Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Dear Cheryl, While 8 tablets may seem excessive, apparently your gastroenterologist feels that this is what is necessary for you to maintain proper digestive absorption. Were you having a lot of diarrhea, or did a fecal fat test indicate poor absorption? Some of us do take large quantities of enzymes. I am on 4-5 capsules of UltraseMT-20's (that means 20,000 units lipase in each capsule, plus 35,000 units amylase and 35,000 protease. Multiply that times 5, and you'll see that it's a lot. If I remember correctly, Viokase-16's have a lower amount of amylase and protease, and of course, 16,000 units of lipase. My GI originally started me on less, but as my pancreatic insufficiency worsened, the amount of enzymes that I need to take increased. It may be that tests have shown the same for you. I have heard of other physicians that recommend that the enzymes also be taken at night, mine doesn't, but understandably, doctors do vary in their treatment. Rantidine is Zantac, and although research has shown that it can cause pancreatitis, apparently this is a low percentage, because I know many of us have been prescribed it by our GI's. Go figure! The reason that an antiacid is necessary with any non-enteric coated enzymes is that the antiacid prevents the acid in the stomach from breaking up the Viokase before it can reach the small intestine to do its work. It is usually recommended that the antiacid be taken 15 minutes-1/2 hour before taking the Viokase. If you are taking an enteric coated enzyme like Ultrase, an antiacid isn't necessary, but I have heard that Viokase helps relieve the pain more than the enteric coated enzymes do. I've taken both, and truly didn't see any difference, but my GI's prefer the Ultrase because of their higher quantities of enzymes. Side effects would be beneficial, at best. The enzymes are supposed to stop the diarrhea and loose stools many of us with CP have, and aid the body to absorb the nutrients, vitamins and minerals we lose by having a poorly functioning pancreas that no longer manufactures these essential digestive enzymes. A drawback for some while taking enzymes is some weight gain, but this actually is a physical benefit, because it means that those essential nutrients are being absorbed. For people like me that suffer from severe malabsorption and are underweight, the enzymes are the only thing that help me to gain or keep any weight on. While I can see this would be a drawback for an overweight person, you need to realize that for the health of your body, they are good for you. If you have any other questions, please write again. With hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina SC & SE Regional Rep PAI, Intl. Note: Comments or advice are personal opinion only, and should not be substituted for professional medical consultation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Dear Cheryl, While 8 tablets may seem excessive, apparently your gastroenterologist feels that this is what is necessary for you to maintain proper digestive absorption. Were you having a lot of diarrhea, or did a fecal fat test indicate poor absorption? Some of us do take large quantities of enzymes. I am on 4-5 capsules of UltraseMT-20's (that means 20,000 units lipase in each capsule, plus 35,000 units amylase and 35,000 protease. Multiply that times 5, and you'll see that it's a lot. If I remember correctly, Viokase-16's have a lower amount of amylase and protease, and of course, 16,000 units of lipase. My GI originally started me on less, but as my pancreatic insufficiency worsened, the amount of enzymes that I need to take increased. It may be that tests have shown the same for you. I have heard of other physicians that recommend that the enzymes also be taken at night, mine doesn't, but understandably, doctors do vary in their treatment. Rantidine is Zantac, and although research has shown that it can cause pancreatitis, apparently this is a low percentage, because I know many of us have been prescribed it by our GI's. Go figure! The reason that an antiacid is necessary with any non-enteric coated enzymes is that the antiacid prevents the acid in the stomach from breaking up the Viokase before it can reach the small intestine to do its work. It is usually recommended that the antiacid be taken 15 minutes-1/2 hour before taking the Viokase. If you are taking an enteric coated enzyme like Ultrase, an antiacid isn't necessary, but I have heard that Viokase helps relieve the pain more than the enteric coated enzymes do. I've taken both, and truly didn't see any difference, but my GI's prefer the Ultrase because of their higher quantities of enzymes. Side effects would be beneficial, at best. The enzymes are supposed to stop the diarrhea and loose stools many of us with CP have, and aid the body to absorb the nutrients, vitamins and minerals we lose by having a poorly functioning pancreas that no longer manufactures these essential digestive enzymes. A drawback for some while taking enzymes is some weight gain, but this actually is a physical benefit, because it means that those essential nutrients are being absorbed. For people like me that suffer from severe malabsorption and are underweight, the enzymes are the only thing that help me to gain or keep any weight on. While I can see this would be a drawback for an overweight person, you need to realize that for the health of your body, they are good for you. If you have any other questions, please write again. With hope and prayers, Heidi Heidi H. Griffeth South Carolina SC & SE Regional Rep PAI, Intl. Note: Comments or advice are personal opinion only, and should not be substituted for professional medical consultation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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