Need list of SCD free enzymes ...are there any that are not aspergillus-derived?

[Guest guest]

I don't know a thing about enzymes. Can anybody help me figure out

where to start?

Our DAN has suggested a trial of enzymes, and Tom's poops are becoming

increasingly undigested. So, I need to figure out what enzymes might

be safe for his allergies (as well as SCD legal). He also suggested

avoiding any that were aspergillus derived, due to Tom's food

sensitivities. It's fungus. Aparently all Houstons are aspergillus.

Any ideas?

Suzanne: nursing Tom, 3.4, SCD & eating 12 foods, 42 days.

[Guest guest]

www.kirkmanlabs.com

contact them and tell them what you need (SCD, aspergills free, etc)

Agape,

Suzanne wrote:

I don't know a thing about enzymes. Can anybody help me figure out

where to start?

Our DAN has suggested a trial of enzymes, and Tom's poops are becoming

increasingly undigested. So, I need to figure out what enzymes might

be safe for his allergies (as well as SCD legal). He also suggested

avoiding any that were aspergillus derived, due to Tom's food

sensitivities. It's fungus. Aparently all Houstons are aspergillus.

Any ideas?

Suzanne: nursing Tom, 3.4, SCD & eating 12 foods, 42 days.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Elaine had a long talk with Dr. Houston of Houston Nutriceuticals and did allow

the

enzymes that contained rice bran (either because it was so little or because the

enzymes

digested the rice bran, I don't know). So the enzymes that are fruit derived

instead of

aspergillus derived would work for you. When you call to order, the customer

service

people will help you find the right ones for you.

Carolyn

>

> I don't know a thing about enzymes. Can anybody help me figure out

> where to start?

>

> Our DAN has suggested a trial of enzymes, and Tom's poops are becoming

> increasingly undigested. So, I need to figure out what enzymes might

> be safe for his allergies (as well as SCD legal). He also suggested

> avoiding any that were aspergillus derived, due to Tom's food

> sensitivities. It's fungus. Aparently all Houstons are aspergillus.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> Suzanne: nursing Tom, 3.4, SCD & eating 12 foods, 42 days.

>

[Guest guest]

Well, Tom's got a fruit allergy and a rice allergy, so those are

out..

> >

> > I don't know a thing about enzymes. Can anybody help me figure

out

> > where to start?

> >

> > Our DAN has suggested a trial of enzymes, and Tom's poops are

becoming

> > increasingly undigested. So, I need to figure out what enzymes

might

> > be safe for his allergies (as well as SCD legal). He also

suggested

> > avoiding any that were aspergillus derived, due to Tom's food

> > sensitivities. It's fungus. Aparently all Houstons are

aspergillus.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> > Suzanne: nursing Tom, 3.4, SCD & eating 12 foods, 42 days.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, just about all enzymes themselves are SCD okay. It's the

fillers and additives you need to look at. The Thropps Elite-zyme

Ultra has trace minerals but it was researched and is SCD.

Also, just about all enzymes are fungal derived (also called

microbial). Papain, bromelain, and actinidin are derived from fruits

(papaya, pineapple, and kiwi). This tend to be a problem for those

with phenol or salicylate sensitivities. And they are cross-listed as

reactive if you have latex allergy.

So in your case needing to avoid the fungal ones...consider

pancreatic enzymes. These are derived from animals. They are not

active in the stomach though, and you might need to take more of

them. However, they do work...just like the enzymes from our own

pancreases work. Your doctor has access to writing a prescription for

Creon or Vikoase for you. Both medically approved and used enzyme

products. This may allow you to get them covered by insurance

(yeah!). Natural food stores sell pancreatin too.

Pancreatin comes in standarded doses. One standard unit is 1X, twice

that is 2X, three times 3X, and so on. It is listed on the labels in

these strengths.

There are a few types of enzymes derived from bacteria (like

probiotics), but I would look into the pancreatin for food digestion

first.

.

[Guest guest]

Do I understand then that aspergillus derived enzymes can aggivate yeast?

Are Enzmedica fungal derived?

Thanks!

Kerri-SCD 2 !/2 months for 7 year old constipation (yeast) and rages

Re: Need list of SCD free enzymes ...are there any

that are not aspergillus-derived?

> Actually, just about all enzymes themselves are SCD okay. It's the

> fillers and additives you need to look at. The Thropps Elite-zyme

> Ultra has trace minerals but it was researched and is SCD.

