Re: I'm back from having my TT

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In a message dated 3/8/2003 4:35:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ng5y@...

writes:

> I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall experiance thus far of

> the WLS versus the plactic work...

>

>

Hi - always a personal experience. I have a fairly high pain

threshhold, and thought that my hernia repair repair and abdominoplasty was

much more difficult to recover from than my original lap bypass surgery. The

first 24 hours after surgery, the actual pain was worse with the bypass (I

refused to take pain meds after by bypass, but that's another story), and it

was very very bad. But with the reconstructive surgery, the overall pain

went on for much longer, and I ended up using pain meds for the first time in

my life for a week!

I think most of my pain stemmed from the repair work done to my upper

abdominal muscles to pull them back into the right place, and most people

don't have that done.

Kate

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/2003 4:35:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ng5y@...

writes:

> I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall experiance thus far of

> the WLS versus the plactic work...

>

>

Hi - always a personal experience. I have a fairly high pain

threshhold, and thought that my hernia repair repair and abdominoplasty was

much more difficult to recover from than my original lap bypass surgery. The

first 24 hours after surgery, the actual pain was worse with the bypass (I

refused to take pain meds after by bypass, but that's another story), and it

was very very bad. But with the reconstructive surgery, the overall pain

went on for much longer, and I ended up using pain meds for the first time in

my life for a week!

I think most of my pain stemmed from the repair work done to my upper

abdominal muscles to pull them back into the right place, and most people

don't have that done.

Kate

[Guest guest]

CONGRATS!!!

Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

> <first off, excuse me for any spelling errors due to the great

drugs

> I am on>. My hernia repair/tummy tuck went very well. The Dr.

said

> that he couldn't believe that I was so tiny and very elasticity so

> I'm pulled very tight (and how so). I only have on drain, but did

go

> home with a Foley (catheter) because it's normal for me not to be

> able to pee after any surgery. Took it out myself last night and

> have been peeing on my own (YIPPEE). I go in Monday to hopefully

get

> my stitches and drain out, but we'll see. I'm only havuing onne

> problem with one area around my rightg hiip area that when I stand

or

> walk it feels like its burning, but found that if I put ice on it,

it

> feels great. Other than that, I'm just drinking my proteimn

shakes,

> getting in my vits and my drugs (can't u tell with my wonderful

> dtyping)l. Not much hungry for food, but have had some jello and

> soup. ANyways, just thought I say I made it and finaloly home

after

> only one day in the hospital. Love you all.

[Guest guest]

CONGRATS!!!

Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

> <first off, excuse me for any spelling errors due to the great

drugs

> I am on>. My hernia repair/tummy tuck went very well. The Dr.

said

> that he couldn't believe that I was so tiny and very elasticity so

> I'm pulled very tight (and how so). I only have on drain, but did

go

> home with a Foley (catheter) because it's normal for me not to be

> able to pee after any surgery. Took it out myself last night and

> have been peeing on my own (YIPPEE). I go in Monday to hopefully

get

> my stitches and drain out, but we'll see. I'm only havuing onne

> problem with one area around my rightg hiip area that when I stand

or

> walk it feels like its burning, but found that if I put ice on it,

it

> feels great. Other than that, I'm just drinking my proteimn

shakes,

> getting in my vits and my drugs (can't u tell with my wonderful

> dtyping)l. Not much hungry for food, but have had some jello and

> soup. ANyways, just thought I say I made it and finaloly home

after

> only one day in the hospital. Love you all.

[Guest guest]

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I'm just over 3 weeks post-op Panniculectomy (full panni with upper abdomen),

done 2/14. Waited for Panni until I was 21 months Post-WLS.

I'm known to have a VERY high pain threshold (and very hard head) (unless

we're talking papercuts, then I bitch all day!). =)

For me, my OPEN proximal RNY, performed 5-11-01, was a 9 on the 1-10 pain

scale. Out of the hospital in 2 days (me being hardheaded). Couldn't sleep

for weeks, couldn't situp without help, couldn't get in/out of bed,

everything I needed help with (even, excuse me, even wiping my own butt - God

bless my husband). Even after a C-section (where epideral ran OUT prior to

cutting me open - OUCH, thought I'd die and THAT set the standard for pain,

that WAS A 10), I thought my gastric bypass would be EASY. Nope, to me, it

was a 9!!

