >metal toxicity) > > Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity) > > SCD 4 months > > Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > > > > I have to chime in on the topic of dialated pupils, because we >have had a weird > > experience with this issue. No one takes this experience >seriously, but as his mother > > who looks into his eyes everyday, I notice a change. > > > > My son always had very large pupils. This seems to be related to >if he was actually > > focusing on something or not. Was he staring or actually >looking. > > > > In spite of this, he has always been a very high functioning >child. We have done diet, > > supplements, ABA, Methyl B12 injections etc..... Now at age 5, >he is caught up (even > > ahead) in many developmental areas. He lags behind in motor >skills and has sensory > > issues. I know he was mercury damaged, but we have never >chelated. ly, I have > > been to afraid of the regression that usually takes place. He >has done so well, I just > > can't imagine watching him go backwards. > > > > Anyway, the weird part about dialated pupils .... In January >right after he turned Five, > > we went to a Hyperbarics Center in another state, and did >20 " dives " in 2 weeks. Now > > I don't think that was the best way to do it, because he seemed >to actually be less > > focused in general, got a little yeasty, and diarhea. (I did >teach him to play chess > > while we were in the chamber.) Anyway, after we had been home >for a week or so. I > > noticed that his pupils seem to be more normal size, and reacted >to changes in light > > more normally. He still has sensory issues -- maybe more than >before. His motor > > skills have not really improved. I believe we are still dealing >with metals. He is > > continuing to learn very well, and is starting to read a little. > > > > I just don't know what to think about this experience. Any ideas? > > Amy > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 www.magneticosleep.com 20 gauss sleep pad systems are different prices based on the size of your bed, and whether you get 5, 10, or 20 gauss...relatively expensive but, imho, SCD and the sleep pad are the two most important things you do for your child... it's passive and s/he is getting it for 8-10 hours... it chelates and heals... it is compatible with and supportive of all other treatments. You will notice a difference within a week. Go to the website ... talk with Dr. Bonlie ...get the free info packet with DVD. Agape, Kathrina Chin wrote: HBOT is great. It helped my son with so many things, joint attention, auditory processing, and comprehension. How much is the sleep pad? Thanks, Kathrina > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Re: HBOT!/ Tammy and Fred >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) > >Hey Suzanne, > My son Toren did over 60 hours of HBOT. > I definitely think the oxygen therapies (blood ozone also) are very >healing. >Another technology that works well with it is www.magneticosleep.com 20 >guass sleep pad; no monetary benefit for me, just healing, rest and peace. >It helps chelate and reduce stimming. > > Fred and Tammy- > Whwere are you guys? I'm in Lubbock, Tx. > > Agape, > >Suzanne wrote: > We have just completed our first two HBOT sessions. So far, Tom is >sleeping MUCH better than normal (11 and 10 hours a night, >respectively, with only one waking per night, rather than 8 or 9 >hours with many wakings). I hope this indicates a reduction in his >GI inflammation, which is our highest hope for the HBOT therapy. > >We are excited to be doing HBOT! It seems to be a potentially >promising therapy for gut inflammation and brain inflammation. >Suzanne > > > > > > I am the Clinic Director for a clinic in Texas that specializes in >the treatment of brain injury with hyperbaric oxygen therapy. >Typically the protocol for brain injury (which includes autism) will >call for 40 treatments. I have seen some autistic patients do very >well with it but perhaps stopping at 20 treatments didn't allow the >HBO to fully do its job. > > > > I heard a doctor once say that when you are remodeling a house, >things get pretty ugly before they get better. He said you tear >down walls, rip up flooring, sheetrock - and then you begin cleaning >up before you actually lay tile floors, paint and wallpaper etc... >He said that the construction process can be messy but when you are >done, it never looks the same. He related the whole thing to my son >and how sometimes in order to get better, you might see a temporary >worsening of things. > > > > It sounds like you may have had some of that going on. Each child >and each brain injury are different, so it is hard to say what was >really going on for sure right now. Blessings, Tammy > > > > Message: 21 > > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:36:51 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > > It sounds like the HBOT did some " chelating " of sorts (which is >one of the things that it is supposed to help with as well as >killing bad bacteria in the gut . . . maybe why your son >was " yeasty " for a time . . it could have been " die-off). It does >sound like you have more metals in there, and only you can decide >what is the best course of action or maybe " non-action " concerning >that. > > > > Apparently, though, this adjustment in the pupils can happen with >even just a little bit of " metals moving. " My son, , is not >chelating in the true sense. He is using PCA-RX spray to pull his >metals. It is not a true chelator, but is showing a lot of promise >as a low or no-risk way to detox (it doesn't pull out the minerals, >but does pull out the metals quite well in some individuals). >Anyway, has only been using this spray a few weeks, and he is >no where near his full dosage. However, Dr. Megson could already >see some improvement in his pupils' reactions to light last week at >our appointment. She seemed very pleased with his progress. > > > > I hope our experience gives you a little something to go on. I am >sorry that you didn't see more progress with your HBOT treatments. >I don't have the answer to that one since it is so new and everyone >is just figuring out where this fits into the spectrum picture. It >could be that your son needs more dives. And it could be that his >symptoms were a result of the " die-off " that is supposed to occur. >And, also, it seems apparent that you stirred up some metals without >getting them all out. The symptoms could be a result of the >remaining metals redistributing themselves in his system again. >Just some guesses . . . I certainly am no doctor. > > > > Good luck in your continued journey! > > > > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems) > > SCD 2 months > > mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy >metal toxicity) > > , 3 yr. (risk for add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy >metal toxicity) > > Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity) > > SCD 4 months > > Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > > > > I have to chime in on the topic of dialated pupils, because we >have had a weird > > experience with this issue. No one takes this experience >seriously, but as his mother > > who looks into his eyes everyday, I notice a change. > > > > My son always had very large pupils. This seems to be related to >if he was actually > > focusing on something or not. Was he staring or actually >looking. > > > > In spite of this, he has always been a very high functioning >child. We have done diet, > > supplements, ABA, Methyl B12 injections etc..... Now at age 5, >he is caught up (even > > ahead) in many developmental areas. He lags behind in motor >skills and has sensory > > issues. I know he was mercury damaged, but we have never >chelated. ly, I have > > been to afraid of the regression that usually takes place. He >has done so well, I just > > can't imagine watching him go backwards. > > > > Anyway, the weird part about dialated pupils .... In January >right after he turned Five, > > we went to a Hyperbarics Center in another state, and did >20 " dives " in 2 weeks. Now > > I don't think that was the best way to do it, because he seemed >to actually be less > > focused in general, got a little yeasty, and diarhea. (I did >teach him to play chess > > while we were in the chamber.) Anyway, after we had been home >for a week or so. I > > noticed that his pupils seem to be more normal size, and reacted >to changes in light > > more normally. He still has sensory issues -- maybe more than >before. His motor > > skills have not really improved. I believe we are still dealing >with metals. He is > > continuing to learn very well, and is starting to read a little. > > > > I just don't know what to think about this experience. Any ideas? > > Amy > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 www.magneticosleep.com 20 gauss sleep pad systems are different prices based on the size of your bed, and whether you get 5, 10, or 20 gauss...relatively expensive but, imho, SCD and the sleep pad are the two most important things you do for your child... it's passive and s/he is getting it for 8-10 hours... it chelates and heals... it is compatible with and supportive of all other treatments. You will notice a difference within a week. Go to the website ... talk with Dr. Bonlie ...get the free info packet with DVD. Agape, Kathrina Chin wrote: HBOT is great. It helped my son with so many things, joint attention, auditory processing, and comprehension. How much is the sleep pad? Thanks, Kathrina > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Re: HBOT!/ Tammy and Fred >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) > >Hey Suzanne, > My son Toren did over 60 hours of HBOT. > I definitely think the oxygen therapies (blood ozone also) are very >healing. >Another technology that works well with it is www.magneticosleep.com 20 >guass sleep pad; no monetary benefit for me, just healing, rest and peace. >It helps chelate and reduce stimming. > > Fred and Tammy- > Whwere are you guys? I'm in Lubbock, Tx. > > Agape, > >Suzanne wrote: > We have just completed our first two HBOT sessions. So far, Tom is >sleeping MUCH better than normal (11 and 10 hours a night, >respectively, with only one waking per night, rather than 8 or 9 >hours with many wakings). I hope this indicates a reduction in his >GI inflammation, which is our highest hope for the HBOT therapy. > >We are excited to be doing HBOT! It seems to be a potentially >promising