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Before you read this please understand that " celiac " disease meant

all malabsorption syndromes back then. Even Cystic Fibrosis back

then was considered a type of celiac disease. Yes he cured cystic

fibrosis. wow!

Many of these kids displayed what would in today's terms be

considered on the autism spectrum also. Even though they do not use

these words, they describe the ASD child perfectly. It is so SAD

that so many of children eating other ways are doomed to the fate of

repeating the history of using ways of eating that due not

cure…..in the case of our LUCKY SCD children we are no doubt

repeating the history of success!

Here are some direct quotes from his book ( " Management of Celiac

Disease " ), that Elaine also references out in her BTVC book:

" In 1924 S.V. Haas reported that in cases in which the diet can be

controlled for a sufficient length of time, recovery ensues in every

instance and without nutritional relapse. This was the first report

of the banana diet and the first really favorable prognosis " pg 111

The " banana diet " is now called the specific carbohydrate diet.

Before this other ways of eating such as taking out vegetables and

fruits, fats and proteins failed miserably. It was only this

specific carbohydrate diet that was saving lives, not stunting the

growth permanently and having NO ill health consequences. The CHILD

WAS CURED. This was the first time that this had ever happen.

Prior, there where many deaths, and many children that where

permanently disabled, if they did survive.

With other ways of eating other than the SCD way, this is a

quote: " Heubner says that the disease may continue for years with

periods of improvement alternating with periods of deterioration.

Growth and height are retarded for months or even years and in large

numbers of cases remain below normal for life….. A fatal outcome is

not infrequent. " Pg 111 Again, this was referring to any diet

other than the specific carbohydrate diet. Back then they where

trying anything! The children eating Dr. Haas's way where very

lucky in deed!

" In 1933 Courtin reported 34 cases. Significantly, he pointed out

that the fatalities in his series took place before he used the

fruit and vegetable diet. " This man actually experimented with

taking fruit and vegetables out…will dire results for some kids. If

they did not die they had permanent disableity and thier growth was

stunted for life. Then Courtin goes to admit: " He stated that with

the fruit-and vegetable diet the prognosis for the disease is

excellent, both from the point of view of mortality and of the

ultimate attainment of perfectly normal development. " Pg 113

" In 1938 Haas published another paper, this time citing 134

consecutive cases of celiac disease. Of these, 3 died of disease

completely unrelated to celiac disease. All of the rest recovered

completely and were alive and well, some of them 15 years after

their initial presentation. In the same year Fanconi also reported

very favorable prognosis under treatment with his fruit and

vegetable diet (which was similar to SCD).

In 1950 S.V. and M.P. Haas, reporting on 603 cases, all of them

treated with the carbohydrate specific diet (SCD), pointed out that

practically all cases recover completely and that there should be no

deaths " Pg. 113

" In recent years, some of the most prominent investigators have

continued to issue most pessimistic reports on the ultimate

prognosis of celiac disease " Pg. 113 This come from the sad fact

taht SCDie this not always used. It is the child that suffers this

sad fate.

The book continues to say that with the SCDiet:

" Most cases begin to improve immediately. The earliest sting of

improvement is a change in the child's disposition; he become happy,

smiling, contented. The diarrhea is often controlled in the first

week, but in some cases, such control may take a month or several

months more. IF he suffered from anorexia, the child's appetite

improves, and he begins to grow and gain weight. " ………. " Duration of

the treatment is of outmost importance. The strict celiac diet

(specific carbohydrate diet) must be continued for at least one

year. If there has been no recurrence of symptoms, forbidden

carbohydrates may be added;…… " Pg 132

Elaine suggested a strict SCDiet one year after the symptoms leave,

and thenone can started adding illegal slowly one at a time, but

suggesting never to completely go back to the SAD (standard

American diet). It just isn't that healthy for anybody.

My question is:

What kind of insanity thinks that we need to repeat history in

experimenting with other ways of eating when this has 50 years of

working. I realize that a minority of kids have special needs, in

which alternatives ways may be needed, but on the most part the

SCDiet is the " cure " for the majority of us suffering from

malabsorption and the vicious cycle.

God help those eating the Gluten freed diet it is disastrous in

deed. We personally learned the hard way. I pray my children do

not have permanent disabilty, thanks to this experiment that lasted

1 and a half years!

