Re: To whoever else had surgery Tues (Oct 5th)

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to hear that you're doing just fine.

I slept through the night last night, but of course, I don't feel

well-rested. I'm still congested beyond belief, and my nose really

hurts from all the rubbing and squeezing I had to do coming right out

of surgery. I have a humidifier in my room, and I think that helped

me to get some yuck out of my nose before I got out of bed, but still

no luck breathing.

The roof of my mouth, my bottom lip, and some areas around my chin are

extremely numb, and my doctor said to expect that in the coming weeks.

Today is the last day that I'll have to wear ice packs, so I'm happy

about that.

I've been eating variou things through the sip and squeeze. I'm kind

of hungry, but it's really hard to eat since I cannot breathe through

my nose, and I am still so numb.

It sounds as though you're dong great. I've heard that the third day

after surgery is the worst for many reasons, so once I get today beind

me, I know that I'll really start to feel some improvement.

Keep me posted on your progress!

Best of luck to you,

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to hear that you're doing just fine.

I slept through the night last night, but of course, I don't feel

well-rested. I'm still congested beyond belief, and my nose really

hurts from all the rubbing and squeezing I had to do coming right out

of surgery. I have a humidifier in my room, and I think that helped

me to get some yuck out of my nose before I got out of bed, but still

no luck breathing.

The roof of my mouth, my bottom lip, and some areas around my chin are

extremely numb, and my doctor said to expect that in the coming weeks.

Today is the last day that I'll have to wear ice packs, so I'm happy

about that.

I've been eating variou things through the sip and squeeze. I'm kind

of hungry, but it's really hard to eat since I cannot breathe through

my nose, and I am still so numb.

It sounds as though you're dong great. I've heard that the third day

after surgery is the worst for many reasons, so once I get today beind

me, I know that I'll really start to feel some improvement.

Keep me posted on your progress!

Best of luck to you,

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

It is normal to be completely numbe, I was numbe from just below my

eyes to my chin. It will go away little by little. Are you using the

Zip n Squeeze bags? I'm surprised you have only been able to do apple

juice. If you have the bags try the heavier one, if you can put the

straw far enough into you mouth and squeeze it make it easier to eat,

I would actually laen back it the recliner and put the straw in and

squeeze gently and let gravity help to get the food to the back of my

mouth to swallow. Try some beans blended with chicken broth to thin

them out, or oatmeal thinned with milk. both of these options will

give you some energy and fill you up. I bought baby cereal and used

that the first week. It was a life saver.

Marsha

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying

to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

It is normal to be completely numbe, I was numbe from just below my

eyes to my chin. It will go away little by little. Are you using the

Zip n Squeeze bags? I'm surprised you have only been able to do apple

juice. If you have the bags try the heavier one, if you can put the

straw far enough into you mouth and squeeze it make it easier to eat,

I would actually laen back it the recliner and put the straw in and

squeeze gently and let gravity help to get the food to the back of my

mouth to swallow. Try some beans blended with chicken broth to thin

them out, or oatmeal thinned with milk. both of these options will

give you some energy and fill you up. I bought baby cereal and used

that the first week. It was a life saver.

Marsha

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying

to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm)

it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying

to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down.

I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink

anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

My boyfriend had his BSSO surgery on Tuesday as well. As far as

eating, beyond water and snapple, he tried some watered down yogurt

with honey in it yesterday and that went really well. As far as

brushing, I dont think he has attempted that yet. Swelling has gone

down progressively since day one, I was really suprised at that! The

numbness he says is from midcheek down but is starting to regain

some sensations this morning. I know he has been pretty miserable,

and really having trouble with nasal congestion. This is quite an

experience, hang in there!

Beth

[Guest guest]

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm)

it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying

to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down.

I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink

anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

My boyfriend had his BSSO surgery on Tuesday as well. As far as

eating, beyond water and snapple, he tried some watered down yogurt

with honey in it yesterday and that went really well. As far as

brushing, I dont think he has attempted that yet. Swelling has gone

down progressively since day one, I was really suprised at that! The

numbness he says is from midcheek down but is starting to regain

some sensations this morning. I know he has been pretty miserable,

and really having trouble with nasal congestion. This is quite an

experience, hang in there!

Beth

[Guest guest]

You should definitely be taking in nutrition now, and yesterday! You

need to give your body some calories to nourish the healing. How

about broth? Maybe warm, or congealed, if that's easier for you. (I

can't remember whether you're wired shut -- sorry.)

It is good that you're keeping up with the liquids; that's important,

too.

