Re: wls patient funeral

[Guest guest]

, I may be childish too, but I wouldn't go either. I would allow them

all to get their anger out about surgery behind my back. That will be part

of healing for the loved ones, but I don't need to be part of it. Just my 2

cents.

Fay Bayuk

300/175

10/23/01

Dr

[Guest guest]

, I may be childish too, but I wouldn't go either. I would allow them

all to get their anger out about surgery behind my back. That will be part

of healing for the loved ones, but I don't need to be part of it. Just my 2

cents.

Fay Bayuk

300/175

10/23/01

Dr

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam, Fay and Judy.....man, what a horrible sleepless night I had.

Pam, you were right about the risks of any surgery. The person who came to

my house last night to inform me of this woman's death felt the need to come

out with it in front of my 4 kids. I immediately had to do some damage

control.....explaining to the youngest that " NO " it cannot still happen to

Mommy 2 years after surgery, and calm the older 2 kid's fears of my possible

upcoming surgery. I was totally panic stricken last night at the thought of

having to go.....I am not necessarily that much better today, but I do feel

a little better about how I might handle comments. I am hoping that this

woman shared her feelings with her family " before " surgery as I suspect most

of us did......I made it very clear to my family that I did not see a

" happy " ending for me at the rate I was going and to try not and have bitter

feelings towards me or the surgeon should anything go wrong. Some

understood, some felt that I was being selfish seeing I had 4 small children

who would rather have me around " FAT " than not at all........some will just

never get it! Thanks for the words of encouragement......I REALLY need

them...... P.

wls patient " funeral "

Man, even though we all now it can happen......it is just horrible

when it does. A friend of my husband and I's lost his sister to WLS

yesterday. Apparently the surgeon " nicked " an artery. She spent a

few days in a coma, came out of it.....then died. I don't know this

womans exact weight and health issues....but I do know that she was

very heavy...if I had to guess I would say in the 500lb range. When

I first met her several years ago she was already not very mobile and

I would say that she was only in her late 30's then. My problem is,

and I could really use some words of wisdom with is......I am scared

to death to go to the wake........isn't that selfish?? She was young

and from a rather well known family here in town....there are going

to be an incredible amount of people there. I am so afraid that the

whole scene is going to be nothing but " bashing " the surgery......are

people who know I had the surgery going to be argumentative towards

me....am I going to be introduced to everybody as a " WLS

person " ......I am just so afraid that I am going to be singled out or

called on the carpet all night to have to defend this. Now don't get

me wrong....I defend this surgery to the hilt.....and am called to do

so often.......but I just don't think that this womans funeral is the

place. Am I being silly or childish or selfish.......I gotta tell

ya....I just don't know if I can go... P.

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam, Fay and Judy.....man, what a horrible sleepless night I had.

Pam, you were right about the risks of any surgery. The person who came to

my house last night to inform me of this woman's death felt the need to come

out with it in front of my 4 kids. I immediately had to do some damage

control.....explaining to the youngest that " NO " it cannot still happen to

Mommy 2 years after surgery, and calm the older 2 kid's fears of my possible

upcoming surgery. I was totally panic stricken last night at the thought of

having to go.....I am not necessarily that much better today, but I do feel

a little better about how I might handle comments. I am hoping that this

woman shared her feelings with her family " before " surgery as I suspect most

of us did......I made it very clear to my family that I did not see a

" happy " ending for me at the rate I was going and to try not and have bitter

feelings towards me or the surgeon should anything go wrong. Some

understood, some felt that I was being selfish seeing I had 4 small children

who would rather have me around " FAT " than not at all........some will just

never get it! Thanks for the words of encouragement......I REALLY need

them...... P.

wls patient " funeral "