Now, Panniculectomy, despite what I've heard, was a PIECE OF CAKE. To me, it

was a WALK IN THE PARK!

Up walking 2 hrs after recovery. Stooped over, nonetheless, from tight

belly, but up walking. Never had bed pan, every 20 minutes walking to potty

alone. Out of hospital in 23 hours, could have left earlier. Pain scale

2-3, honest to God. Home pain scale 0-1. Immediately stopped 'drip "

morphine after they took me to my room. Just dug in. Went home on Vicodin

7.5. Used sporatically to sleep.

Just my opinion. Panni was not bad at all!!

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/8/03 6:05:44 AM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<<Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

>>

[Guest guest]

-

I'm just over 3 weeks post-op Panniculectomy (full panni with upper abdomen),

done 2/14. Waited for Panni until I was 21 months Post-WLS.

I'm known to have a VERY high pain threshold (and very hard head) (unless

we're talking papercuts, then I bitch all day!). =)

For me, my OPEN proximal RNY, performed 5-11-01, was a 9 on the 1-10 pain

scale. Out of the hospital in 2 days (me being hardheaded). Couldn't sleep

for weeks, couldn't situp without help, couldn't get in/out of bed,

everything I needed help with (even, excuse me, even wiping my own butt - God

bless my husband). Even after a C-section (where epideral ran OUT prior to

cutting me open - OUCH, thought I'd die and THAT set the standard for pain,

that WAS A 10), I thought my gastric bypass would be EASY. Nope, to me, it

was a 9!!

Now, Panniculectomy, despite what I've heard, was a PIECE OF CAKE. To me, it

was a WALK IN THE PARK!

Up walking 2 hrs after recovery. Stooped over, nonetheless, from tight

belly, but up walking. Never had bed pan, every 20 minutes walking to potty

alone. Out of hospital in 23 hours, could have left earlier. Pain scale

2-3, honest to God. Home pain scale 0-1. Immediately stopped 'drip "

morphine after they took me to my room. Just dug in. Went home on Vicodin

7.5. Used sporatically to sleep.

Just my opinion. Panni was not bad at all!!

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/8/03 6:05:44 AM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<<Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

>>

[Guest guest]

Glad your home safe and sound.......you are going to LOVE that new flat

tummy. !! P.

I'm back from having my TT

> <first off, excuse me for any spelling errors due to the great drugs

> I am on>. My hernia repair/tummy tuck went very well. The Dr. said

> that he couldn't believe that I was so tiny and very elasticity so

> I'm pulled very tight (and how so). I only have on drain, but did go

> home with a Foley (catheter) because it's normal for me not to be

> able to pee after any surgery. Took it out myself last night and

> have been peeing on my own (YIPPEE). I go in Monday to hopefully get

> my stitches and drain out, but we'll see. I'm only havuing onne

> problem with one area around my rightg hiip area that when I stand or

> walk it feels like its burning, but found that if I put ice on it, it

> feels great. Other than that, I'm just drinking my proteimn shakes,

> getting in my vits and my drugs (can't u tell with my wonderful

> dtyping)l. Not much hungry for food, but have had some jello and

> soup. ANyways, just thought I say I made it and finaloly home after

> only one day in the hospital. Love you all.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Glad your home safe and sound.......you are going to LOVE that new flat

tummy. !! P.

I'm back from having my TT

> <first off, excuse me for any spelling errors due to the great drugs

> I am on>. My hernia repair/tummy tuck went very well. The Dr. said

> that he couldn't believe that I was so tiny and very elasticity so

> I'm pulled very tight (and how so). I only have on drain, but did go

> home with a Foley (catheter) because it's normal for me not to be

> able to pee after any surgery. Took it out myself last night and

> have been peeing on my own (YIPPEE). I go in Monday to hopefully get

> my stitches and drain out, but we'll see. I'm only havuing onne

> problem with one area around my rightg hiip area that when I stand or

> walk it feels like its burning, but found that if I put ice on it, it

> feels great. Other than that, I'm just drinking my proteimn shakes,

> getting in my vits and my drugs (can't u tell with my wonderful

> dtyping)l. Not much hungry for food, but have had some jello and

> soup. ANyways, just thought I say I made it and finaloly home after

> only one day in the hospital. Love you all.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kate, & All --

You know, I've monitored this WLS vs. PS (panni/abdominoplasty) pain issue

for sometime. Here are my thoughts.

