Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Here is an old post about chelation I thought those may be interested in. This explains why some may not be having success. It is believed that a child should have healed on the SCDie for a minimum of a year before starting chelation. And that SCD alone is a natural and gentle way to detox the body from junk that doesn't belong in it. And that chelation can cause an overgrowth of the bad guys to come back, and that Elaine didn't like it untill the intestines had HEALED for a minimum of one year and the vicious cycle of bacteria overgrowth had been put into check through this wonderful diet plan. This is also why other plans do not work, because they offer foods that are not monodisacharides, or offer hard to digest food that do not digest and just sit in the child's healing and injured gut to ferment and feed the bad guys! Food that is not digested sits and ferments...so becareful in the beginning to only feed a HEALING child/adult only foods that are SCD safe and easy to digest, allowing as much variety as possible. The phenol/salicylate sensitivity and the oxalate issues will vanish rather FAST on a strict SCDiet....many supposed food intolerances and allergy vanish that first year on a strict SCDiet. Dr. Haas and Elaine said that sensitivity issues can leave as fast as the first month, because sthe gut heals fast with a good introductory...causing a good die off, and aiding in stopping the vicous cycle of bad gut guy overgrowth and allowing the gut to repopulate with the good guys in the yogurt (which by far offers more good guyt guys than any other method). But have your activated charocal handy and epson salts bath soaks ready, because for smoe of us this transisiton can cause " die off " and this appears to be the flu (irritabiltiy, dizzyness, aches, cramps,diarrhea, nausea and more), and can make behaviors worse for a while, untill you get over that initial much needed hump. This is the TRansistion that Elaine warns about in the back of the Autism chapter in her BTVC book. We are now, 2+ months and getting over that initial hump and seeing unbelievaable progress in our Autistic daughter kiki/her diagnosis malabsorption/injured gut/celiac nad Autism. Doing nothing but SCd rigfht now and having this kind of susssess, and also using the SCD 24 hour goat yogurt,with the rendered harmless casein. This yogurt works because unlike probiotic supplements it adds millions of good gut guys (warriors) to fight off teh bad gut guys. We are finnaly winning the war without anything but the SCDiet that saved over 600 children/people in Dr Haas day and have saved thousands since Elaine brought this solution back to us. Sincerely Antoinette HERE THEY ARE (Cut and paste) Chelation and SCD We are starting to naturally chelate my son's gut. We are using vitamin C and cilantro. We keep a careful eye out on his carbs (legal) while doing so to keep the yeast at bay. I think he is so healed, that he is actually absorbing the cilantro and vitamin C and antioxidants he gets via food. I don't think we could have even attempted this prior to being on the diet for over a year. We are seeing great results.. Best wishes,. Jen. Since SCD there has been much more spontaneous, interactive conversation and play as well as an ability to attend. We are also chelating, but we chelated for a year before going on SCD and it is only since SCD that we've noticed the dramatic changes. I think SCD is helping chelate more effectively. Marisol. [Marisol does the DAN protocol] I have no experience with chelation and this is one area in which I dare not get involved. There are many who believe, based on allergists' advice, that the basic problem is accumulation of toxic heavy metals. I, personally, feel that (as in Alzheimer's with aluminum) it is a result of faulty cellular metabolism which is probably due to malabsorption of other nutrients . These essential nutrients which are probably not being absorbed would rid the cells of anything that does not belong in the cells. But, again, I know little more than that. I studied the detoxification systems of the body including the P-450 system of the liver (very dependent on Vitamin C) but feel my information is incomplete. Elaine Gottschall I totally agree with Elaine's view that the gut pathogens /malabsorption problem is destroying our children's ability to detoxify naturally. The DAN doctors ,who are chelating ASD children, have found out that DMSA and ALA increase the gut bugs.They also have found out that increased gut bugs impair detoxification.This information is explained in great detail in Dr Mc Candless' book " Children with Starving Brains " . The best help for chelation is to follow the SCD diet along with your favorite detoxification protocol . Some parents are decideding to skip chelation and to just let the child detox naturally after he is healed by SCD. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Here is an old post about chelation I thought those may be interested in. This explains why some may not be having success. It is believed that a child should have healed on the SCDie for a minimum of a year before starting chelation. And that SCD alone is a natural and gentle way to detox the body from junk that doesn't belong in it. And that chelation can cause an overgrowth of the bad guys to come back, and that Elaine didn't like it untill the intestines had HEALED for a minimum of one year and the vicious cycle of bacteria overgrowth had been put into check through this wonderful diet plan. This is also why other plans do not work, because they offer foods that are not monodisacharides, or offer hard to digest food that do not digest and just sit in the child's healing and injured gut to ferment and feed the bad guys! Food that is not digested sits and ferments...so becareful in the beginning to only feed a HEALING child/adult only foods that are SCD safe and easy to digest, allowing as much variety as possible. The phenol/salicylate sensitivity and the oxalate issues will vanish rather FAST on a strict SCDiet....many supposed food intolerances and allergy vanish that first year on a strict SCDiet. Dr. Haas and Elaine said that sensitivity issues can leave as fast as the first month, because sthe gut heals fast with a good introductory...causing a good die off, and aiding in stopping the vicous cycle of bad gut guy overgrowth and allowing the gut to repopulate with the good guys in the yogurt (which by far offers more good guyt guys than any other method). But have your activated charocal handy and epson salts bath soaks ready, because for smoe of us this transisiton can cause " die off " and this appears to be the flu (irritabiltiy, dizzyness, aches, cramps,diarrhea, nausea and more), and can make behaviors worse for a while, untill you get over that initial much needed hump. This is the TRansistion that Elaine warns about in the back of the Autism chapter in her BTVC book. We are now, 2+ months and getting over that initial hump and seeing unbelievaable progress in our Autistic daughter kiki/her diagnosis malabsorption/injured gut/celiac nad Autism. Doing nothing but SCd rigfht now and having this kind of susssess, and also using the SCD 24 hour goat yogurt,with the rendered harmless casein. This yogurt works because unlike probiotic supplements it adds millions of good gut guys (warriors) to fight off teh bad gut guys. We are finnaly winning the war without anything but the SCDiet that saved over 600 children/people in Dr Haas day and have saved thousands since Elaine brought this solution back to us. Sincerely Antoinette HERE THEY ARE (Cut and paste) Chelation and SCD We are starting to naturally chelate my son's gut. We are using vitamin C and cilantro. We keep a careful eye out on his carbs (legal) while doing so to keep the yeast at bay. I think he is so healed, that he is actually absorbing the cilantro and vitamin C and antioxidants he gets via food. I don't think we could have even attempted this prior to being on the diet for over a year. We are seeing great results.. Best wishes,. Jen. Since SCD there has been much more spontaneous, interactive conversation and play as well as an ability to attend. We are also chelating, but we chelated for a year before going on SCD and it is only since SCD that we've noticed the dramatic changes. I think SCD is helping chelate more effectively. Marisol. [Marisol does the DAN protocol] I have no experience with chelation and this is one area in which I dare not get involved. There are many who believe, based on allergists' advice, that the basic problem is accumulation of toxic heavy metals. I, personally, feel that (as in Alzheimer's with aluminum) it is a result of faulty cellular metabolism which is probably due to malabsorption of other nutrients . These essential nutrients which are probably not being absorbed would rid the cells of anything that does not belong in the cells. But, again, I know little more than that. I studied the detoxification systems of the body including the P-450 system of the liver (very dependent on Vitamin C) but feel my information is incomplete. Elaine Gottschall I totally agree with Elaine's view that the gut pathogens /malabsorption problem is destroying our children's ability to detoxify naturally. The DAN doctors ,who are chelating ASD children, have found out that DMSA and ALA increase the gut bugs.They also have found out that increased gut bugs impair detoxification.This information is explained in great detail in Dr Mc Candless' book " Children with Starving Brains " . The best help for chelation is to follow the SCD diet along with your favorite detoxification protocol . Some parents are decideding to skip chelation and to just let the child detox naturally after he is healed by SCD. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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