Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Tobias(5) has really been difficult again the last 5 or so days. I have been trying to figure out what is going on with him. This morning I was about to do a mouth exercise with him, had him open his mouth and his tounge is major thick coated with white, hardly any pink to see. I had backed off on his vit. as he has been really fighting against taking them for 2-3 weeks now. We are back to taking the probiotic 3 x a day starting this morning. Is this what is called thrush? or is it just a symptom of yeast overgroth or are they the same? He has also been complaining a lot of his legs hurting. It was really bad this week end when he was running his high fever, seemed to stop but yesterday and today he was complaining about it again. Can this be conected with yeast or is it just because he is growning really fast again? Sorry to be so ignorant. Sandy M. Whole family SCD in support of 5 yr old who raged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 I can only tell you our experience...the same thing happened about a month after starting the diet. OUr daughter had never had thrush before. I don't know the research of candida, but I wonder if after starting the diet the yeast ventures out....just my own thinking. For our daughter, we had to be really consistent with enzymes, eliminate honey since the yeast had moved upwards, and we began to rotate herbal antifungals....grapes were also a problem. As Summer has said so eloquently, you hvae to observe what is feeding the particular form of yeast. Probiotics are a given. Maybe it would have resolved itself without the above over time, but we couldn't handle the behavior. She is doing much much better now. Just our experience...hope it helps! Kerri My out of it child > Tobias(5) has really been difficult again the last 5 or so days. I > have been trying to figure out what is going on with him. This > morning I was about to do a mouth exercise with him, had him open his > mouth and his tounge is major thick coated with white, hardly any pink > to see. I had backed off on his vit. as he has been really fighting > against taking them for 2-3 weeks now. We are back to taking the > probiotic 3 x a day starting this morning. > > Is this what is called thrush? or is it just a symptom of yeast > overgroth or are they the same? > > He has also been complaining a lot of his legs hurting. It was really > bad this week end when he was running his high fever, seemed to stop > but yesterday and today he was complaining about it again. Can this > be conected with yeast or is it just because he is growning really > fast again? > > Sorry to be so ignorant. > > Sandy M. > Whole family SCD in support of 5 yr old who raged. > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 You are truly not alone. We too had bizzare behavior. IF it wasn't caused by die off it was the yeast and bad gut guys. When ever we saw thrush (and this was only in the beginning and at the two-three month mark that Elaine says can often be a relapse), since we couldn't handle the protease at all in the enzymes (caused a literal celiac crises/uncontrolable diarrhea..not good when you are in the 5th percentile in weight and only 23 months old). We had no choice but to go back to intro and do it by the book. We cut honey down like Elaine says to and no juice...or half and half water if we did. She did OK with Apple suace and Bananas though. She ate mostly meat/eggs and proteins with no ill affect. Even though intro is bland and a pain! It died off in less than three days, the white spots and coated tongue vanished. She is back to her " new " self again. I say " new " because she use to be so sick she never smiled. She now smiles! Even the meds the doctor prescribed made our duahgter made her vomit and get sicker. And we even paid extra to get the darn meds compounded SCD safe. Everyone is different though, some kids here are sicker than others. Ours was possibly sicker..due to damaged gut could not do the enzyems. I don't know if this pertains to you or not. Something will work....starving them always works, if you can deal with the intro for long enough. Sincerely Antoinette (mother of 2 year old celiac/autistic; healing when no other way worked.) She is doing much better now. All outward signs of yeast are gone. > > I can only tell you our experience...the same thing happened about a month > after starting the diet. OUr daughter had never had thrush before. I don't > know the research of candida, but I wonder if after starting the diet the > yeast ventures out....just my own thinking. For our daughter, we had to be > really consistent with enzymes, eliminate honey since the yeast had moved > upwards, and we began to rotate herbal antifungals....grapes were also a > problem. As Summer has said so eloquently, you hvae to observe what is > feeding the particular form of yeast. Probiotics are a given. Maybe it would > have resolved itself without the above over time, but we couldn't handle the > behavior. She is doing much much better now. Just our experience...hope it > helps! > Kerri > My out of it child > > > > Tobias(5) has really been difficult again the last 5 or so days. I > > have been trying to figure out what is going on with him. This > > morning I was about to do a mouth exercise with him, had him open his > > mouth and his tounge is major thick coated with white, hardly any pink > > to see. I had backed off on his vit. as he has been really fighting > > against taking them for 2-3 weeks now. We are back to taking the > > probiotic 3 x a day starting this morning. > > > > Is this what is called thrush? or is it just a symptom of yeast > > overgroth or are they the same? > > > > He has also been complaining a lot of his legs hurting. It was really > > bad this week end when he was running his high fever, seemed to stop > > but yesterday and today he was complaining about it again. Can this > > be conected with yeast or is it just because he is growning really > > fast again? > > > > Sorry to be so ignorant. > > > > Sandy M. > > Whole family SCD in support of 5 yr old who raged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > > websites: > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > and > > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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