Those that had a " closed " or LAP RNY gastric bypass surgery, always rate the

plastic/reconstructive surgery (panni/abdom.) as a significantly MORE painful

surgery (because Lap is significantly less invasive).

Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS OUT TO CHECK

THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND REPAIR THE CUT MUSCLE

WALLS that got them in there), always rate the plastic/reconstructive surgery

(panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

I believe this to be due to the severe invasiveness of the OPEN vs. the LAP.

OPEN is much more invasive, however I'd take it over the Lap any day. (I

want the docs to " see " everything " in person " when it comes to this surgery

and not just work with a scope.)

Again, I just had my Panni, and my pain with that was very LOW. My pain with

my OPEN Proximal RNY was VERY HIGH.

So, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/8/2003 4:35:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ng5y@...

writes:

> I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall experiance thus far of

> the WLS versus the plactic work...

Hi - always a personal experience. I have a fairly high pain

threshhold, and thought that my hernia repair repair and abdominoplasty was

much more difficult to recover from than my original lap bypass surgery. The

first 24 hours after surgery, the actual pain was worse with the bypass (I

refused to take pain meds after by bypass, but that's another story), and it

was very very bad. But with the reconstructive surgery, the overall pain

went on for much longer, and I ended up using pain meds for the first time in

my life for a week!

I think most of my pain stemmed from the repair work done to my upper

abdominal muscles to pull them back into the right place, and most people

don't have that done.

Kate >>

[Guest guest]

Kate, & All --

You know, I've monitored this WLS vs. PS (panni/abdominoplasty) pain issue

for sometime. Here are my thoughts.

Those that had a " closed " or LAP RNY gastric bypass surgery, always rate the

plastic/reconstructive surgery (panni/abdom.) as a significantly MORE painful

surgery (because Lap is significantly less invasive).

Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS OUT TO CHECK

THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND REPAIR THE CUT MUSCLE

WALLS that got them in there), always rate the plastic/reconstructive surgery

(panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

I believe this to be due to the severe invasiveness of the OPEN vs. the LAP.

OPEN is much more invasive, however I'd take it over the Lap any day. (I

want the docs to " see " everything " in person " when it comes to this surgery

and not just work with a scope.)

Again, I just had my Panni, and my pain with that was very LOW. My pain with

my OPEN Proximal RNY was VERY HIGH.

So, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/8/2003 4:35:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ng5y@...

writes:

> I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall experiance thus far of

> the WLS versus the plactic work...

Hi - always a personal experience. I have a fairly high pain

threshhold, and thought that my hernia repair repair and abdominoplasty was

much more difficult to recover from than my original lap bypass surgery. The

first 24 hours after surgery, the actual pain was worse with the bypass (I

refused to take pain meds after by bypass, but that's another story), and it

was very very bad. But with the reconstructive surgery, the overall pain

went on for much longer, and I ended up using pain meds for the first time in

my life for a week!

I think most of my pain stemmed from the repair work done to my upper

abdominal muscles to pull them back into the right place, and most people

don't have that done.

Kate >>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/03 2:32:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

WRC@... writes:

> Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS OUT TO

> CHECK

> THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND REPAIR THE CUT

> MUSCLE

> WALLS that got them in there), always rate the plastic/reconstructive

> surgery

> (panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

>

Actually, this wasn't the case for me. My tummy tuck/thighlift/hernia

repair/bladder lift was more painful than my open RNY. Could have been due to

the extensiveness of the plastics OR the fact that my wls surgeon is a petite

woman with hands smaller than my 8-year-old's. My open RNY incision is only

three inches long. But the pain from that load of plastics was very rough.