Try a baby toothbrush, and while you're investing, get one or two of

those little rubber-coated baby spoons, too. That will help. Ask your

doc when it will be safe for you to use a Waterpik, too.

Yes, numbness is more usual than not, alas.

Best,

Cammie

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying

to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

You should definitely be taking in nutrition now, and yesterday! You

need to give your body some calories to nourish the healing. How

about broth? Maybe warm, or congealed, if that's easier for you. (I

can't remember whether you're wired shut -- sorry.)

It is good that you're keeping up with the liquids; that's important,

too.

Try a baby toothbrush, and while you're investing, get one or two of

those little rubber-coated baby spoons, too. That will help. Ask your

doc when it will be safe for you to use a Waterpik, too.

Yes, numbness is more usual than not, alas.

Best,

Cammie

>

> How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

> swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

> easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

> don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

> swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

> went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

> didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

> more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

> daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying

to

> eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

> ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

> don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

> more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

> he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

> open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

> say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

> miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

> cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

--

This is the link where you can find that list. There are some other helpful

lists there as well. If you have trouble finding it, feel free to e-mail me.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Orthognathic_surgery/files

--

Ploss wrote:

Dear ,

How do I find the list you mentioned in your second paragraph?

Re: To whoever else had surgery

Tues (Oct 5th)

Don't worry, I am also numb from my cheeks to my chin...including my lips,

which is the most annoying part! It is so much trouble trying to

drink...I'm not quite ready for a straw but when I drink out of a cup, half

of it gets spilled! I was planning on going back to work on Tuesday (one

week from surgery), but now think that goal may be too soon.

As for brushing, I use a child size toothbrush. That was on a list of

things to buy before the surgery that is on this site..I found that list to

be very helpful! The only thing I'm worried about is the fact because the

swelling is so bad, it is hard to get the toothbrush inside my mouth. I

have been concentrating on my top front teeth and whatever I can get on the

inside. I'm afraid of catching the stitches. I have clear braces on top and

now they look dirty!!

To the others who had surgery on October 5, are you wired shut?

I hope you guys had a good Day 3 and even better Day 4!! Hopefully we will

start to see some real progress here on out!

--

cosmid92671 wrote:

How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying to

eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

--

This is the link where you can find that list. There are some other helpful

lists there as well. If you have trouble finding it, feel free to e-mail me.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Orthognathic_surgery/files

--

Ploss wrote:

Dear ,

How do I find the list you mentioned in your second paragraph?

Re: To whoever else had surgery

Tues (Oct 5th)

Don't worry, I am also numb from my cheeks to my chin...including my lips,

which is the most annoying part! It is so much trouble trying to

drink...I'm not quite ready for a straw but when I drink out of a cup, half

of it gets spilled! I was planning on going back to work on Tuesday (one

week from surgery), but now think that goal may be too soon.

As for brushing, I use a child size toothbrush. That was on a list of

things to buy before the surgery that is on this site..I found that list to

be very helpful! The only thing I'm worried about is the fact because the

swelling is so bad, it is hard to get the toothbrush inside my mouth. I

have been concentrating on my top front teeth and whatever I can get on the

inside. I'm afraid of catching the stitches. I have clear braces on top and

now they look dirty!!

To the others who had surgery on October 5, are you wired shut?

I hope you guys had a good Day 3 and even better Day 4!! Hopefully we will

start to see some real progress here on out!

--

cosmid92671 wrote:

How are you feeling today? Since it's Friday, this is the peak

swelling day (T+3). From what I read it just gets easier and

easier. I can't wait for that to happen. As far as I can tell, I

don't see any less swelling, but my mom said she can see less

swelling. My OS said that I have really dense bone, and when he

went to make his cut for the BSSO (my lower midline was off 6mm) it

didn't break correctly -- so he had to do extra work on it, hence

more there's more swelling on that side. I'm taking arnica 3x

daily, and hydocodone every 4 hours. When should we start trying to

eat? I have to drink water, or apple juice with 1/2 water in it,

ortherwise is bubbles in my throat, and I can't swallow it down. I

don't know how I'm going to ever be able to actually drink anything

more solid. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday -- I don't know what

he's going to do then. How does anyone brush by the way? I can't

open my teeth wide enough to get my toothbrush in there, but they

say you should brush! Anyway, I just wanted to check in -- still

miserable. Oh, and as far as numbness goes -- I can't feel my

cheeks, or chin. Is that normal?

[Guest guest]

Hey,

I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing my

ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through the

gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

pretty well.

The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still pretty

fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

other side seems fine.

One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't know

why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects from

the narcotics?

Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how the

rest of you are doing =)

BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them as

well?

[Guest guest]

Hey,

I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing my

ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through the

gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

pretty well.

The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still pretty

fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

other side seems fine.

One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't know

why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects from

the narcotics?

Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how the

rest of you are doing =)

BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them as

well?

[Guest guest]

you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would have

had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to burden

them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as hydrocodone

will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be true so

far. eric

>

> Hey,

>

> I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

> was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

> youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing

my

> ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through

the

> gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

> pretty well.

>

> The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still pretty

> fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

> other side seems fine.

>

> One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't know

> why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

> and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

> the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects from

> the narcotics?

>

> Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how

the

> rest of you are doing =)

>

> BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

> in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them

as

> well?

>

>

[Guest guest]

you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would have

had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to burden

them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as hydrocodone

will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be true so

far. eric

>

> Hey,

>

> I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

> was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

> youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing

my

> ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through

the

> gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

> pretty well.

>

> The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still pretty

> fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

> other side seems fine.

>

> One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't know

> why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

> and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

> the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects from

> the narcotics?

>

> Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how

the

> rest of you are doing =)

>

> BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

> in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them

as

> well?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ohh right, it was cpapsuks1 who mentioned Riley & before, not

ceast36532 (heh, can't keep track of those c-names). How did you know

of them? Everybody tells me they're super good, but I haven't found

anything online saying so, except for the fact that they've written

tons of research papers.

Anyway, I don't think it was that expensive compared to everyone else-

-for me, it was $10,750 per jaw, and insurance (United Healthcare

PPO) covers $6,450 each, making it $8,600 for both jaws after

insurance. Genioplasty was an extra $1500 out of pocket, which they

normally charge $3500. This is for doctors fees alone, not counting

the separate hospital fees, anesthesiologist, etc., which increase

the cost dramatically.

>

> you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would

have

> had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

burden

> them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

> about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

hydrocodone

> will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

> surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be true

so

> far. eric

[Guest guest]

Ohh right, it was cpapsuks1 who mentioned Riley & before, not

ceast36532 (heh, can't keep track of those c-names). How did you know

of them? Everybody tells me they're super good, but I haven't found

anything online saying so, except for the fact that they've written

tons of research papers.

Anyway, I don't think it was that expensive compared to everyone else-

-for me, it was $10,750 per jaw, and insurance (United Healthcare

PPO) covers $6,450 each, making it $8,600 for both jaws after

insurance. Genioplasty was an extra $1500 out of pocket, which they

normally charge $3500. This is for doctors fees alone, not counting

the separate hospital fees, anesthesiologist, etc., which increase

the cost dramatically.

>

> you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would

have

> had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

burden

> them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

> about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

hydrocodone

> will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

> surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be true

so

> far. eric

[Guest guest]

jason, powell and riley are renowned for their pioneering work in the

study of sleep disorders. they train some of the best in bimax

advancement and do thousands a year. I've spoke with several people on

other forums who've also been fortunate to have the very best and all

were very satisfied with their outcomes and treatments. their prices

sound very reasonable for their level of care and blue cross would

have paid 100% for me. really starting to regret not going. hope your

recovery goes well. eric

> >

> > you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would

> have

> > had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

> burden

> > them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> > expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

> > about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

> hydrocodone

> > will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

> > surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be

true

> so

> > far. eric

[Guest guest]

jason, powell and riley are renowned for their pioneering work in the

study of sleep disorders. they train some of the best in bimax

advancement and do thousands a year. I've spoke with several people on

other forums who've also been fortunate to have the very best and all

were very satisfied with their outcomes and treatments. their prices

sound very reasonable for their level of care and blue cross would

have paid 100% for me. really starting to regret not going. hope your

recovery goes well. eric

> >

> > you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would

> have

> > had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

> burden

> > them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> > expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

> > about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

> hydrocodone

> > will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

> > surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be

true

> so

> > far. eric

[Guest guest]

,

In what city do , and Riley practice? Boston?

Re: To whoever else had surgery

Tues (Oct 5th)

jason, powell and riley are renowned for their pioneering work in the

study of sleep disorders. they train some of the best in bimax

advancement and do thousands a year. I've spoke with several people on

other forums who've also been fortunate to have the very best and all

were very satisfied with their outcomes and treatments. their prices

sound very reasonable for their level of care and blue cross would

have paid 100% for me. really starting to regret not going. hope your

recovery goes well. eric

> >

> > you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would

> have

> > had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

> burden

> > them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> > expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

> > about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

> hydrocodone

> > will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

> > surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be

true

> so

> > far. eric

[Guest guest]

,

In what city do , and Riley practice? Boston?

