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--Hi,

Great topic!! I think that the parents or gaurdians of the child

should always be the " owners " in the hospital. Unless otherwise

stated for ie. abuse issues. The hospital does not have to deal with

the end result of any treatments or lack of after the child leaves

the hospital. The damage or trama caused by treatment or medication

in hospital or the decision to not have medication or treatment

should be considered with the long term effects on the childs

physical and mental health. Sometime a hospital stay can do more

harm than good. Especially when the child is young and needs the

support of Mom and Dad. I know that whild in hospital here I still

had to go and do MPT on Wyatt because the staff did not know how to

on such a small baby. We had to look it up online so we knew how to

administer his enzymes as well as his MPT. So I feel that only

partents have the Constant well being of the child. The staff always

goes home and can put work out of their minds. This includes our

children.

Just my opinion!

Kim mom of Wyatt 2 wcf and Kiefer 4 ncf-

In cfparents , " Torsten Krafft " <Torstenkrafft@w...>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> don't wanna open a can of worms, but this article is some

interesting food

> for the mind.

>

> Peace

> Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> e-mail: torstenkrafft@w...

>

> Journal of Advanced Nursing

> Volume 41 Issue 3 Page 213 - February 2003

>

> PHILOSOPHICAL AND ETHICAL ISSUES

> Who owns the child in hospital? A preliminary discussion

> Shields PhD FRCNA

> Inger sson-Hallström DrMedSci

> Gudrun Kristjánsdóttir DrPH RN

> and Judith Hunter BSc MA RN MBE

>

> Aim. To 'own' a person is considered an infringement of human

rights, but

> we suggest that concepts of ownership influence interactions between

> parents and staff when a child is admitted to hospital. This paper

aims

> to stimulate debate and contains an explanation of the exploration

of the

> literature for research and discussion of ownership of the

child.Method.

> A wide variety of library indexes, databases and populist media were

> examined although it was impossible to examine all literature which

may

> have contained references to this topic, and, apart from databases

which

> contained abstracts in English, we could not include literature

written

> in any language other than English, Swedish, and

Icelandic.Findings. We

> found no research that examines how concepts of ownership of a child

> affects communication between health professionals and parents and,

> ultimately, the delivery of health care. This paper begins

discussion on

> the issues.Discussion. Historical literature shows that ownership of

> humans has been a part of many cultures, and parents were once

considered

> to own their children. Ownership of another has legal connotations,

for

> instance in guardianship struggles of children during marriage

breakup

> and in ethical debates over surrogacy and products of assisted

> conception. Within health care, it becomes a contentious issue in

> transplantation of body parts, in discourse on autonomy and informed

> consent, and for religious groups who refuse blood transfusions. In

> health care, models such as family centred care and partnership in

care

> depend on positive communication between parents and staff. If a

hospital

> staff member feels that he/she owns a child for whom he/she is

caring,

> then conflict between the staff member and the parents over who has

the

> 'best interests of the child' at heart is possible.Conclusion. We

> encourage debate about concepts of who owns the hospitalized child -

the

> parents or the staff? Should it be argued at all? Is the whole

concept of

> ownership of another, be it adult or child, the ethical antithesis

to

> modern beliefs about human rights? Comment on this issue is invited.

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Kim,

I cant believe you had to show the PT. We've been doing manual physio.

since Eilish was 3 weeks old. They should know this stuff.

(Australia)

Re: Who owns the child in hospital?

--Hi,

Great topic!! I think that the parents or gaurdians of the child

should always be the " owners " in the hospital. Unless otherwise

stated for ie. abuse issues. The hospital does not have to deal with

the end result of any treatments or lack of after the child leaves

the hospital. The damage or trama caused by treatment or medication

in hospital or the decision to not have medication or treatment

should be considered with the long term effects on the childs

physical and mental health. Sometime a hospital stay can do more

harm than good. Especially when the child is young and needs the

support of Mom and Dad. I know that whild in hospital here I still

had to go and do MPT on Wyatt because the staff did not know how to

on such a small baby. We had to look it up online so we knew how to

administer his enzymes as well as his MPT. So I feel that only

partents have the Constant well being of the child. The staff always

goes home and can put work out of their minds. This includes our

children.

Just my opinion!

Kim mom of Wyatt 2 wcf and Kiefer 4 ncf-

In cfparents , " Torsten Krafft " <Torstenkrafft@w...>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> don't wanna open a can of worms, but this article is some

interesting food

> for the mind.

>

> Peace

> Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> e-mail: torstenkrafft@w...

>

> Journal of Advanced Nursing

> Volume 41 Issue 3 Page 213 - February 2003

>

> PHILOSOPHICAL AND ETHICAL ISSUES

> Who owns the child in hospital? A preliminary discussion

> Shields PhD FRCNA

> Inger sson-Hallström DrMedSci

> Gudrun Kristjánsdóttir DrPH RN

> and Judith Hunter BSc MA RN MBE

>

> Aim. To 'own' a person is considered an infringement of human

rights, but

> we suggest that concepts of ownership influence interactions between

> parents and staff when a child is admitted to hospital. This paper

aims

> to stimulate debate and contains an explanation of the exploration

of the

> literature for research and discussion of ownership of the

child.Method.