In separate surgeries I had breast lift/implanst and an arm lift. Neither of

those were particularly painful after the first day or so.

hugs,

Ann

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/03 2:32:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

WRC@... writes:

> Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS OUT TO

> CHECK

> THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND REPAIR THE CUT

> MUSCLE

> WALLS that got them in there), always rate the plastic/reconstructive

> surgery

> (panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

>

Actually, this wasn't the case for me. My tummy tuck/thighlift/hernia

repair/bladder lift was more painful than my open RNY. Could have been due to

the extensiveness of the plastics OR the fact that my wls surgeon is a petite

woman with hands smaller than my 8-year-old's. My open RNY incision is only

three inches long. But the pain from that load of plastics was very rough.

In separate surgeries I had breast lift/implanst and an arm lift. Neither of

those were particularly painful after the first day or so.

hugs,

Ann

[Guest guest]

I did not have a full tt. I have only had the panniculectomy done. If

I had to rate it though, I would say the WLS was about an 8 and the panni

was about a 5 on a scale of 10.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 12:33:51 -0000 " ng5y " writes:

> CONGRATS!!!

>

> Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

> threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

>

> my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

> broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

>

> experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > <first off, excuse me for any spelling errors due to the great

> drugs

> > I am on>. My hernia repair/tummy tuck went very well. The Dr.

> said

> > that he couldn't believe that I was so tiny and very elasticity so

>

> > I'm pulled very tight (and how so). I only have on drain, but did

>

> go

> > home with a Foley (catheter) because it's normal for me not to be

>

> > able to pee after any surgery. Took it out myself last night and

>

> > have been peeing on my own (YIPPEE). I go in Monday to hopefully

>

> get

> > my stitches and drain out, but we'll see. I'm only havuing onne

> > problem with one area around my rightg hiip area that when I stand

>

> or

> > walk it feels like its burning, but found that if I put ice on it,

>

> it

> > feels great. Other than that, I'm just drinking my proteimn

> shakes,

> > getting in my vits and my drugs (can't u tell with my wonderful

> > dtyping)l. Not much hungry for food, but have had some jello and

>

> > soup. ANyways, just thought I say I made it and finaloly home

> after

> > only one day in the hospital. Love you all.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I did not have a full tt. I have only had the panniculectomy done. If

I had to rate it though, I would say the WLS was about an 8 and the panni

was about a 5 on a scale of 10.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 12:33:51 -0000 " ng5y " writes:

> CONGRATS!!!

>

> Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

> threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

>

> my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

> broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

>

> experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > <first off, excuse me for any spelling errors due to the great

> drugs

> > I am on>. My hernia repair/tummy tuck went very well. The Dr.

> said

> > that he couldn't believe that I was so tiny and very elasticity so

>

> > I'm pulled very tight (and how so). I only have on drain, but did

>

> go

> > home with a Foley (catheter) because it's normal for me not to be

>

> > able to pee after any surgery. Took it out myself last night and

>

> > have been peeing on my own (YIPPEE). I go in Monday to hopefully

>

> get

> > my stitches and drain out, but we'll see. I'm only havuing onne

> > problem with one area around my rightg hiip area that when I stand

>

> or

> > walk it feels like its burning, but found that if I put ice on it,

>

> it

> > feels great. Other than that, I'm just drinking my proteimn

> shakes,

> > getting in my vits and my drugs (can't u tell with my wonderful

> > dtyping)l. Not much hungry for food, but have had some jello and

>

> > soup. ANyways, just thought I say I made it and finaloly home

> after

> > only one day in the hospital. Love you all.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

- As far as what I would rate this compared to my gastric surgery, this

much harder. I believe the reason being is that I was in the hospital for 4

days on morphine before, while I was only on morphine one day. I did, however,

have to go home with a catheter due to no being able to urinate, but since we

took that out, thing are " running " great. I'm currently on vicodin for pain and

valium for muscle spasms and an antibiotic so my days are pretty much a blur.'

THank again for writing. I appreviate all the well wishes I've been getting

(sorry for misspelling -- drug related).