Man, even though we all now it can happen......it is just horrible

when it does. A friend of my husband and I's lost his sister to WLS

yesterday. Apparently the surgeon " nicked " an artery. She spent a

few days in a coma, came out of it.....then died. I don't know this

womans exact weight and health issues....but I do know that she was

very heavy...if I had to guess I would say in the 500lb range. When

I first met her several years ago she was already not very mobile and

I would say that she was only in her late 30's then. My problem is,

and I could really use some words of wisdom with is......I am scared

to death to go to the wake........isn't that selfish?? She was young

and from a rather well known family here in town....there are going

to be an incredible amount of people there. I am so afraid that the

whole scene is going to be nothing but " bashing " the surgery......are

people who know I had the surgery going to be argumentative towards

me....am I going to be introduced to everybody as a " WLS

person " ......I am just so afraid that I am going to be singled out or

called on the carpet all night to have to defend this. Now don't get

me wrong....I defend this surgery to the hilt.....and am called to do

so often.......but I just don't think that this womans funeral is the

place. Am I being silly or childish or selfish.......I gotta tell

ya....I just don't know if I can go... P.

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

,

I am so sorry. I have been in your position. As a support group leader I

had a 22 year old post op have a heart attack and die AT MY MEETING. I too

was afraid to go to the viewing and the funeral. Fortunately 's

family was very grateful to our group for taking Steph under our wings and

was very gracious. This was over

1 1/2 years ago and I still keep in touch with her mom.

If you feel that strongly (and I totally understand) arrive as the service

begins - sign the guest book so that they know you were there - and leave.

You do not have to go to the cemetary or socialize with anyone.

Most important thing is that it appears that this was the error of the

surgeon - not the fault of WLS.

Marjie

_________________________________________________________________

Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

[Guest guest]

,

I am so sorry. I have been in your position. As a support group leader I

had a 22 year old post op have a heart attack and die AT MY MEETING. I too

was afraid to go to the viewing and the funeral. Fortunately 's

family was very grateful to our group for taking Steph under our wings and

was very gracious. This was over

1 1/2 years ago and I still keep in touch with her mom.

If you feel that strongly (and I totally understand) arrive as the service

begins - sign the guest book so that they know you were there - and leave.

You do not have to go to the cemetary or socialize with anyone.

Most important thing is that it appears that this was the error of the

surgeon - not the fault of WLS.

Marjie

_________________________________________________________________

Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

[Guest guest]

-

First and foremost, I offer my condolences to your friends family, and I'm

very sorry to you as well for the loss of a friend.

Next ... as we don't know all of the facts, the loss is an unfortunate

outcome of life-saving decision, and not attributed your decision to have

this life-saving surgery. Unfortunately, we cannot foresee the future when

we make these decisions. I know , intellectually, you know this. It is an

unfortunate outcome of a decision to try to improve one's life. Sometimes

things go wrong, as they often do in ALL surgeries or IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.

Please, I do not mean to be cold-hearted, I'm just a realist.

So, I'm not ceep-mom, but the focus should be on the family and their loss,

NOT upon you, the surgery itself, nor you having to even comment (much less

defend) either. I would not even address either issue and deflect any

purported comments. I kinda relate this to back in the days of serious

civil rights issues, and being white, and going to a person-of-color's fune

ral, where the person was killed by a white person. Being one of the very

few whites there and having fingers pointed. But, the focus should be on the

loved ones NOT upon you. Kind of a wierd correlation, but that just came to

mind.

You should go to the wake, in my opinion. Maybe you can find the words, if

you are challenged, to let those know that, again, this is not about you nor

the surgery itself. It's about a loss of a friend, and no amount of pointing

fingers will bring her back.

I totally sympathize with you and applaude your sensitivity. Just my humble

opinion. Good luck.

Bobbie

Anchorge, AK

[Guest guest]

-

First and foremost, I offer my condolences to your friends family, and I'm

very sorry to you as well for the loss of a friend.

Next ... as we don't know all of the facts, the loss is an unfortunate

outcome of life-saving decision, and not attributed your decision to have

this life-saving surgery. Unfortunately, we cannot foresee the future when

we make these decisions. I know , intellectually, you know this. It is an

unfortunate outcome of a decision to try to improve one's life. Sometimes

things go wrong, as they often do in ALL surgeries or IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.

Please, I do not mean to be cold-hearted, I'm just a realist.

