Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 , Thank you SO much for this post - it answered so many questions for me, and I'm finally clearer on the issue! Gratefully, Debbie - Mom of Simon, ASD 9 yrs. old At 01:02 AM 5/24/2006, you wrote: >there appears to be a difference between the oxalate content of food >and bioavaliabilty of the oxalates > >low oxalate is a medical diet for kidney stones that has been around >since the 90's, how successful i don't know > >the theory is that oxalates combine with calcium to form stones > >its been around long enough that eliane gotschall would have been >aware of it but obviously wasn't that interested in it > >the main issues i think are that some people really don't have the >digestive enzymes for nuts > >and chard, collards, spinach, kale and silverbeet are necessary >because of high vitamin k content but are hard on the gut so sohould >be eaten in moderate quanties and occasionally rether than every day >which is what can happen with the ease of just chucking them inot >food processors > >dropping nuts and nut flours will work a lot better for some but its >not the high oxalate content per se > >so the low oxalate diet hits a few spots but since the hoery is >unsound is a bit mixed in result and its so simple just to consider >what i ahve written above > >susan owens who is the driving force behind the more recent uptake of >this diet regretably has excluded content on her boards that >questions the reasoning behind the diet, you just can't do that sort >of thing if you want to get something right > > > >----------------- > >A further study of oxalate bioavailability in foods. > >Brinkley LJ, J, Pak CY. > >Center for Mineral Metabolism and Clinical Research, University of >Texas Southwestern Medical School, Dallas 75235. > >We extended the study of oxalate bioavailability by testing 7 >additional food items: brewed tea, tea with milk, turnip greens, >okra, peanuts and almonds. Nine normal subjects ingested a large >serving of each of these items. The bioavailable oxalate was >calculated from the increment in urinary oxalate during 8 hours after >ingestion and bioavailability was determined as the percentage of >total oxalate content in a given food item represented by >bioavailable oxalate. Brewed tea and tea with milk, with a high >oxalate content, had a low bioavailable oxalate level (1.17 and 0.44 >mg. per load) because of the low oxalate availability >(bioavailability of 0.08 and 0.03%). Turnip greens, with a >satisfactory oxalate bioavailability (5.8%), had a negligible effect >on urinary oxalate excretion, since oxalate content was relatively >low (12 mg. per load). Okra, with a moderate oxalate content (264 mg. >per load) had a negligible bioavailable oxalate (0.28 mg. per load). >Only peanuts and almonds provided a moderate increase in oxalate >excretion (3 to 5 mg. per load) due to the modest oxalate content >(116 and 131 mg. per load) and oxalate bioavailability (3.8 and >2.8%). Thus, the ability of various oxalate-rich foods to augment >urinary oxalate excretion depends not only on oxalate content but on >the bioavailability. > > > > > > > " What is 'the new modified low oxalate SCD.' ? Is that what we do >here > > on Pecanbread? " > > > > (I know I said I wouldn't be on the list... but I saw this and had >to > > respond.) > > > > > > > > On pecanbread we just do SCD. Each indvidual customizes their menu > > based on what is individually tolerated. > > > > A low oxalate SCD would eliminate nuts, almost all dark green >veggies, > > beans and several other things. > > > > To learn more about a low oxalate diet, see the Trying_low_oxalates > > yahoo! group. > > > > I do not have my children on a Low Oxalate diet. I've been helping >so > > that others who wanted to still follow SCD could remain on SCD. > > > > (I've got to finish packing still...) > > > > > > Jody > > mom to -7 and -9 > > SCD 1/03 > > > > > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following >websites: >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >and >http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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