Guest guest Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 Isnt it weird how problems can manifest themselves. I think there is definitely something going on between the mind and stomach. Because I know that emotional turmoil sends my stomach into a fit. Sometimes I think its best to just tell the mind " ok you had your say now calm down Lisbeth " Yeah I talk to my mind. I find that I am a wonderful listener. Plus I am so captivating! But seriously I think you have some good physical therapy going with the kitties they provide you with some peace. Now I want a pet gosh nabbit! Lisbeth Dr. Macura June 25, 2001 " Lili F. " wrote: Thanks, Lisbeth- I'm wondering if there isn't a hidden infection like Amy had- hopefully my barium swallow will show something. I spoke to my endocrinologist yesterday about the anxiety (because yep, I have an emotional gut & was afraid I wasn't helping) and he's changed my antianxiety meds.. either they're working or I've just become numb to stuff (lol.. riiight), because today I feel better emotionally.. and that helps a LOT. Plus I have the fat tomcat footrest to play with .. Thanks for the compliment.. I'll tell Shadow, but Noggy already thinks he's the cat's whiskers, lol. Hugs, Liane > > Liane, > I must say that I love your post, you are always positive and uplifting. > P.S. Cute kitties (this coming from a person who is horribly allergic to cats) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 Hi Liane, I lurk here often but this is my first post. Maybe someone has already mentioned this but you might want to be checked for C.diff (Colustrium Difficle - sp?). Flagyl is used to treat it but sometimes C.Diff can be resistant to it and then you have to use the much more expensive ($250.00 -- just ask me about it - Ouch!) Vaccodin. But, after a 10 day round with this drug things cleared up and are back to normal for me. Just a thought. In any case -- I hope you a feeling better soon. Jen Pre-op - 270 BMI - 51 Surgery date - 9/13/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Hi Jen.. They tested for Clostridium Difficile (same family as the bug causing botulism), and verbally told me that the results were negative.. but I asked for a copy of those labs to see for myself.. I've been on Flagyl already, first time 5 days, second time 7 days.. now once a day.. I'm hoping, praying, & crossing my fingers that this is the downhill slide. Next step allegedly is cipro.. hopefully I get to miss out on the lovely vancomycin regime- that stuff is rough! Thanks hun! Hugs, Liane > Hi Liane, > > I lurk here often but this is my first post. Maybe someone has > already mentioned this but you might want to be checked for C.diff > (Colustrium Difficle - sp?). Flagyl is used to treat it but > sometimes C.Diff can be resistant to it and then you have to use the > much more expensive ($250.00 -- just ask me about it - Ouch!) > Vaccodin. But, after a 10 day round with this drug things cleared up > and are back to normal for me. Just a thought. > > In any case -- I hope you a feeling better soon. > > Jen > > Pre-op - 270 > BMI - 51 > Surgery date - 9/13/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Liane....Loved your story about Eggnog. I am mommy to six kitties and one poodle. II also have five kids and one husband.) Hope you are feeling better and better with each day that passes. Alice in Upstate NY Pre-op Gagner 9/24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Liane, I am sorry you are having a rough time ....I am hoping that things start turning around for you soon ..... I am wishing good things for you.... I enjoy reading your posts ....and admire your spirit..despite the challenges you are going through right now ! hoping for nothing but good things for you soon! Namaste, J Planning for Surgery Daytona Beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 I think this is Vancomycin (generic)---I had c-diff pt's and it was miserable!!! Vanco works great. Liane--when you mentioned about the anxiety meds--did you say this helped? It made me think of what I read in the many vast volumes of posts somwhere--- about how the vagus nerve which runs the entire length of the ailementary canal ==esophagus to the pooper--and in the DS it is severed in 3 places-- Some people, with the swelling and healing of the tissues, this nerve is overly irritated--the anxiety meds may help it settle, and a " smooth muscle " relaxant med, may also help. I've been stewing this for a couple days--esp. since I believe you posted that the cultures came back ok. If the barium thing comes back normal this may be a consideration--some people just suffer it out until this nerve heals--6 months--or perhaps these other things may ease the discomfort. I may be out in right( or is it left?) feild--I get get my quips goofed up. But may be worth a try. Pammi > much more expensive ($250.00 -- just ask me about it - Ouch!) > Vaccodin. But, after a 10 day round with this drug things cleared up > and are back to normal for me. Just a thought. > > In any case -- I hope you a feeling better soon. > > Jen > > Pre-op - 270 > BMI - 51 > Surgery date - 9/13/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 I think this is Vancomycin (generic)---I had c-diff pt's and it was miserable!!! Vanco works great. Liane--when you mentioned about the anxiety meds--did you say this helped? It made me think of what I read in the many vast volumes of posts somwhere--- about how the vagus nerve which runs the entire length of the ailementary canal ==esophagus to the pooper--and in the DS it is severed in 3 places-- Some people, with the swelling and healing of the tissues, this nerve is overly irritated--the anxiety meds may help it settle, and a " smooth muscle " relaxant med, may also help. I've been stewing this for a couple days--esp. since I believe you posted that the cultures came back ok. If the barium thing comes back normal this may be a consideration--some people just suffer it out until this nerve heals--6 months--or perhaps these other things may ease the discomfort. I may be out in right( or is it left?) feild--I get get my quips goofed up. But may be worth a try. Pammi > much more expensive ($250.00 -- just ask me about it - Ouch!) > Vaccodin. But, after a 10 day round with this drug things cleared up > and are back to normal for me. Just a thought. > > In any case -- I hope you a feeling better soon. > > Jen > > Pre-op - 270 > BMI - 51 > Surgery date - 