Re: To whoever else had surgery

Tues (Oct 5th)

jason, powell and riley are renowned for their pioneering work in the

study of sleep disorders. they train some of the best in bimax

advancement and do thousands a year. I've spoke with several people on

other forums who've also been fortunate to have the very best and all

were very satisfied with their outcomes and treatments. their prices

sound very reasonable for their level of care and blue cross would

have paid 100% for me. really starting to regret not going. hope your

recovery goes well. eric

> >

> > you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but would

> have

> > had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

> burden

> > them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> > expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my doc

> > about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

> hydrocodone

> > will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after two

> > surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be

true

> so

> > far. eric

[Guest guest]

would be me =)

As for, Riley & , they are at Stanford/Palo Alto.

, thanks for the info. It's reassuring to know that I have great

doctors. Sorry that you were not able to be treated by them :-/

> > >

> > > you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but

would

> > have

> > > had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

> > burden

> > > them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> > > expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my

doc

> > > about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

> > hydrocodone

> > > will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after

two

> > > surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be

> true

> > so

> > > far. eric

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

would be me =)

As for, Riley & , they are at Stanford/Palo Alto.

, thanks for the info. It's reassuring to know that I have great

doctors. Sorry that you were not able to be treated by them :-/

> > >

> > > you lucky dog jason! i wanted to go to powell and riley but

would

> > have

> > > had to stay with friends for a couple weeks and didn't want to

> > burden

> > > them. so i settled for third best and regretting it. are they

> > > expensive? as far as the lightheadedness goes when I asked my

doc

> > > about it he said to make sure i was properly hydrated as

> > hydrocodone

> > > will will do a number on you. I still have half a bottle after

two

> > > surgeries. good luck on the recovery, it sounds too good to be

> true

> > so

> > > far. eric

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I went in today for my 1 week post-op..

When I asked him why my upper midlines were off, he didn't have an

answer for me, but did say that Ortho should be able to fix it. I'm

going to stay tightly banded for another 2 weeks, then the splint

comes off! That works out well, because two days later, I'm going

to be going to Chicago for 5 days -- althought I'm not sure if I'll

be able to actually eat solid food by then or not.

-Blake

>

> Hey,

>

> I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

> was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

> youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing

my

> ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through

the

> gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

> pretty well.

>

> The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still

pretty

> fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

> other side seems fine.

>

> One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't

know

> why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

> and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

> the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects

from

> the narcotics?

>

> Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how

the

> rest of you are doing =)

>

> BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

> in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them

as

> well?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I went in today for my 1 week post-op..

When I asked him why my upper midlines were off, he didn't have an

answer for me, but did say that Ortho should be able to fix it. I'm

going to stay tightly banded for another 2 weeks, then the splint

comes off! That works out well, because two days later, I'm going

to be going to Chicago for 5 days -- althought I'm not sure if I'll

be able to actually eat solid food by then or not.

-Blake

>

> Hey,

>

> I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

> was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

> youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing

my

> ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through

the

> gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

> pretty well.

>

> The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still

pretty

> fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

> other side seems fine.

>

> One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't

know

> why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

> and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

> the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects

from

> the narcotics?

>

> Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how

the

> rest of you are doing =)

>

> BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

> in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them

as

> well?

>

>

[Guest guest]

how did you not get banded or wired or anything?

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: To whoever else had surgery

>Tues (Oct 5th)

>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:42:46 -0000

>

>

>Hey,

>

>I had upper/lower/genio surgery Oct 5th also to fix a crossbite. I

>was not wired, banded, or anything. For brushing, I use a regular

>youth toothbrush for the front, and a Christmas tree looking thing my

>ortho gave me (small wire brush that I can bend, then fit through the

>gap between my teeth) for the back of the teeth. It seems to work

>pretty well.

>

>The swelling has gone down, although my chin/cheeks are still pretty

>fat still. One side of my chin/lower lips are numb, although the

>other side seems fine.

>

>One thing though is that I feel really light-headed and I don't know

>why. I haven't lost any weight since surgery, and I've been eating

>and drinking regularly. Maybe it's because I'm starting to lay off

>the hydrocodone pain medication and getting widthdrawal effects from

>the narcotics?

>

>Anyway, I have an appt with the surgeon tomorrow. Let me know how the

>rest of you are doing =)

>

>BTW ceast36532, I think I remember you mentioned Dr. Riley & Dr.

> in previous posts. They were my surgeons--did you have them as

>well?

>

>

>

>

>

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