Re: a cure?/Kerri

April 2, 2006

Kerri,

I do not believe there is such thing as a " candida problem " only a " candida

symptom " . Candida is alive in everyone's guts, healthy and unhealthy. The immune

system keeps it in check, if it is healthy. Candida is only a symptom. I do not

take the tactic of battling yeast. I have use yeast killers for myself and my

sons, but not constantly, and only in the event of a regression of some type,

which thankfully are becomming rarer and rarer, and much less serious. As they

also kill the beneficial flora in the intestine, especially essential oil yeast

killers, it is best to only use them to help get yeast under a bit of control,

then to stop.

I have a cyst of some type in my own throat, it is a good gauge for healing.

While at the beginning of this year, myself, I had a pretty rough flare, it has

gone down, and I have discontinued with the oils. I don't expect to be over

fungal infection until my immune system is healed, but I guage my healing on

many levels, such as being cancer free for 7 years, stroke and hemmorhage free

for 6 years, and I could go on. I have healed drastically in these last years,

but healing is not a magic pill, it is a baby stepping process. I keep my own

focus on healing my immune system/gut above everything. This in turn helps with

fungal infection, a burned out pancreas, and so on and so on. Yes, one does get

over systematic candida infection, like everything else, as healing happens, it

slowly fades away. My son Ben had terrible fungal cysts, visible, on the outside

of his rectum, and he is in complete remission from them once going on SCD. But

he is young. I am about to turn 32, so

recouperation and healing is a longer process. All these kiddos on pecanbread

have young bodies on their sides, and if an adult with big medical problems can

heal, the kiddos definitely will.

The first step I would take, when battling a candida problem, is tweak the

diet perfectly. Food journal. What foods does your child digest best, digests

the worst. Symptoms from what. When is she most yeasty, and why. Many other

yeasts that can infect the intestines are inhaled constanlty in the air, in a

mold form, and they quickly mutate into a rhizoid forms, infecting the bodies of

those who are immuno-depressed. There is no medicene for this, that brings

anything but temporary relief. The causes have to be ferreted out and healed.

What are Holli's causes?

So yes, one can be healed from a candida problem, but how long it takes is

variable, and dependent upon ferreting out the causes of immune system and

digestive system weakness and destruction.

Summer

Hi Summer

I am re-reading your e mail to me because Holli is off Nystatin now and I

am going to try the herbal anti fungals you mentioned...but does one ever

get OVER a candida problem? It sounds like you have been battling it for a

long time!

Kerri

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April 2, 2006

Summer,

That is helpful about watching food reactions. I will try to pay attention

to that....I have already noticed that dried fruits, crunchy nuts, beans

(insoluble fiber) make her constipated which in turn make her yeasty..we're

back to intro diet plus a few other things....well and the honey, that was a

big problem.

You were right about the Nystatin. Within a few days of stopping it she was

as yeasty as ever. You have come a long way. A throat cyst would be a

regression for us, but it is progress for you with all that you have come

through!...it also encourages me to press on with this. Also, I never

realized that inhaled mold could be a problem. I assumed all of Holli's

yeast problems came from within. She could be the poster child for what

happens when you give a child too many antibiotics, too many vaccines, oral

steroids for asthma especially with food intolerances underlying.

I am heading to the health food store to find some essential oils but will

heed your caution to not overuse them...one scary symptom of yeast problems

for Holli is asthma, so we want to " knock the yeasties down " to try to

control that...I'm hoping the oils will help her right now. There are some

" yeast cleanse " kits that have mulitple oils that are rotated, but they say

not to give them to kids under age 12. What do you think of those?

Thanks for all your help Summer

Kerri-all SCD 2.5 months for 7 year old with constipation and rages etc

Re: a cure?/Kerri

Kerri,

I do not believe there is such thing as a " candida problem " only a

" candida symptom " . Candida is alive in everyone's guts, healthy and

unhealthy. The immune system keeps it in check, if it is healthy. Candida is

only a symptom. I do not take the tactic of battling yeast. I have use yeast

killers for myself and my sons, but not constantly, and only in the event of

a regression of some type, which thankfully are becomming rarer and rarer,

and much less serious. As they also kill the beneficial flora in the

intestine, especially essential oil yeast killers, it is best to only use

them to help get yeast under a bit of control, then to stop.

