Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times ... but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment ... in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ). Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS ... a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times ... but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment ... in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ). Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS ... a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/2004 12:09:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, jclinton@... writes: > Mandy, I knew you'd come through on this subject you know Joan, I am so embarrassed sometimes, shame is there too, when I lay my " stuff " out on the table for everyone to ogle ... touch ... judge. But, too, I have a deep compassion for those who's struggles are similar to mine..... you have ALWAYS been so very gracious with me during these times when I muster the courage to peek my head from out from underneath my own " food closet " .....and I want you to know, Joan, how deeply grateful I am to you for your, always, always , supportive and ..... unjudging ways. ** hugs from Mandy .. and of course!! ...yes, yes yes... Skinny Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/2004 12:09:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, jclinton@... writes: > Mandy, I knew you'd come through on this subject you know Joan, I am so embarrassed sometimes, shame is there too, when I lay my " stuff " out on the table for everyone to ogle ... touch ... judge. But, too, I have a deep compassion for those who's struggles are similar to mine..... you have ALWAYS been so very gracious with me during these times when I muster the courage to peek my head from out from underneath my own " food closet " .....and I want you to know, Joan, how deeply grateful I am to you for your, always, always , supportive and ..... unjudging ways. ** hugs from Mandy .. and of course!! ...yes, yes yes... Skinny Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/2004 12:12:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, susan@... writes: > When did you > have your surgery done? > ohh heavens, it feels as though it was forever ago, , .... 6yrs ago is when I hit bottom .. turned fourty and decided to " live out " the remainder of my life ... rather than EAT the years away..... thank you for the thumbs up Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA ' 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/2004 12:12:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, susan@... writes: > When did you > have your surgery done? > ohh heavens, it feels as though it was forever ago, , .... 6yrs ago is when I hit bottom .. turned fourty and decided to " live out " the remainder of my life ... rather than EAT the years away..... thank you for the thumbs up Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA ' 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Wow! I'm not at that point yet, but I'd imagine when you get to your goal weight, it's time to stop. I'm also assuming that to stop the losing, you'd need to consume more calories. And if I don't know what I'm talking about, someone on here will. LOL But, congrats on a great WL! Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 How do you stop?? I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Wow! I'm not at that point yet, but I'd imagine when you get to your goal weight, it's time to stop. I'm also assuming that to stop the losing, you'd need to consume more calories. And if I don't know what I'm talking about, someone on here will. LOL But, congrats on a great WL! Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 How do you stop?? I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 140 pounds sounds great! But you didn't tell us what your starting weight and goal is. Most of us want to lose at least that amount :-) What did your doctor or nutrionist say you should lose. They should be able to tell you if you are losing too much. I've been told that everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we have to WORK to lose anymore weight. Good luck Bridget > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 140 pounds sounds great! But you didn't tell us what your starting weight and goal is. Most of us want to lose at least that amount :-) What did your doctor or nutrionist say you should lose. They should be able to tell you if you are losing too much. I've been told that everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we have to WORK to lose anymore weight. Good luck Bridget > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I believe what the others said is correct but to add, I think your body also knows set points and there generally is a place where it feels done. There have been people but very few that continued loosing weight to the point of looking so sickly almost skeleton like, and I've seen pictures, but with doctor supervision, good nutrition including more calories, carbos, etc., all fell into place and bodies managed to get to a higher weight and stableized. It's almost like having an internal thermostat. I also believe that if a person manages what they eat, using common since and good nutrition habits, leaving old habits behind, it will all be well and good for the rest of your life. How do you stop?? I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I believe what the others said is correct but to add, I think your body also knows set points and there generally is a place where it feels done. There have been people but very few that continued loosing weight to the point of looking so sickly almost skeleton like, and I've seen pictures, but with doctor supervision, good nutrition including more calories, carbos, etc., all fell into place and bodies managed to get to a higher weight and stableized. It's almost like having an internal thermostat. I also believe that if a person manages what they eat, using common since and good nutrition habits, leaving old habits behind, it will all be well and good for the rest of your life. How do you stop?? I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, that was so beauifully put thanks for sharing. When did you have your surgery done? Re: Re: How do you stop?? In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times ... but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment ... in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ). Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS .... a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, that was so beauifully put thanks for sharing. When did you have your surgery done? Re: Re: How do you stop?? In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times ... but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment ... in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ). Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS .... a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, I knew you'd come through on this subject. Very good! I've copied it into my file for future reference. Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Re: Re: How do you stop?? In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times .... but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment .... in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ). Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS .... a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, I knew you'd come through on this subject. Very good! I've copied it into my file for future reference. Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Re: Re: How do you stop?? In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times .... but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment .... in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ). Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS .... a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, You always manage to say something that hits home for me. I am so excited for this whole process, but so nervous about so many of the pieces. I know it isn't a magic pill and I know that I will have to work hard to achieve what I want, but finding the right balance between it all seems sooooo scary at times. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, it helps so much. pre-op 2-5-04 -- Re: Re: How do you stop?? In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times .. but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment . .. in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ) Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS .. a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, You always manage to say something that hits home for me. I am so excited for this whole process, but so nervous about so many of the pieces. I know it isn't a magic pill and I know that I will have to work hard to achieve what I want, but finding the right balance between it all seems sooooo scary at times. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, it helps so much. pre-op 2-5-04 -- Re: Re: How do you stop?? In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:48:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, bridgetnortham@... writes: > I've been told that > everyone stabilizes after 1year to 2 years and after that time we > have to WORK to lose anymore weight. > I remember having to WORK harder after WLS to bridge the gap between food, and real living... and making peace with no longer being able to turn to food as my personal refuge. The by-pass helped, yes, with the biochemical hunger and the initial weight did fly off fast ... a euphoria that kept me going during the rough times .. but too, the emotional hunger which accompanied this .... pouch adjustment . .. in the beginning, was in a word .....hellish for me. VERY HARD. So, for anyone who thinks ... WLS is the an easy way to go .. its not easy....its simply addresses the real problems behind obesity...... FAST .. aka, " cold turkey " . I would bet my last nickel, Bridget .... that EVERYONE who has gone through WLS has worked harder on themselves after surgery than they ever have in their life time. I know I had to, and I am still working hard.....because this journey we are all on ... is about so much more than losing the weight. Its about living. A word about going to the opposite extreme; for some of us food was a comfort, a resource for the regulation of our internal world ( how we felt ) Not feeding oneself, is also an attempt at controlling that internal world, .. its subtle... but really its very much the same thing. The pendulum does swing the other way ... its called anorexia . ** so to all of you struggling with this often missed subtlety after WLS .. a thousand hugs from me to you. Balance, finding it without food ... is so much harder for some of us than others. Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA 275/144/126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, I'm glad it comes out as supportive and unjudging. Sometimes I don't think things through, and just type away....and wonder later if I said something that came out wrong....just my insecurities coming out. This site to me is as important as the surgery itself. It keeps me on my toes, and watching what enters my mouth. The support is incredible! Despite all the education on the subject of the surgery and what to eat, it just doesn't compare to the ideas and support of this group. Thanks to everyone! Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Mandy, I'm glad it comes out as supportive and unjudging. Sometimes I don't think things through, and just type away....and wonder later if I said something that came out wrong....just my insecurities coming out. This site to me is as important as the surgery itself. It keeps me on my toes, and watching what enters my mouth. The support is incredible! Despite all the education on the subject of the surgery and what to eat, it just doesn't compare to the ideas and support of this group. Thanks to everyone! Joan LAP RNY 11/18/03 Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA 282pre-op/275surg/236/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 My doc says your weight loss stops when the calories in (what you eat) is equal to the calories out (how much you burn when you function daily). Your body knows when to stop. When it can use just what you eat! Congrats on the loss! LV, NV Dr fisher 11/18/03 289 pre-op/274 hosp/230 current http://busymomma.4t.com > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 My doc says your weight loss stops when the calories in (what you eat) is equal to the calories out (how much you burn when you function daily). Your body knows when to stop. When it can use just what you eat! Congrats on the loss! LV, NV Dr fisher 11/18/03 289 pre-op/274 hosp/230 current http://busymomma.4t.com > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 congrats onyour success & welcome. lori h. > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 congrats onyour success & welcome. lori h. > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 > > I am new to this group and had my bypass in Jan of 2003. I have > > lost over 140lbs. When or how do you stop losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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