So, I'm not ceep-mom, but the focus should be on the family and their loss,

NOT upon you, the surgery itself, nor you having to even comment (much less

defend) either. I would not even address either issue and deflect any

purported comments. I kinda relate this to back in the days of serious

civil rights issues, and being white, and going to a person-of-color's fune

ral, where the person was killed by a white person. Being one of the very

few whites there and having fingers pointed. But, the focus should be on the

loved ones NOT upon you. Kind of a wierd correlation, but that just came to

mind.

You should go to the wake, in my opinion. Maybe you can find the words, if

you are challenged, to let those know that, again, this is not about you nor

the surgery itself. It's about a loss of a friend, and no amount of pointing

fingers will bring her back.

I totally sympathize with you and applaude your sensitivity. Just my humble

opinion. Good luck.

Bobbie

Anchorge, AK

[Guest guest]

,

This is a sad mistake made by the surgeon. The way it sounds though, it had

nothing to do with the type of surgery that was preformed. I immagine that

the risk is there in any surgery. You should not feel the need to defend

WLS. The decision to go to the funeral should purely be based on your

feelings and your need for closure of someone's life.

One of my best friend's died about four years ago after surgery. She was

only 35 at the time. She was undergoing her second lung transplant. The

first one went well and she became a very active and a well person. After a

year and a half, there was a need for a second surgery. She never woke up

from it. She went into a coma and shortly after, died of heart failure. At

her funeral, no one blamed the surgery. It was very sad but the

concentration was on her life and not how she died.

I hope it will be the same for the person you speak of.

Dawn

wls patient " funeral "

> Man, even though we all now it can happen......it is just horrible

> when it does. A friend of my husband and I's lost his sister to WLS

> yesterday. Apparently the surgeon " nicked " an artery. She spent a

> few days in a coma, came out of it.....then died. I don't know this

> womans exact weight and health issues....but I do know that she was

> very heavy...if I had to guess I would say in the 500lb range. When

> I first met her several years ago she was already not very mobile and

> I would say that she was only in her late 30's then. My problem is,

> and I could really use some words of wisdom with is......I am scared

> to death to go to the wake........isn't that selfish?? She was young

> and from a rather well known family here in town....there are going

> to be an incredible amount of people there. I am so afraid that the

> whole scene is going to be nothing but " bashing " the surgery......are

> people who know I had the surgery going to be argumentative towards

> me....am I going to be introduced to everybody as a " WLS

> person " ......I am just so afraid that I am going to be singled out or

> called on the carpet all night to have to defend this. Now don't get

> me wrong....I defend this surgery to the hilt.....and am called to do

> so often.......but I just don't think that this womans funeral is the

> place. Am I being silly or childish or selfish.......I gotta tell

> ya....I just don't know if I can go... P.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

This is a sad mistake made by the surgeon. The way it sounds though, it had

nothing to do with the type of surgery that was preformed. I immagine that

the risk is there in any surgery. You should not feel the need to defend

WLS. The decision to go to the funeral should purely be based on your

feelings and your need for closure of someone's life.

One of my best friend's died about four years ago after surgery. She was

only 35 at the time. She was undergoing her second lung transplant. The

first one went well and she became a very active and a well person. After a

year and a half, there was a need for a second surgery. She never woke up

from it. She went into a coma and shortly after, died of heart failure. At

her funeral, no one blamed the surgery. It was very sad but the

concentration was on her life and not how she died.

I hope it will be the same for the person you speak of.

Dawn

wls patient " funeral "

> Man, even though we all now it can happen......it is just horrible

> when it does. A friend of my husband and I's lost his sister to WLS

> yesterday. Apparently the surgeon " nicked " an artery. She spent a

> few days in a coma, came out of it.....then died. I don't know this

> womans exact weight and health issues....but I do know that she was

> very heavy...if I had to guess I would say in the 500lb range. When

> I first met her several years ago she was already not very mobile and

> I would say that she was only in her late 30's then. My problem is,

> and I could really use some words of wisdom with is......I am scared

> to death to go to the wake........isn't that selfish?? She was young

> and from a rather well known family here in town....there are going

> to be an incredible amount of people there. I am so afraid that the

> whole scene is going to be nothing but " bashing " the surgery......are

> people who know I had the surgery going to be argumentative towards

> me....am I going to be introduced to everybody as a " WLS

> person " ......I am just so afraid that I am going to be singled out or

> called on the carpet all night to have to defend this. Now don't get

> me wrong....I defend this surgery to the hilt.....and am called to do

> so often.......but I just don't think that this womans funeral is the

> place. Am I being silly or childish or selfish.......I gotta tell

> ya....I just don't know if I can go... P.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know many of those local people, and have " launched " quite a few. One did

die a few years ago, and I wondered if my good post-op health might be a

reminder. (actually, have attended more than one of " ours " , but I refer to

this elderly lady)

