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I'm so glad you are okay...horribe experience!!! Wow...

I do have to say that the theory of TMJ sounds fishy...why would that

cause you to pass out and vomit??? I have TMJ myself...the most pain

it has caused me is ear aches and clicking at the jaw joint. TMJ

stands for Temporal Mandibular Joint Syndrome. It is soooo

frustrating not being able to get a straight answer from doctors

these days...I do not have faith in them anymore and haven't for a

long time. I, myself, have found ways to reduce redness and papules

on my skin WITHOUT doctors help. Pretty sad...

I hate to put a negative spin to this email, but I feel your

frustration and hate for people to have to go through all the stuff

you did. Sorry to hear about it and I hope things go smoother for

you...

Shea

> thank you to all who wrote for support. here is what has happened.

>

> went to urgent care day 2 of pain..prescrobed minocycline and

clonodine.

>

> day 3....dermatologist. at this point the swelling was sever, could

not blink or talk that good. redness and burning intense. prescribed

more minocycline and sulfur (did not us the sulfur)

>

> day 4. extreme pain. emergency call to derm (from my dad). told dad

i could be re-evaluated in a week. pissed dad off...threatened to

sue. prescribed prednisone over phone.

>

> DID NOT take prednisone. i told them i do NOT take steroids. this

angered my father even more that they are just pill popping.

>

> DAY 5. ER visit to urgent care. pain unbearable. burning, swelling.

at this point i'm vomiting. have not slept or eaten in 5 days. weak

and dizzy. he prescribes vicodin. gets on phone with chief of

dermatology...says rosacea doesn't do this...

>

> day 6...no sleep dizzy, swelling so bad i can barely talk, pain

incredible, deep red all over face, vomiting. my brother and father

put me in car to take to ER. just after leaving i vomit fluid and

pass out.

>

> drive back home and call 911. ambulance comes. i was extremly

dehydrated...couldn't eat for 6 days....had a hard time breathing

because of the swelling, could not answer simple questions. the

oxygen they gave me helped.

>

> don't remeber what they were saying...that i was symptimatic or

something. something was at 121 just laying down...guessing my heart

rate. blood pressure was to high, blood sugar i think they said was

90...don't know if that is normal or not.

>

> they could not take my temp orally, could not talk hardly at all

now, mouth swollen shut. my body sucked two IV bags dry, 3 shots of

demerol still did not take my pain away. thankfully they put me out

and let me sleep in the ER.

>

> doctor talked again with dermatology, then neurology. came back

with the theroery of TMJ. they prescribed valium, but choose not to

wake me up and let me sleep. when i woke they gave me valium, fell

asleep. quietly moved me to observation room without waking me.

>

> woke up talking better, gave me more demerol, more valium.

>

> i ended up begging to go home. had been there until night time

(arrived at 7 am). talking better, they had me eat some jello. he

stuck with the TMJ diagnosis...which must be really aggravating the

rosacea.

>

> they let me go home and said i could come back if pain

uncontrollable.

>

> have an appointment in neuro on monday. derm appointment yesterday,

gave cleocin t antibiotic. eating, finally went to the bathroom.

>

>

> i know nothing about TMJ. someone said its caused by poor posture.

i have kyphoscoliosis and am in a wheelchair. maybe thats it.

>

>

> my swelling is down and i sleep all the time, mercifully. taking:

vicodin, valium, minocycline, clonodine, aldactone, cleocin T.

>

> dad has calmed down, still furious with derm dept. for not taking

it seriuosly and refering me if they don't know the problem.

>

> so thats it so far. any thoughts?

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

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I'm so glad you are okay...horribe experience!!! Wow...

I do have to say that the theory of TMJ sounds fishy...why would that

cause you to pass out and vomit??? I have TMJ myself...the most pain

it has caused me is ear aches and clicking at the jaw joint. TMJ

stands for Temporal Mandibular Joint Syndrome. It is soooo

frustrating not being able to get a straight answer from doctors

these days...I do not have faith in them anymore and haven't for a

long time. I, myself, have found ways to reduce redness and papules

on my skin WITHOUT doctors help. Pretty sad...

I hate to put a negative spin to this email, but I feel your

frustration and hate for people to have to go through all the stuff

you did. Sorry to hear about it and I hope things go smoother for

you...

Shea

> thank you to all who wrote for support. here is what has happened.