I have a cyst of some type in my own throat, it is a good gauge for

healing. While at the beginning of this year, myself, I had a pretty rough

flare, it has gone down, and I have discontinued with the oils. I don't

expect to be over fungal infection until my immune system is healed, but I

guage my healing on many levels, such as being cancer free for 7 years,

stroke and hemmorhage free for 6 years, and I could go on. I have healed

drastically in these last years, but healing is not a magic pill, it is a

baby stepping process. I keep my own focus on healing my immune system/gut

above everything. This in turn helps with fungal infection, a burned out

pancreas, and so on and so on. Yes, one does get over systematic candida

infection, like everything else, as healing happens, it slowly fades away.

My son Ben had terrible fungal cysts, visible, on the outside of his rectum,

and he is in complete remission from them once going on SCD. But he is

young. I am about to turn 32, so

recouperation and healing is a longer process. All these kiddos on

pecanbread have young bodies on their sides, and if an adult with big

medical problems can heal, the kiddos definitely will.

The first step I would take, when battling a candida problem, is tweak the

diet perfectly. Food journal. What foods does your child digest best,

digests the worst. Symptoms from what. When is she most yeasty, and why.

Many other yeasts that can infect the intestines are inhaled constanlty in

the air, in a mold form, and they quickly mutate into a rhizoid forms,

infecting the bodies of those who are immuno-depressed. There is no medicene

for this, that brings anything but temporary relief. The causes have to be

ferreted out and healed. What are Holli's causes?

So yes, one can be healed from a candida problem, but how long it takes is

variable, and dependent upon ferreting out the causes of immune system and

digestive system weakness and destruction.

Summer

Hi Summer

I am re-reading your e mail to me because Holli is off Nystatin now and I

am going to try the herbal anti fungals you mentioned...but does one ever

get OVER a candida problem? It sounds like you have been battling it for a

long time!

Kerri

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April 2, 2006

Kerri,

I have had problems with my throat since a very little girl. However, the

flare I had at the beginning of this year was indeed a regression for

myself...but, the possibilities of regressions until the immune system is

completely healed is there. Regressions are not all bad, they teach you things.

Gives you an opportunity to look at what is causing the regression, and that

allows room for lasting changes.

This is, by all means, a very incomplete list, but here is a list of fungi,

some mold, some yeasts, that are inhaled and can become systematic in immune

weakened bodies. Most of the list below normally lives in the soil, and is

carried in the air into the lungs.

Dermatophytes (Trichophyton, Microsporum and Epidermophyton species)

Sporothrix schenckii

Histoplasmosis

Blastomyces

Paracoccidioides brasilienis

Aspergillus fumigatus

Mucor

Rhizopus

Candida cannot be inhaled, it is part of the normal flora of mucous membranes,

but becomes systematic when it mutates from a vegetable into a rhizoid form. In

addition to not being inhaled, it cannot be transmitted person to person.

Often, there is a combination of the above.

Oh, and one more thing, you have asked what enzymes we use. Our main stays are

Houston's Original Peptizyde, HN-Zyme Prime and No Fenol. We have tried the

Kirkman's, but these worked better for us. We are still trialing an enzyme

supplement from CEO and Virastop, haven't made up our minds on those yet. As

money permits, from time to time, we take on a new enzyme supplement just to see

if it has any beneficial effect. I believe using enzymes is more of an artform

than anything else.

There is a wonderful book written by DeFelice called " Enzymes for Autism

and Other Neurological Conditions " . Her method for introduction of enzymes

worked for us. Very good book.

I think, about the candida cleansing, it would be better to first work on diet

and refine enzyme use, because, as you have already found out, small changes in

diet, like your removing honey from Holli's, can knock the yeast back too. There

may be other triggers. Then, after all that, if she is still flaring, consider

moving ahead with the yeast cleansing. But, if you do not remove the triggers,

the yeast will continue to have the upperhand.

Summer

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