It may have initially gave relief but illness and rebound occured

just like Dr. Haas said it would. KIKI and me became so much

sicker! NOW SHE IS AUTISTIC! If I had known this was

teh " cure " ...she would have never had to get so sick. But today we

move forward with HOPE! She is getting well now. If there is

permanent problems with her brain, we will teach her how to deal

with them with a SMILE! Thank God she can now smile!

From years of being misdiangoses I too have permanent problems, but

have obviously learned how to accomidate them to be a part of " main

stream " society.

I wish I had known this history sooner, when I was questioning the

BTVC book.

Why can't we all learn by history and stop questioning the thousands

that have been healed with Elaine's success too? This is not to

those who are already convinced, but to help the one who is still

questioning the SCDiet.

Please go to Elaine's web site and read:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/news/cure_for_coeliac_disease

..htm

Sincerely, Antoinette trying to keep a message alive, the Silly Yak

Crusader and her Silly Yaks at the Bunce Zoo.

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Antoinette,

Thanks for the excerpt!... Dr. Haas' writings are still timely... and Elaine's

'modifications' are helpful... you're going to love Dr. -McBride's

'modificatons',... the things she has to say about cheese, chelation,

etc....sort of sounds like you.

Agape,

kikijabunce wrote:

Before you read this please understand that " celiac " disease meant

all malabsorption syndromes back then. Even Cystic Fibrosis back

then was considered a type of celiac disease. Yes he cured cystic

fibrosis. wow!

Many of these kids displayed what would in today's terms be

considered on the autism spectrum also. Even though they do not use

these words, they describe the ASD child perfectly. It is so SAD

that so many of children eating other ways are doomed to the fate of

repeating the history of using ways of eating that due not

cure…..in the case of our LUCKY SCD children we are no doubt

repeating the history of success!

Here are some direct quotes from his book ( " Management of Celiac

Disease " ), that Elaine also references out in her BTVC book:

" In 1924 S.V. Haas reported that in cases in which the diet can be

controlled for a sufficient length of time, recovery ensues in every

instance and without nutritional relapse. This was the first report

of the banana diet and the first really favorable prognosis " pg 111

The " banana diet " is now called the specific carbohydrate diet.

Before this other ways of eating such as taking out vegetables and

fruits, fats and proteins failed miserably. It was only this

specific carbohydrate diet that was saving lives, not stunting the

growth permanently and having NO ill health consequences. The CHILD

WAS CURED. This was the first time that this had ever happen.

Prior, there where many deaths, and many children that where

permanently disabled, if they did survive.

With other ways of eating other than the SCD way, this is a

quote: " Heubner says that the disease may continue for years with

periods of improvement alternating with periods of deterioration.

Growth and height are retarded for months or even years and in large

numbers of cases remain below normal for life….. A fatal outcome is

not infrequent. " Pg 111 Again, this was referring to any diet

other than the specific carbohydrate diet. Back then they where

trying anything! The children eating Dr. Haas's way where very

lucky in deed!

" In 1933 Courtin reported 34 cases. Significantly, he pointed out

that the fatalities in his series took place before he used the

fruit and vegetable diet. " This man actually experimented with

taking fruit and vegetables out…will dire results for some kids. If

they did not die they had permanent disableity and thier growth was

stunted for life. Then Courtin goes to admit: " He stated that with

the fruit-and vegetable diet the prognosis for the disease is

excellent, both from the point of view of mortality and of the

ultimate attainment of perfectly normal development. " Pg 113

" In 1938 Haas published another paper, this time citing 134

consecutive cases of celiac disease. Of these, 3 died of disease

completely unrelated to celiac disease. All of the rest recovered

completely and were alive and well, some of them 15 years after

their initial presentation. In the same year Fanconi also reported

very favorable prognosis under treatment with his fruit and

vegetable diet (which was similar to SCD).

In 1950 S.V. and M.P. Haas, reporting on 603 cases, all of them

treated with the carbohydrate specific diet (SCD), pointed out that

practically all cases recover completely and that there should be no

deaths " Pg. 113

" In recent years, some of the most prominent investigators have

continued to issue most pessimistic reports on the ultimate

prognosis of celiac disease " Pg. 113 This come from the sad fact

taht SCDie this not always used. It is the child that suffers this

sad fate.

