Mystery SOLVED Coconut Yogurt/Goat Yogurt/DIE OFF REACTION!

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Hey guys, and all our dear MODERATORS,

Thank you all for helping us to unravel this mystery!

Our coconut kefir experiment blew up in our face! We made the yogurt from home

made pasteurized coconut milk (to reassure all the bad bacteria and things where

dead), and added a yogurt starter that was diary free. It was delicious and we

drank the entire thing. So good, wanted to make more!

Thinking that if it was casein free...we would be OK.........WRONG! Now I know

why Elaine didn't want us using the kefir in the beginning of our SCDiet. WE

got to learn the hard way! It's because it causes a Horrendous die off, a

miserable one. Nothing gentle about it.

We stopped eating the goat yogurt because we justified that it had to be the

casein in the starter (made from cow dairy)....then we made the goat yogurt from

starter that was cow dairy free.....no difference. Still had strange behavior

changes. Blamed it all on casein! So justified using coconut or almond

yogurt/kefirs.

Then drank the coconut kefir....and had the die off of a life time. Having the

strangest looking poop! For those who like to talk about poop!

GUESS WHAT GUYS....it was the same reaction that we thought we where having from

casein! Both the coconut kefir and the goat yogurt made both cow casein free

and with a little cow casein in the started caused the same symptoms!:

a.. rage attacks, irritability, strange behavior, hyper activity, being

incompliant, ill behaved, not listening.

b.. Feeling sleepy, spacey, forgetful, " drunk " and toxic!

c.. strange skin rashes, that appear to be die off

d.. Dizzy, flue like, stomach aces, cramping, achy, nauseas, plan sick, head

aches

e.. Strange looking poop that looks like die off!

This was DIE OFF not A casein reaction!

I hope in the future that Pecan Bread makes this more clear in their web site.

This could be very helpful to others, and would have been very helpful to our

family. But our experiment now made what Elaine was trying to tell us CRYSTAL

CLEAR.

To top this off then I read that Elaine said that the casein is rendered

Harmless when we turn the goat milk into SCD yogurt! This too needs to be on

the front page of the web site. Because it took us two months to figure this

out the hard way! Some may never figure it out, due to their paranoia over

casein! God know we had a case of this paranoia.

Elaine swore by the yogurt, and was a little upset that the asd community was so

fearful of casein. Because many many autistic kids and kids on the spectrum

have healed using the yogurt. Yes, some have lost their diagnosis! It is a

very healthy and wholesome food. And is a MAJOR part of the success those are

having on the SCDiet! Without this yogurt success can be compromised and not as

good! This is a shame to those that this has happened to. But un like us

learned this lesson and now can heal Elaine's way. With the hope of our

daughter loosing her diagnosis of autism.

We are going back to our goat yogurt. But to control behavior problems from die

off will takes others suggestion of not eating a Bowel full, and starting much

slower. At least until some of those bad guys had died at a little slower pace.

That is if we haven't killed them all with this last killer die off that made us

all feel like we where the ones dieing! Oh, we got so sick!

When they die all at once...or in high numbers their toxins that they release

make a person soooooo very sick! Thank God for Activated Charcoal. A must

have for anybody with this type of die off!

Hope this helps others in the future, and motivates Pecan Bread to explain this

better on their web site. Please anybody contact us personally, we do want this

to change. So many parents need to know this information.

This casein paranoia needs to stop. So Pecan Bread can save more lives. It is

because of this casein paranoia that we didn't do the SCDiet sooner (over nine

months ago!). This was the very reason I put the book down. Then I learned

that you could do SCD diary free. So we tried it.

We all need to know that the casein is rendered harmless with fermentation! So

unless it is a true allergy that causes anaphylaxis....we can all enjoy it!

Because Elaine said that as the gut heals the sensitivities to many food

disappear too! That it is a T cell response, thanks to the vicious cycle in the

gut and NOT a typical allergy response (IgE, IgA, IgG)! This needs to be put

down on the web sit for us beginners. After all Elaine said it, and this is her

SCDiet (that she rescued from S.V. Hass M.D. who saved her daughter Judy's life)

that is continuing to save more lives as we speak.

Sincerely and to all, Antoinette and her Silly Yaks at the Bunce Zoo (2 mo plus

SCD entire family of FIVE and healing from celiac disease/malabsorption and

ASD...Elaine Gottschall's way and no other...because we trust her, and our

getting our sanity back....and our KiKi back from the depths of autism! OUR

guts are finnaly healing when the GFCFSF diet did not work, YEAH! God Bless you

Elaine!)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info<http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

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and

http://www.pecanbread.com<http://www.pecanbread.com/>