>

> Also, just about all enzymes are fungal derived (also called

> microbial). Papain, bromelain, and actinidin are derived from fruits

> (papaya, pineapple, and kiwi). This tend to be a problem for those

> with phenol or salicylate sensitivities. And they are cross-listed as

> reactive if you have latex allergy.

>

> So in your case needing to avoid the fungal ones...consider

> pancreatic enzymes. These are derived from animals. They are not

> active in the stomach though, and you might need to take more of

> them. However, they do work...just like the enzymes from our own

> pancreases work. Your doctor has access to writing a prescription for

> Creon or Vikoase for you. Both medically approved and used enzyme

> products. This may allow you to get them covered by insurance

> (yeah!). Natural food stores sell pancreatin too.

>

> Pancreatin comes in standarded doses. One standard unit is 1X, twice

> that is 2X, three times 3X, and so on. It is listed on the labels in

> these strengths.

>

> There are a few types of enzymes derived from bacteria (like

> probiotics), but I would look into the pancreatin for food digestion

> first.

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>> Do I understand then that aspergillus derived enzymes can

aggivate yeast?

No. Aspergillus derived enzymes are not known to aggrevate or

increase yeast. Some of the aspergillus enzymes are specifically for

fighting yeast. The key is in the purification process. The enzymes

are rigorously purified so you only have the active enzyme protein

left. There isn't source material (the aspergillus) in the final

product. However, a person may not tolerate the enzymes just as they

can be intolerant of any protein. Remember though, that enzymes are

produced in our bodies all the time, so taking enzyme supplements

isn't like you are putting in a totally foreign substance. If you eat

any raw foods, you are eating naturally occurring enzymes in the food

(one of the features of a raw food diet). If this isn't exactly what

you wanted to know, please write again.

>>>>Are Enzmedica fungal derived?

Yes, they are. Just about all enzymes on the market that are not

fruit derived or pancreatic are from fungal sources. One that isn't

is serratio peptidase from a bacteria. It is widely used for

arthritis, heart health, fibromyalgia, removing scarring, and other

internal system-wide problems. It could work on food too (it is a

protease). Some serratio peptidase products are blends with fungal

enzymes, but there are some that are only the serratio enzyme.

.

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you so much for this information. Our DAN did suggest that we

look at the pancreatic enzymes, but did not want to write a

prescription, but left it up to us to figure out which ones to try.

Obviously, that will take me some time, and with cooking for this

diet, time is not something I have much of!

Once I narrow down the list of enzymes to investigate, I know I will

need to still do a lot of research into the various excipients and

fillers. My son has many, many food allergies (fruit-derived enzymes

are out also, he tolerates no fruits), and it would be difficult to

go to the store, write down all the brands and their ingredients,

then go home and call all the companies. Usually I try to do my

research on the web first, and email or call only the most promising

ones.

I hope to shorten the list of companies I need to call. Do you have

any brand names of pancreatin enzymes to suggest so I can start

calling companies?

Thanks for your help!

Suzanne

>

> Actually, just about all enzymes themselves are SCD okay. It's the

> fillers and additives you need to look at. The Thropps Elite-zyme

> Ultra has trace minerals but it was researched and is SCD.

>

> Also, just about all enzymes are fungal derived (also called

> microbial). Papain, bromelain, and actinidin are derived from

fruits

> (papaya, pineapple, and kiwi). This tend to be a problem for those

> with phenol or salicylate sensitivities. And they are cross-listed

as

> reactive if you have latex allergy.

>

> So in your case needing to avoid the fungal ones...consider

> pancreatic enzymes. These are derived from animals. They are not

> active in the stomach though, and you might need to take more of

> them. However, they do work...just like the enzymes from our own

> pancreases work. Your doctor has access to writing a prescription

for

> Creon or Vikoase for you. Both medically approved and used enzyme

> products. This may allow you to get them covered by insurance

> (yeah!). Natural food stores sell pancreatin too.

>

> Pancreatin comes in standarded doses. One standard unit is 1X,

twice

> that is 2X, three times 3X, and so on. It is listed on the labels

in

> these strengths.

>

> There are a few types of enzymes derived from bacteria (like

> probiotics), but I would look into the pancreatin for food

digestion

> first.

>

> .

>