> A wide variety of library indexes, databases and populist media were

> examined although it was impossible to examine all literature which

may

> have contained references to this topic, and, apart from databases

which

> contained abstracts in English, we could not include literature

written

> in any language other than English, Swedish, and

Icelandic.Findings. We

> found no research that examines how concepts of ownership of a child

> affects communication between health professionals and parents and,

> ultimately, the delivery of health care. This paper begins

discussion on

> the issues.Discussion. Historical literature shows that ownership of

> humans has been a part of many cultures, and parents were once

considered

> to own their children. Ownership of another has legal connotations,

for

> instance in guardianship struggles of children during marriage

breakup

> and in ethical debates over surrogacy and products of assisted

> conception. Within health care, it becomes a contentious issue in

> transplantation of body parts, in discourse on autonomy and informed

> consent, and for religious groups who refuse blood transfusions. In

> health care, models such as family centred care and partnership in

care

> depend on positive communication between parents and staff. If a

hospital

> staff member feels that he/she owns a child for whom he/she is

caring,

> then conflict between the staff member and the parents over who has

the

> 'best interests of the child' at heart is possible.Conclusion. We

> encourage debate about concepts of who owns the hospitalized child -

the

> parents or the staff? Should it be argued at all? Is the whole

concept of

> ownership of another, be it adult or child, the ethical antithesis

to

> modern beliefs about human rights? Comment on this issue is invited.

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Kim,

I cant believe you had to show the PT. We've been doing manual physio.

since Eilish was 3 weeks old. They should know this stuff.

(Australia)

Re: Who owns the child in hospital?

--Hi,

Great topic!! I think that the parents or gaurdians of the child

should always be the " owners " in the hospital. Unless otherwise

stated for ie. abuse issues. The hospital does not have to deal with

the end result of any treatments or lack of after the child leaves

the hospital. The damage or trama caused by treatment or medication

in hospital or the decision to not have medication or treatment

should be considered with the long term effects on the childs

physical and mental health. Sometime a hospital stay can do more

harm than good. Especially when the child is young and needs the

support of Mom and Dad. I know that whild in hospital here I still

had to go and do MPT on Wyatt because the staff did not know how to

on such a small baby. We had to look it up online so we knew how to

administer his enzymes as well as his MPT. So I feel that only

partents have the Constant well being of the child. The staff always

goes home and can put work out of their minds. This includes our

children.

Just my opinion!

Kim mom of Wyatt 2 wcf and Kiefer 4 ncf-

In cfparents , " Torsten Krafft " <Torstenkrafft@w...>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> don't wanna open a can of worms, but this article is some

interesting food

> for the mind.

>

> Peace

> Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> e-mail: torstenkrafft@w...

>

> Journal of Advanced Nursing

> Volume 41 Issue 3 Page 213 - February 2003

>

> PHILOSOPHICAL AND ETHICAL ISSUES

> Who owns the child in hospital? A preliminary discussion

> Shields PhD FRCNA

> Inger sson-Hallström DrMedSci

> Gudrun Kristjánsdóttir DrPH RN

> and Judith Hunter BSc MA RN MBE

>

> Aim. To 'own' a person is considered an infringement of human

rights, but

> we suggest that concepts of ownership influence interactions between

> parents and staff when a child is admitted to hospital. This paper

aims

> to stimulate debate and contains an explanation of the exploration

of the

> literature for research and discussion of ownership of the

child.Method.

> A wide variety of library indexes, databases and populist media were

> examined although it was impossible to examine all literature which

may

> have contained references to this topic, and, apart from databases

which

> contained abstracts in English, we could not include literature

written

> in any language other than English, Swedish, and

Icelandic.Findings. We

> found no research that examines how concepts of ownership of a child

> affects communication between health professionals and parents and,

> ultimately, the delivery of health care. This paper begins

discussion on

> the issues.Discussion. Historical literature shows that ownership of

> humans has been a part of many cultures, and parents were once

considered

> to own their children. Ownership of another has legal connotations,

for

> instance in guardianship struggles of children during marriage

breakup

> and in ethical debates over surrogacy and products of assisted

> conception. Within health care, it becomes a contentious issue in

> transplantation of body parts, in discourse on autonomy and informed

> consent, and for religious groups who refuse blood transfusions. In

> health care, models such as family centred care and partnership in

care

> depend on positive communication between parents and staff. If a

hospital

> staff member feels that he/she owns a child for whom he/she is

caring,

> then conflict between the staff member and the parents over who has

the

> 'best interests of the child' at heart is possible.Conclusion. We

> encourage debate about concepts of who owns the hospitalized child -

the

> parents or the staff? Should it be argued at all? Is the whole

concept of

> ownership of another, be it adult or child, the ethical antithesis

to

> modern beliefs about human rights? Comment on this issue is invited.

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