CONGRATS!!!

Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

[Guest guest]

- As far as what I would rate this compared to my gastric surgery, this

much harder. I believe the reason being is that I was in the hospital for 4

days on morphine before, while I was only on morphine one day. I did, however,

have to go home with a catheter due to no being able to urinate, but since we

took that out, thing are " running " great. I'm currently on vicodin for pain and

valium for muscle spasms and an antibiotic so my days are pretty much a blur.'

THank again for writing. I appreviate all the well wishes I've been getting

(sorry for misspelling -- drug related).

CONGRATS!!!

Well this is something I want to do in the future. I have a high

threshold of pain and once drug myself 1/2 mile to help when I broke

my leg but my WLS was 10,000 times more painful to me than the

broken leg was. I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall

experiance thus far of the WLS versus the plactic work...

[Guest guest]

I have to disagree here. I had an open RNY on 9/26/00 and a TT (skin

removal with muscle repair) 9/26/02 (on my 2 year anniversary). I have to

say that the TT was 10x MORE painful than anything I've ever experienced in

my life - including giving birth to 3 kids, gall bladder attacks,

appendicitis, and all my other surgeries.

It's completely a personal thing. I used to say that it had to do with the

fact that I had muscle repair done as well as the skin removal, but I've

since learned that there are people who have had the TT/muscle repair who

have experienced very little pain. Of course they didn't use the same

surgeon that I did. I haven't met ANYONE who had their TT done by my

surgeon who said that it wasn't painful. I also haven't met anyone who used

my surgeon who said that it wasn't worth it either. Three weeks of pain for

incredible results is a perfectly fair trade to me. And I know that the

results last, I've seen people who had their TT's done by him years ago and

they're as tight as flat as me. Pretty cool.

Anyway, we're all different. I always thought that I had an extremely high

pain threshold until I had my TT. Then I turned into a morphine pump

addict.

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Re: I'm back from having my TT

Kate, & All --

You know, I've monitored this WLS vs. PS (panni/abdominoplasty) pain issue

for sometime. Here are my thoughts.

Those that had a " closed " or LAP RNY gastric bypass surgery, always rate the

plastic/reconstructive surgery (panni/abdom.) as a significantly MORE

painful

surgery (because Lap is significantly less invasive).

Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS OUT TO

CHECK

THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND REPAIR THE CUT MUSCLE

WALLS that got them in there), always rate the plastic/reconstructive

surgery

(panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

I believe this to be due to the severe invasiveness of the OPEN vs. the LAP.

OPEN is much more invasive, however I'd take it over the Lap any day. (I

want the docs to " see " everything " in person " when it comes to this surgery

and not just work with a scope.)

Again, I just had my Panni, and my pain with that was very LOW. My pain

with

my OPEN Proximal RNY was VERY HIGH.

So, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/8/2003 4:35:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ng5y@...

writes:

> I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall experiance thus far

of

> the WLS versus the plactic work...

Hi - always a personal experience. I have a fairly high pain

threshhold, and thought that my hernia repair repair and abdominoplasty was

much more difficult to recover from than my original lap bypass surgery.

The

first 24 hours after surgery, the actual pain was worse with the bypass (I

refused to take pain meds after by bypass, but that's another story), and it

was very very bad. But with the reconstructive surgery, the overall pain

went on for much longer, and I ended up using pain meds for the first time

in

my life for a week!

I think most of my pain stemmed from the repair work done to my upper

abdominal muscles to pull them back into the right place, and most people

don't have that done.

Kate >>

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

I have to disagree here. I had an open RNY on 9/26/00 and a TT (skin

removal with muscle repair) 9/26/02 (on my 2 year anniversary). I have to

say that the TT was 10x MORE painful than anything I've ever experienced in

my life - including giving birth to 3 kids, gall bladder attacks,

appendicitis, and all my other surgeries.