The book continues to say that with the SCDiet:

" Most cases begin to improve immediately. The earliest sting of

improvement is a change in the child's disposition; he become happy,

smiling, contented. The diarrhea is often controlled in the first

week, but in some cases, such control may take a month or several

months more. IF he suffered from anorexia, the child's appetite

improves, and he begins to grow and gain weight. " ………. " Duration of

the treatment is of outmost importance. The strict celiac diet

(specific carbohydrate diet) must be continued for at least one

year. If there has been no recurrence of symptoms, forbidden

carbohydrates may be added;…… " Pg 132

Elaine suggested a strict SCDiet one year after the symptoms leave,

and thenone can started adding illegal slowly one at a time, but

suggesting never to completely go back to the SAD (standard

American diet). It just isn't that healthy for anybody.

My question is:

What kind of insanity thinks that we need to repeat history in

experimenting with other ways of eating when this has 50 years of

working. I realize that a minority of kids have special needs, in

which alternatives ways may be needed, but on the most part the

SCDiet is the " cure " for the majority of us suffering from

malabsorption and the vicious cycle.

God help those eating the Gluten freed diet it is disastrous in

deed. We personally learned the hard way. I pray my children do

not have permanent disabilty, thanks to this experiment that lasted

1 and a half years!

It may have initially gave relief but illness and rebound occured

just like Dr. Haas said it would. KIKI and me became so much

sicker! NOW SHE IS AUTISTIC! If I had known this was

teh " cure " ...she would have never had to get so sick. But today we

move forward with HOPE! She is getting well now. If there is

permanent problems with her brain, we will teach her how to deal

with them with a SMILE! Thank God she can now smile!

From years of being misdiangoses I too have permanent problems, but

have obviously learned how to accomidate them to be a part of " main

stream " society.

I wish I had known this history sooner, when I was questioning the

BTVC book.

Why can't we all learn by history and stop questioning the thousands

that have been healed with Elaine's success too? This is not to

those who are already convinced, but to help the one who is still

questioning the SCDiet.

Please go to Elaine's web site and read:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/news/cure_for_coeliac_disease

..htm

Sincerely, Antoinette trying to keep a message alive, the Silly Yak

Crusader and her Silly Yaks at the Bunce Zoo.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Dear Braindi, I hope others have read it too, who have doubt and are

experimenting with other ways that have already historicaly proven

not to work all that well.

It is neat seing the miracle of the natural and gentle way that the

SCDiet detoxes the body, and in a way naturly chelates. Making the

liver and kidneys function again the way that God meant our bodies

to function, before this vicious cycle kicked in. So that they can

finnaly excrete those horrible metals and junk on their own...like

a " normal " person can! No chelation therapy needed yet....knock on

wood...never with this SCDiet.

Today KiKi grows again. We just had to buy the next size in

clothes! YEAH!!!!

I can't wait for my book!

Sincerely, Antoinette

(2+ months...and healing my family the SCD way..the way that has

worked for over 50 years....if possible we will stick to just

this...it worked before thousands of times maybe it will work again.)

> Before you read this please understand that " celiac " disease

meant

> all malabsorption syndromes back then. Even Cystic Fibrosis back

> then was considered a type of celiac disease. Yes he cured cystic

> fibrosis. wow!

>

> Many of these kids displayed what would in today's terms be

> considered on the autism spectrum also. Even though they do not

use

> these words, they describe the ASD child perfectly. It is so SAD

> that so many of children eating other ways are doomed to the fate

of

> repeating the history of using ways of eating that due not

> cure…..in the case of our LUCKY SCD children we are no doubt

> repeating the history of success!

>

> Here are some direct quotes from his book ( " Management of Celiac

> Disease " ), that Elaine also references out in her BTVC book:

>

> " In 1924 S.V. Haas reported that in cases in which the diet can be

> controlled for a sufficient length of time, recovery ensues in

every

> instance and without nutritional relapse. This was the first

report

> of the banana diet and the first really favorable prognosis " pg

111

> The " banana diet " is now called the specific carbohydrate diet.

>

> Before this other ways of eating such as taking out vegetables and

> fruits, fats and proteins failed miserably. It was only this

> specific carbohydrate diet that was saving lives, not stunting the

> growth permanently and having NO ill health consequences. The

CHILD

> WAS CURED. This was the first time that this had ever happen.

> Prior, there where many deaths, and many children that where

> permanently disabled, if they did survive.