>

> went to urgent care day 2 of pain..prescrobed minocycline and

clonodine.

>

> day 3....dermatologist. at this point the swelling was sever, could

not blink or talk that good. redness and burning intense. prescribed

more minocycline and sulfur (did not us the sulfur)

>

> day 4. extreme pain. emergency call to derm (from my dad). told dad

i could be re-evaluated in a week. pissed dad off...threatened to

sue. prescribed prednisone over phone.

>

> DID NOT take prednisone. i told them i do NOT take steroids. this

angered my father even more that they are just pill popping.

>

> DAY 5. ER visit to urgent care. pain unbearable. burning, swelling.

at this point i'm vomiting. have not slept or eaten in 5 days. weak

and dizzy. he prescribes vicodin. gets on phone with chief of

dermatology...says rosacea doesn't do this...

>

> day 6...no sleep dizzy, swelling so bad i can barely talk, pain

incredible, deep red all over face, vomiting. my brother and father

put me in car to take to ER. just after leaving i vomit fluid and

pass out.

>

> drive back home and call 911. ambulance comes. i was extremly

dehydrated...couldn't eat for 6 days....had a hard time breathing

because of the swelling, could not answer simple questions. the

oxygen they gave me helped.

>

> don't remeber what they were saying...that i was symptimatic or

something. something was at 121 just laying down...guessing my heart

rate. blood pressure was to high, blood sugar i think they said was

90...don't know if that is normal or not.

>

> they could not take my temp orally, could not talk hardly at all

now, mouth swollen shut. my body sucked two IV bags dry, 3 shots of

demerol still did not take my pain away. thankfully they put me out

and let me sleep in the ER.

>

> doctor talked again with dermatology, then neurology. came back

with the theroery of TMJ. they prescribed valium, but choose not to

wake me up and let me sleep. when i woke they gave me valium, fell

asleep. quietly moved me to observation room without waking me.

>

> woke up talking better, gave me more demerol, more valium.

>

> i ended up begging to go home. had been there until night time

(arrived at 7 am). talking better, they had me eat some jello. he

stuck with the TMJ diagnosis...which must be really aggravating the

rosacea.

>

> they let me go home and said i could come back if pain

uncontrollable.

>

> have an appointment in neuro on monday. derm appointment yesterday,

gave cleocin t antibiotic. eating, finally went to the bathroom.

>

>

> i know nothing about TMJ. someone said its caused by poor posture.

i have kyphoscoliosis and am in a wheelchair. maybe thats it.

>

>

> my swelling is down and i sleep all the time, mercifully. taking:

vicodin, valium, minocycline, clonodine, aldactone, cleocin T.

>

> dad has calmed down, still furious with derm dept. for not taking

it seriuosly and refering me if they don't know the problem.

>

> so thats it so far. any thoughts?

>

> Angie

>

>

>

>

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hi

what are the ways you have found to reduce your redness and papules?

tom

[Please post to this list as opposed to me, as my email is down for

the weekend]

> > thank you to all who wrote for support. here is what has happened.

> >

> > went to urgent care day 2 of pain..prescrobed minocycline and

> clonodine.

> >

> > day 3....dermatologist. at this point the swelling was sever,

could

> not blink or talk that good. redness and burning intense.

prescribed

> more minocycline and sulfur (did not us the sulfur)

> >

> > day 4. extreme pain. emergency call to derm (from my dad). told

dad

> i could be re-evaluated in a week. pissed dad off...threatened to

> sue. prescribed prednisone over phone.

> >

> > DID NOT take prednisone. i told them i do NOT take steroids. this

> angered my father even more that they are just pill popping.

> >

> > DAY 5. ER visit to urgent care. pain unbearable. burning,

swelling.

> at this point i'm vomiting. have not slept or eaten in 5 days. weak

> and dizzy. he prescribes vicodin. gets on phone with chief of

> dermatology...says rosacea doesn't do this...

> >

> > day 6...no sleep dizzy, swelling so bad i can barely talk, pain

> incredible, deep red all over face, vomiting. my brother and father

> put me in car to take to ER. just after leaving i vomit fluid and

> pass out.

> >

> > drive back home and call 911. ambulance comes. i was extremly

> dehydrated...couldn't eat for 6 days....had a hard time breathing

> because of the swelling, could not answer simple questions. the

> oxygen they gave me helped.