BUT, although I kept a low profile, stayed out of sight pretty much, the

family all thanked me for coming. She was several years post-op when she

died, and had been in ICU for several weeks.

When my mom died, I was grateful to every single person who came.

It's not about the cause of death, so much as the comfort you bring to the

family just by sitting there quietly. It simply reaffirms that people cared

about your loved one.

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

Re: wls patient " funeral "

> ,

>

> I am so sorry. I have been in your position. As a support group leader I

> had a 22 year old post op have a heart attack and die AT MY MEETING. I

too

> was afraid to go to the viewing and the funeral. Fortunately 's

> family was very grateful to our group for taking Steph under our wings and

> was very gracious. This was over

> 1 1/2 years ago and I still keep in touch with her mom.

>

> If you feel that strongly (and I totally understand) arrive as the service

> begins - sign the guest book so that they know you were there - and leave.

> You do not have to go to the cemetary or socialize with anyone.

>

> Most important thing is that it appears that this was the error of the

> surgeon - not the fault of WLS.

>

> Marjie

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know many of those local people, and have " launched " quite a few. One did

die a few years ago, and I wondered if my good post-op health might be a

reminder. (actually, have attended more than one of " ours " , but I refer to

this elderly lady)

BUT, although I kept a low profile, stayed out of sight pretty much, the

family all thanked me for coming. She was several years post-op when she

died, and had been in ICU for several weeks.

When my mom died, I was grateful to every single person who came.

It's not about the cause of death, so much as the comfort you bring to the

family just by sitting there quietly. It simply reaffirms that people cared

about your loved one.

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

Re: wls patient " funeral "

> ,

>

> I am so sorry. I have been in your position. As a support group leader I

> had a 22 year old post op have a heart attack and die AT MY MEETING. I

too

> was afraid to go to the viewing and the funeral. Fortunately 's

> family was very grateful to our group for taking Steph under our wings and

> was very gracious. This was over

> 1 1/2 years ago and I still keep in touch with her mom.

>

> If you feel that strongly (and I totally understand) arrive as the service

> begins - sign the guest book so that they know you were there - and leave.

> You do not have to go to the cemetary or socialize with anyone.

>

> Most important thing is that it appears that this was the error of the

> surgeon - not the fault of WLS.

>

> Marjie

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bobbie........all sort of thoughts have been going through my mind

today. I feel the same way you do. I am hoping at some point (if they

don't already know) to be able to share with her family the thoughts that

were more than likely going through her head....they were an extremely close

family so I know that they know the toll that her weight was taking on her

life her happiness and her health. I totally understood your analogy with

the black/white funeral......that is actually how I am seeing this. I am

just hoping that those that are " angry " don't see me as a venting board.

Thanks again, I'll let everyone know how it goes............ P.

Re: wls patient " funeral "

> -

>

> First and foremost, I offer my condolences to your friends family, and I'm

> very sorry to you as well for the loss of a friend.

>

> Next ... as we don't know all of the facts, the loss is an unfortunate

> outcome of life-saving decision, and not attributed your decision to

have

> this life-saving surgery. Unfortunately, we cannot foresee the future

when

> we make these decisions. I know , intellectually, you know this. It is

an

> unfortunate outcome of a decision to try to improve one's life. Sometimes

> things go wrong, as they often do in ALL surgeries or IN ALL ASPECTS OF

LIFE.

> Please, I do not mean to be cold-hearted, I'm just a realist.