>

> With other ways of eating other than the SCD way, this is a

> quote: " Heubner says that the disease may continue for years with

> periods of improvement alternating with periods of deterioration.

> Growth and height are retarded for months or even years and in

large

> numbers of cases remain below normal for life….. A fatal outcome

is

> not infrequent. " Pg 111 Again, this was referring to any diet

> other than the specific carbohydrate diet. Back then they where

> trying anything! The children eating Dr. Haas's way where very

> lucky in deed!

>

> " In 1933 Courtin reported 34 cases. Significantly, he pointed out

> that the fatalities in his series took place before he used the

> fruit and vegetable diet. " This man actually experimented with

> taking fruit and vegetables out…will dire results for some kids.

If

> they did not die they had permanent disableity and thier growth

was

> stunted for life. Then Courtin goes to admit: " He stated that

with

> the fruit-and vegetable diet the prognosis for the disease is

> excellent, both from the point of view of mortality and of the

> ultimate attainment of perfectly normal development. " Pg 113

>

> " In 1938 Haas published another paper, this time citing 134

> consecutive cases of celiac disease. Of these, 3 died of disease

> completely unrelated to celiac disease. All of the rest recovered

> completely and were alive and well, some of them 15 years after

> their initial presentation. In the same year Fanconi also reported

> very favorable prognosis under treatment with his fruit and

> vegetable diet (which was similar to SCD).

>

> In 1950 S.V. and M.P. Haas, reporting on 603 cases, all of them

> treated with the carbohydrate specific diet (SCD), pointed out

that

> practically all cases recover completely and that there should be

no

> deaths " Pg. 113

>

> " In recent years, some of the most prominent investigators have

> continued to issue most pessimistic reports on the ultimate

> prognosis of celiac disease " Pg. 113 This come from the sad fact

> taht SCDie this not always used. It is the child that suffers

this

> sad fate.

>

> The book continues to say that with the SCDiet:

> " Most cases begin to improve immediately. The earliest sting of

> improvement is a change in the child's disposition; he become

happy,

> smiling, contented. The diarrhea is often controlled in the first

> week, but in some cases, such control may take a month or several

> months more. IF he suffered from anorexia, the child's appetite

> improves, and he begins to grow and gain weight. " ………. " Duration of

> the treatment is of outmost importance. The strict celiac diet

> (specific carbohydrate diet) must be continued for at least one

> year. If there has been no recurrence of symptoms, forbidden

> carbohydrates may be added;…… " Pg 132

>

> Elaine suggested a strict SCDiet one year after the symptoms

leave,

> and thenone can started adding illegal slowly one at a time, but

> suggesting never to completely go back to the SAD (standard

> American diet). It just isn't that healthy for anybody.

>

> My question is:

> What kind of insanity thinks that we need to repeat history in

> experimenting with other ways of eating when this has 50 years of

> working. I realize that a minority of kids have special needs, in

> which alternatives ways may be needed, but on the most part the

> SCDiet is the " cure " for the majority of us suffering from

> malabsorption and the vicious cycle.

>

> God help those eating the Gluten freed diet it is disastrous in

> deed. We personally learned the hard way. I pray my children do

> not have permanent disabilty, thanks to this experiment that

lasted

> 1 and a half years!

>

> It may have initially gave relief but illness and rebound occured

> just like Dr. Haas said it would. KIKI and me became so much

> sicker! NOW SHE IS AUTISTIC! If I had known this was

> teh " cure " ...she would have never had to get so sick. But today

we

> move forward with HOPE! She is getting well now. If there is

> permanent problems with her brain, we will teach her how to deal

> with them with a SMILE! Thank God she can now smile!

>

> From years of being misdiangoses I too have permanent problems,

but

> have obviously learned how to accomidate them to be a part

of " main

> stream " society.

>

> I wish I had known this history sooner, when I was questioning the

> BTVC book.

>

> Why can't we all learn by history and stop questioning the

thousands

> that have been healed with Elaine's success too? This is not to

> those who are already convinced, but to help the one who is still

> questioning the SCDiet.

>

>

> Please go to Elaine's web site and read:

>

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/news/cure_for_coeliac_disease

> .htm

>

> Sincerely, Antoinette trying to keep a message alive, the Silly

Yak

> Crusader and her Silly Yaks at the Bunce Zoo.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>

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