> >

> > don't remeber what they were saying...that i was symptimatic or

> something. something was at 121 just laying down...guessing my

heart

> rate. blood pressure was to high, blood sugar i think they said was

> 90...don't know if that is normal or not.

> >

> > they could not take my temp orally, could not talk hardly at all

> now, mouth swollen shut. my body sucked two IV bags dry, 3 shots of

> demerol still did not take my pain away. thankfully they put me out

> and let me sleep in the ER.

> >

> > doctor talked again with dermatology, then neurology. came back

> with the theroery of TMJ. they prescribed valium, but choose not to

> wake me up and let me sleep. when i woke they gave me valium, fell

> asleep. quietly moved me to observation room without waking me.

> >

> > woke up talking better, gave me more demerol, more valium.

> >

> > i ended up begging to go home. had been there until night time

> (arrived at 7 am). talking better, they had me eat some jello. he

> stuck with the TMJ diagnosis...which must be really aggravating the

> rosacea.

> >

> > they let me go home and said i could come back if pain

> uncontrollable.

> >

> > have an appointment in neuro on monday. derm appointment

yesterday,

> gave cleocin t antibiotic. eating, finally went to the bathroom.

> >

> >

> > i know nothing about TMJ. someone said its caused by poor

posture.

> i have kyphoscoliosis and am in a wheelchair. maybe thats it.

> >

> >

> > my swelling is down and i sleep all the time, mercifully. taking:

> vicodin, valium, minocycline, clonodine, aldactone, cleocin T.

> >

> > dad has calmed down, still furious with derm dept. for not taking

> it seriuosly and refering me if they don't know the problem.

> >

> > so thats it so far. any thoughts?

> >

> > Angie

> >

> >

> >

> >

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hi

what are the ways you have found to reduce your redness and papules?

tom

[Please post to this list as opposed to me, as my email is down for

the weekend]

> > thank you to all who wrote for support. here is what has happened.

> >

> > went to urgent care day 2 of pain..prescrobed minocycline and

> clonodine.

> >

> > day 3....dermatologist. at this point the swelling was sever,

could

> not blink or talk that good. redness and burning intense.

prescribed

> more minocycline and sulfur (did not us the sulfur)

> >

> > day 4. extreme pain. emergency call to derm (from my dad). told

dad

> i could be re-evaluated in a week. pissed dad off...threatened to

> sue. prescribed prednisone over phone.

> >

> > DID NOT take prednisone. i told them i do NOT take steroids. this

> angered my father even more that they are just pill popping.

> >

> > DAY 5. ER visit to urgent care. pain unbearable. burning,

swelling.

> at this point i'm vomiting. have not slept or eaten in 5 days. weak

> and dizzy. he prescribes vicodin. gets on phone with chief of

> dermatology...says rosacea doesn't do this...

> >

> > day 6...no sleep dizzy, swelling so bad i can barely talk, pain

> incredible, deep red all over face, vomiting. my brother and father

> put me in car to take to ER. just after leaving i vomit fluid and

> pass out.

> >

> > drive back home and call 911. ambulance comes. i was extremly

> dehydrated...couldn't eat for 6 days....had a hard time breathing

> because of the swelling, could not answer simple questions. the

> oxygen they gave me helped.

> >

> > don't remeber what they were saying...that i was symptimatic or

> something. something was at 121 just laying down...guessing my

heart

> rate. blood pressure was to high, blood sugar i think they said was

> 90...don't know if that is normal or not.

> >

> > they could not take my temp orally, could not talk hardly at all

> now, mouth swollen shut. my body sucked two IV bags dry, 3 shots of

> demerol still did not take my pain away. thankfully they put me out

> and let me sleep in the ER.

> >

> > doctor talked again with dermatology, then neurology. came back

> with the theroery of TMJ. they prescribed valium, but choose not to

> wake me up and let me sleep. when i woke they gave me valium, fell

> asleep. quietly moved me to observation room without waking me.

> >

> > woke up talking better, gave me more demerol, more valium.

> >

> > i ended up begging to go home. had been there until night time

> (arrived at 7 am). talking better, they had me eat some jello. he

> stuck with the TMJ diagnosis...which must be really aggravating the

> rosacea.

> >

> > they let me go home and said i could come back if pain

> uncontrollable.