9/13/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 I'm so sorry you're going through all this. It almost makes me feel guilty since I'm feeling so great now. In my prayers, my surgery sis! P post-op 05-30-01 - SAME DAY AS LIANE, SAME HOSPITAL > > > > Liane, > > I must say that I love your post, you are always positive and > uplifting. > > P.S. Cute kitties (this coming from a person who is horribly > allergic to cats) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 In a message dated 8/16/01 6:35:06 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << about how the vagus nerve which runs the entire length of the ailementary canal ==esophagus to the pooper--and in the DS it is severed in 3 places-- Some people, with the swelling and healing of the tissues, this nerve is overly irritated--the anxiety meds may help it settle, and a " smooth muscle " relaxant med, may also help. >> No - I don't think the vagus nerve is touched AT ALL in the DS surgery... at least this was what I was told by Dr. Gagner. Hull - what have you read about this? all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 also have five kids and one husband.) >>>> LOL Alice! I sure hope so!! Judie ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 > Liane--when you mentioned about the anxiety meds--did you say this > helped? > > It made me think of what I read in the many vast volumes of posts > somwhere--- > about how the vagus nerve which runs the entire length of the > ailementary canal ==esophagus to the pooper--and in the DS it is > severed in 3 places-- Some people, with the swelling and healing of > the tissues, this nerve is overly irritated--the anxiety meds may > help it settle, and a " smooth muscle " relaxant med, may also help. > > I've been stewing this for a couple days--esp. since I believe you > posted that the cultures came back ok. If the barium thing comes back > normal this may be a consideration--some people just suffer it out > until this nerve heals--6 months--or perhaps these other things may > ease the discomfort. Hmmn.. never thought of that.. esp. since I never got nauseous until last weeked (vomited yes- felt nauseated, no). It better find something.. the stomach pains are getting stronger.. course, with the new anxiety meds, it doesn't seem as worrisome..(kidding- will be calling tomorrow to see about moving up the barium swallow). But I will ask about this if nothing shows on my results.. Hugs, Liane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 DON'T YOU DARE FEEL GUILTY!!!! I personally am DELIGHTED you're doing so well!!! Everything happens for a reason, girl- I just haven't figured this out yet is all. ENJOY feeling good! I sure did when I was feeling better! BIG Hugs, Liane > I'm so sorry you're going through all this. It almost makes me feel > guilty since I'm feeling so great now. > In my prayers, my surgery sis! > P > post-op 05-30-01 - SAME DAY AS LIANE, SAME HOSPITAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 The vagus nerve doesnt necesarrily have to be directly " touched " to become irritated. It's often suspect when someone has extended nausea after an abdominal surgery. (such as my sister after her gallbladder surgery, nausea lasted 6 weeks) I'm not sure about the diarrhea, but sounds very plausable to me. JMHO Meli -- In duodenalswitch@y..., ruisha@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 8/16/01 6:35:06 PM, duodenalswitch@y... writes: > > << about how the vagus nerve which runs the entire length of the > ailementary canal ==esophagus to the pooper--and in the DS it is > severed in 3 places-- Some people, with the swelling and healing of > the tissues, this nerve is overly irritated--the anxiety meds may > help it settle, and a " smooth muscle " relaxant med, may also help. > >> > > No - I don't think the vagus nerve is touched AT ALL in the DS surgery... at > least this was what I was told by Dr. Gagner. > > Hull - what have you read about this? > > all the best, > > lap ds with gallbladder removal > January 25, 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Thanks, Mel.. {{{{{{Big Hugs}}}}}}} Liane > Liane, > > I am sorry you are having a rough time ....I am hoping that things start > turning > around for you soon ..... > > I am wishing good things for you.... > I enjoy reading your posts ....and admire your > spirit..despite the challenges you are going through right now ! > > hoping for nothing but good things for you soon! > > Namaste, > J > Planning for Surgery > Daytona Beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 At 11:14 PM -0400 8/16/01, ruisha@... wrote: >... >No - I don't think the vagus nerve is touched AT ALL in the DS surgery... at >least this was what I was told by Dr. Gagner. > I asked Dr. Elariny about this when I went for my pre-op consult. He said that there are two branches of the vagus nerve in the stomach, and that one of the branches is removed in the resection (the first part of the BPD/DS. --Steve -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 << I asked Dr. Elariny about this when I went for my pre-op consult. He said that there are two branches of the vagus nerve in the stomach, and that one of the branches is removed in the resection (the first part of the BPD/DS. >> interesting -- Dr. Gagner said the vagas nerve wasn't even touched or removed at ALL during the surgery... maybe they are doing it slightly differently? all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal january 25, 2001 Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45 now: 230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 << I asked Dr. Elariny about this when I went for my pre-op consult. He said that there are two branches of the vagus nerve in the stomach, and that one of the branches is removed in the resection (the first part of the BPD/DS. >> interesting -- Dr. Gagner said the vagas nerve wasn't even touched or removed at ALL during the surgery... maybe they are doing it slightly differently? all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal january 25, 2001 Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45 now: 230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Hey Liane! The protein arrived today!! Thanks....did you get the check yet? Hugs, Judie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 Thank you so much I really appreciate this extended circle of friends and support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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