>

> So, I'm not ceep-mom, but the focus should be on the family and their

loss,

> NOT upon you, the surgery itself, nor you having to even comment (much

less

> defend) either. I would not even address either issue and deflect any

> purported comments. I kinda relate this to back in the days of serious

> civil rights issues, and being white, and going to a person-of-color's

fune

> ral, where the person was killed by a white person. Being one of the very

> few whites there and having fingers pointed. But, the focus should be on

the

> loved ones NOT upon you. Kind of a wierd correlation, but that just came

to

> mind.

>

> You should go to the wake, in my opinion. Maybe you can find the words,

if

> you are challenged, to let those know that, again, this is not about you

nor

> the surgery itself. It's about a loss of a friend, and no amount of

pointing

> fingers will bring her back.

>

> I totally sympathize with you and applaude your sensitivity. Just my

humble

> opinion. Good luck.

>

> Bobbie

> Anchorge, AK

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bobbie........all sort of thoughts have been going through my mind

today. I feel the same way you do. I am hoping at some point (if they

don't already know) to be able to share with her family the thoughts that

were more than likely going through her head....they were an extremely close

family so I know that they know the toll that her weight was taking on her

life her happiness and her health. I totally understood your analogy with

the black/white funeral......that is actually how I am seeing this. I am

just hoping that those that are " angry " don't see me as a venting board.

Thanks again, I'll let everyone know how it goes............ P.

Re: wls patient " funeral "

> -

>

> First and foremost, I offer my condolences to your friends family, and I'm

> very sorry to you as well for the loss of a friend.

>

> Next ... as we don't know all of the facts, the loss is an unfortunate

> outcome of life-saving decision, and not attributed your decision to

have

> this life-saving surgery. Unfortunately, we cannot foresee the future

when

> we make these decisions. I know , intellectually, you know this. It is

an

> unfortunate outcome of a decision to try to improve one's life. Sometimes

> things go wrong, as they often do in ALL surgeries or IN ALL ASPECTS OF

LIFE.

> Please, I do not mean to be cold-hearted, I'm just a realist.

>

> So, I'm not ceep-mom, but the focus should be on the family and their

loss,

> NOT upon you, the surgery itself, nor you having to even comment (much

less

> defend) either. I would not even address either issue and deflect any

> purported comments. I kinda relate this to back in the days of serious

> civil rights issues, and being white, and going to a person-of-color's

fune

> ral, where the person was killed by a white person. Being one of the very

> few whites there and having fingers pointed. But, the focus should be on

the

> loved ones NOT upon you. Kind of a wierd correlation, but that just came

to

> mind.

>

> You should go to the wake, in my opinion. Maybe you can find the words,

if

> you are challenged, to let those know that, again, this is not about you

nor

> the surgery itself. It's about a loss of a friend, and no amount of

pointing

> fingers will bring her back.

>

> I totally sympathize with you and applaude your sensitivity. Just my

humble

> opinion. Good luck.

>

> Bobbie

> Anchorge, AK

[Guest guest]

Oh Marjie......how HORRIBLE........this all does really remind me of the

possible " down side " .......I have been overwhelmed with feeling " sad " about

the end of this woman's hope.....she must have been sooo excited going into

this. I know that she is in a better place.......it's just so sad. You

aren't by any chance near Pgh, PA are you. A few years ago there was a

young girl that died of a heart attack shortly after her WLS......I

" thought " her name was ......the story is on the news here every so

often......wow, what a coincidence.........Thanks for the words of wisdom

and comfort......they are really appreciated........... P.

Re: wls patient " funeral "

> ,

>

> I am so sorry. I have been in your position. As a support group leader I

> had a 22 year old post op have a heart attack and die AT MY MEETING. I

too

> was afraid to go to the viewing and the funeral. Fortunately 's

> family was very grateful to our group for taking Steph under our wings and

> was very gracious. This was over

> 1 1/2 years ago and I still keep in touch with her mom.

>

> If you feel that strongly (and I totally understand) arrive as the service

> begins - sign the guest book so that they know you were there - and leave.

> You do not have to go to the cemetary or socialize with anyone.

>

> Most important thing is that it appears that this was the error of the

> surgeon - not the fault of WLS.