> >

> > have an appointment in neuro on monday. derm appointment

yesterday,

> gave cleocin t antibiotic. eating, finally went to the bathroom.

> >

> >

> > i know nothing about TMJ. someone said its caused by poor

posture.

> i have kyphoscoliosis and am in a wheelchair. maybe thats it.

> >

> >

> > my swelling is down and i sleep all the time, mercifully. taking:

> vicodin, valium, minocycline, clonodine, aldactone, cleocin T.

> >

> > dad has calmed down, still furious with derm dept. for not taking

> it seriuosly and refering me if they don't know the problem.

> >

> > so thats it so far. any thoughts?

> >

> > Angie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________________________________________

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I will honestly tell you that using the Dermalogica products have

helped tremendously for me. I use the " anti-bac cleanser " and " oil

free lotion " every day twice a day. My husband has noticed a

significant change in my skin. I still have " some " bumps of course,

as it is not a cure...but I'm impressed. I don't need a doctor...it

seems I can find more info myself than he!

Shea

> > > thank you to all who wrote for support. here is what has

happened.

> > >

> > > went to urgent care day 2 of pain..prescrobed minocycline and

> > clonodine.

> > >

> > > day 3....dermatologist. at this point the swelling was sever,

> could

> > not blink or talk that good. redness and burning intense.

> prescribed

> > more minocycline and sulfur (did not us the sulfur)

> > >

> > > day 4. extreme pain. emergency call to derm (from my dad). told

> dad

> > i could be re-evaluated in a week. pissed dad off...threatened to

> > sue. prescribed prednisone over phone.

> > >

> > > DID NOT take prednisone. i told them i do NOT take steroids.

this

> > angered my father even more that they are just pill popping.

> > >

> > > DAY 5. ER visit to urgent care. pain unbearable. burning,

> swelling.

> > at this point i'm vomiting. have not slept or eaten in 5 days.

weak

> > and dizzy. he prescribes vicodin. gets on phone with chief of

> > dermatology...says rosacea doesn't do this...

> > >

> > > day 6...no sleep dizzy, swelling so bad i can barely talk, pain

> > incredible, deep red all over face, vomiting. my brother and

father

> > put me in car to take to ER. just after leaving i vomit fluid and

> > pass out.

> > >

> > > drive back home and call 911. ambulance comes. i was extremly

> > dehydrated...couldn't eat for 6 days....had a hard time breathing

> > because of the swelling, could not answer simple questions. the

> > oxygen they gave me helped.

> > >

> > > don't remeber what they were saying...that i was symptimatic or

> > something. something was at 121 just laying down...guessing my

> heart

> > rate. blood pressure was to high, blood sugar i think they said

was

> > 90...don't know if that is normal or not.

> > >

> > > they could not take my temp orally, could not talk hardly at

all

> > now, mouth swollen shut. my body sucked two IV bags dry, 3 shots

of

> > demerol still did not take my pain away. thankfully they put me

out

> > and let me sleep in the ER.

> > >

> > > doctor talked again with dermatology, then neurology. came back

> > with the theroery of TMJ. they prescribed valium, but choose not

to

> > wake me up and let me sleep. when i woke they gave me valium,

fell

> > asleep. quietly moved me to observation room without waking me.

> > >

> > > woke up talking better, gave me more demerol, more valium.

> > >

> > > i ended up begging to go home. had been there until night time

> > (arrived at 7 am). talking better, they had me eat some jello. he

> > stuck with the TMJ diagnosis...which must be really aggravating

the

> > rosacea.

> > >

> > > they let me go home and said i could come back if pain

> > uncontrollable.

> > >

> > > have an appointment in neuro on monday. derm appointment

> yesterday,

> > gave cleocin t antibiotic. eating, finally went to the bathroom.

> > >

> > >

> > > i know nothing about TMJ. someone said its caused by poor

> posture.

> > i have kyphoscoliosis and am in a wheelchair. maybe thats it.

> > >

> > >

> > > my swelling is down and i sleep all the time, mercifully.

taking:

> > vicodin, valium, minocycline, clonodine, aldactone, cleocin T.

> > >

> > > dad has calmed down, still furious with derm dept. for not

taking

> > it seriuosly and refering me if they don't know the problem.

> > >

> > > so thats it so far. any thoughts?

> > >

> > > Angie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________________________________________

> > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!

> > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!

> > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:

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