therapy for gut inflammation and brain inflammation. >Suzanne > > > > > > I am the Clinic Director for a clinic in Texas that specializes in >the treatment of brain injury with hyperbaric oxygen therapy. >Typically the protocol for brain injury (which includes autism) will >call for 40 treatments. I have seen some autistic patients do very >well with it but perhaps stopping at 20 treatments didn't allow the >HBO to fully do its job. > > > > I heard a doctor once say that when you are remodeling a house, >things get pretty ugly before they get better. He said you tear >down walls, rip up flooring, sheetrock - and then you begin cleaning >up before you actually lay tile floors, paint and wallpaper etc... >He said that the construction process can be messy but when you are >done, it never looks the same. He related the whole thing to my son >and how sometimes in order to get better, you might see a temporary >worsening of things. > > > > It sounds like you may have had some of that going on. Each child >and each brain injury are different, so it is hard to say what was >really going on for sure right now. Blessings, Tammy > > > > Message: 21 > > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:36:51 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > > It sounds like the HBOT did some " chelating " of sorts (which is >one of the things that it is supposed to help with as well as >killing bad bacteria in the gut . . . maybe why your son >was " yeasty " for a time . . it could have been " die-off). It does >sound like you have more metals in there, and only you can decide >what is the best course of action or maybe " non-action " concerning >that. > > > > Apparently, though, this adjustment in the pupils can happen with >even just a little bit of " metals moving. " My son, , is not >chelating in the true sense. He is using PCA-RX spray to pull his >metals. It is not a true chelator, but is showing a lot of promise >as a low or no-risk way to detox (it doesn't pull out the minerals, >but does pull out the metals quite well in some individuals). >Anyway, has only been using this spray a few weeks, and he is >no where near his full dosage. However, Dr. Megson could already >see some improvement in his pupils' reactions to light last week at >our appointment. She seemed very pleased with his progress. > > > > I hope our experience gives you a little something to go on. I am >sorry that you didn't see more progress with your HBOT treatments. >I don't have the answer to that one since it is so new and everyone >is just figuring out where this fits into the spectrum picture. It >could be that your son needs more dives. And it could be that his >symptoms were a result of the " die-off " that is supposed to occur. >And, also, it seems apparent that you stirred up some metals without >getting them all out. The symptoms could be a result of the >remaining metals redistributing themselves in his system again. >Just some guesses . . . I certainly am no doctor. > > > > Good luck in your continued journey! > > > > Jeni Lynn (gastrointestinal problems) > > SCD 2 months > > mom to Margeaux, 6 yr. (add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy >metal toxicity) > > , 3 yr. (risk for add, gastrointestinal problems, heavy >metal toxicity) > > Elle, 18 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity) > > SCD 4 months > > Re: OT: dilated pupils > > > > > > I have to chime in on the topic of dialated pupils, because we >have had a weird > > experience with this issue. No one takes this experience >seriously, but as his mother > > who looks into his eyes everyday, I notice a change. > > > > My son always had very large pupils. This seems to be related to >if he was actually > > focusing on something or not. Was he staring or actually >looking. > > > > In spite of this, he has always been a very high functioning >child. We have done diet, > > supplements, ABA, Methyl B12 injections etc..... Now at age 5, >he is caught up (even > > ahead) in many developmental areas. He lags behind in motor >skills and has sensory > > issues. I know he was mercury damaged, but we have never >chelated. ly, I have > > been to afraid of the regression that usually takes place. He >has done so well, I just > > can't imagine watching him go backwards. > > > > Anyway, the weird part about dialated pupils .... In January >right after he turned Five, > > we went to a Hyperbarics Center in another state, and did >20 " dives " in 2 weeks. Now > > I don't think that was the best way to do it, because he seemed >to actually be less > > focused in general, got a little yeasty, and diarhea. (I did >teach him to play chess > > while we were in the chamber.) Anyway, after we had been home >for a week or so. I > > noticed that his pupils seem to be more normal size, and reacted >to changes in light > > more normally. He still has sensory issues -- maybe more than >before. His motor > > skills have not really improved. I believe we are still dealing >with metals. He is > > continuing to learn very well, and is starting to read a little. > > > > I just don't know what to think about this experience. Any ideas? > > Amy > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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