>

> Marjie

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Marjie......how HORRIBLE........this all does really remind me of the

possible " down side " .......I have been overwhelmed with feeling " sad " about

the end of this woman's hope.....she must have been sooo excited going into

this. I know that she is in a better place.......it's just so sad. You

aren't by any chance near Pgh, PA are you. A few years ago there was a

young girl that died of a heart attack shortly after her WLS......I

" thought " her name was ......the story is on the news here every so

often......wow, what a coincidence.........Thanks for the words of wisdom

and comfort......they are really appreciated........... P.

Re: wls patient " funeral "

> ,

>

> I am so sorry. I have been in your position. As a support group leader I

> had a 22 year old post op have a heart attack and die AT MY MEETING. I

too

> was afraid to go to the viewing and the funeral. Fortunately 's

> family was very grateful to our group for taking Steph under our wings and

> was very gracious. This was over

> 1 1/2 years ago and I still keep in touch with her mom.

>

> If you feel that strongly (and I totally understand) arrive as the service

> begins - sign the guest book so that they know you were there - and leave.

> You do not have to go to the cemetary or socialize with anyone.

>

> Most important thing is that it appears that this was the error of the

> surgeon - not the fault of WLS.

>

> Marjie

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:25:27 -0000 " ng5y "

> Anyone who goes into any kind of major surgery not realizing that

> there is a real chance you wont make it is a fool. But the odds are

> that not only will you survive but you will get great rewards from

> the surgery. Otherwise why would any of us do it?

>

>

, this is so true. The other thing is that why would surgeons do

the surgery if there was more likelyhood of us dieing from the surgery

then from the MO. Somewhere along the line more of us survive then not.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:25:27 -0000 " ng5y "

> Anyone who goes into any kind of major surgery not realizing that

> there is a real chance you wont make it is a fool. But the odds are

> that not only will you survive but you will get great rewards from

> the surgery. Otherwise why would any of us do it?

>

>

, this is so true. The other thing is that why would surgeons do

the surgery if there was more likelyhood of us dieing from the surgery

then from the MO. Somewhere along the line more of us survive then not.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

[Guest guest]

>> , this is so true. The other thing is that why would

surgeons do the surgery if there was more likelyhood of us dieing

from the surgery then from the MO. Somewhere along the line more of

us survive then not.

>

*****************

Exactly!

in NJ

[Guest guest]

>> , this is so true. The other thing is that why would

surgeons do the surgery if there was more likelyhood of us dieing

from the surgery then from the MO. Somewhere along the line more of

us survive then not.

>

*****************

Exactly!

in NJ

[Guest guest]

.........this is soooo true!! These are the very thoughts and

sentiments that I hope I can share with her family someday. Thanks for the

input...... P.

wls patient " funeral "

> We all need to take a step back and remeber that we are not

> gaurenteed tomarrow or even an hour from now. We need to live each

> day as though it is our last. I would think going to the furneral

> would be a good thing in that it might show some one that things CAN

> go well.

>

> I was 587 lbs when I had my surgery. I never expected to wake up

> from the surgery. I just didn't want to go on living while being

> inside the prision I had made for myself. Now 295 lbs lighter I can

> do things I didn't even dream about before.

>

> Anyone who goes into any kind of major surgery not realizing that

> there is a real chance you wont make it is a fool. But the odds are

> that not only will you survive but you will get great rewards from

> the surgery. Otherwise why would any of us do it?

>

>

> http://home.attbi.com/~ayoder/index.html

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

.........this is soooo true!! These are the very thoughts and

sentiments that I hope I can share with her family someday. Thanks for the

input...... P.

wls patient " funeral "

> We all need to take a step back and remeber that we are not

> gaurenteed tomarrow or even an hour from now. We need to live each

> day as though it is our last. I would think going to the furneral

> would be a good thing in that it might show some one that things CAN

> go well.

>

> I was 587 lbs when I had my surgery. I never expected to wake up

> from the surgery. I just didn't want to go on living while being

> inside the prision I had made for myself. Now 295 lbs lighter I can

> do things I didn't even dream about before.

>

> Anyone who goes into any kind of major surgery not realizing that

> there is a real chance you wont make it is a fool. But the odds are

> that not only will you survive but you will get great rewards from

> the surgery. Otherwise why would any of us do it?

>

>

> http://home.attbi.com/~ayoder/index.html

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>