It's completely a personal thing. I used to say that it had to do with the

fact that I had muscle repair done as well as the skin removal, but I've

since learned that there are people who have had the TT/muscle repair who

have experienced very little pain. Of course they didn't use the same

surgeon that I did. I haven't met ANYONE who had their TT done by my

surgeon who said that it wasn't painful. I also haven't met anyone who used

my surgeon who said that it wasn't worth it either. Three weeks of pain for

incredible results is a perfectly fair trade to me. And I know that the

results last, I've seen people who had their TT's done by him years ago and

they're as tight as flat as me. Pretty cool.

Anyway, we're all different. I always thought that I had an extremely high

pain threshold until I had my TT. Then I turned into a morphine pump

addict.

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Re: I'm back from having my TT

Kate, & All --

You know, I've monitored this WLS vs. PS (panni/abdominoplasty) pain issue

for sometime. Here are my thoughts.

Those that had a " closed " or LAP RNY gastric bypass surgery, always rate the

plastic/reconstructive surgery (panni/abdom.) as a significantly MORE

painful

surgery (because Lap is significantly less invasive).

Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS OUT TO

CHECK

THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND REPAIR THE CUT MUSCLE

WALLS that got them in there), always rate the plastic/reconstructive

surgery

(panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

I believe this to be due to the severe invasiveness of the OPEN vs. the LAP.

OPEN is much more invasive, however I'd take it over the Lap any day. (I

want the docs to " see " everything " in person " when it comes to this surgery

and not just work with a scope.)

Again, I just had my Panni, and my pain with that was very LOW. My pain

with

my OPEN Proximal RNY was VERY HIGH.

So, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/8/2003 4:35:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, ng5y@...

writes:

> I wonder how you would rate the pain and the overall experiance thus far

of

> the WLS versus the plactic work...

Hi - always a personal experience. I have a fairly high pain

threshhold, and thought that my hernia repair repair and abdominoplasty was

much more difficult to recover from than my original lap bypass surgery.

The

first 24 hours after surgery, the actual pain was worse with the bypass (I

refused to take pain meds after by bypass, but that's another story), and it

was very very bad. But with the reconstructive surgery, the overall pain

went on for much longer, and I ended up using pain meds for the first time

in

my life for a week!

I think most of my pain stemmed from the repair work done to my upper

abdominal muscles to pull them back into the right place, and most people

don't have that done.

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[Guest guest]

Well, I've had both lap & open. My original RNY was open, I had no

pain whatsoever, just discomfort. My transection was lap, and I had

a little pain. But, my TT was very painful, but percoset saved the

day. I also have a high pain threshold and tend not to take pain

pills, but when I realized after the TT that taking the percoset as

prescribed would keep the pain at bay, no problem.

in NJ

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> Kate, & All --

>

> You know, I've monitored this WLS vs. PS (panni/abdominoplasty)

pain issue for sometime. Here are my thoughts.

>

> Those that had a " closed " or LAP RNY gastric bypass surgery, always

rate the plastic/reconstructive surgery (panni/abdom.) as a

significantly MORE painful surgery (because Lap is significantly less

invasive).

>

> Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS

OUT TO CHECK THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND

REPAIR THE CUT MUSCLE WALLS that got them in there), always rate the

plastic/reconstructive surgery panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.

[Guest guest]

Well, I've had both lap & open. My original RNY was open, I had no

pain whatsoever, just discomfort. My transection was lap, and I had

a little pain. But, my TT was very painful, but percoset saved the

day. I also have a high pain threshold and tend not to take pain

pills, but when I realized after the TT that taking the percoset as

prescribed would keep the pain at bay, no problem.

in NJ

**************************

> Kate, & All --

>

> You know, I've monitored this WLS vs. PS (panni/abdominoplasty)

pain issue for sometime. Here are my thoughts.

>

> Those that had a " closed " or LAP RNY gastric bypass surgery, always

rate the plastic/reconstructive surgery (panni/abdom.) as a

significantly MORE painful surgery (because Lap is significantly less

invasive).

>

> Those of us that had the OPEN RNY (where they take ALL YOUR GUTS

OUT TO CHECK THEM OUT, CUT THEM UP, REARRANGE THEM AND THEN CUT AND

REPAIR THE CUT MUSCLE WALLS that got them in there), always rate the

plastic/reconstructive surgery panni/abdom.) as LESS painful.