Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Well, I seriously hope that they do NOT do this, or that there is some sort of over-ride. My ex-husband has tried every anti-depressant known to man and this is the only one that really works for him. If they take him off his serzone, I predict that they will kill him within five years through his suicide. Ziobro Open RNY 09/17/01 310/126 SERZONE - Warning !!! Just in case my e-mail did not come thru......... Go to; drudgereport.com - it has news reports etc. Scoll down past them, and on the left side, click on AP National. Scroll down until you see 'Health News " , and quite a ways down is an article on Serzone. It has been taken off te market in Europe, and the FDA is considering doing the same here - due to liver problems and deaths.......just want you to informed. I used to take this, until I was switched over to Effexor a few years ago. Inquiring minds want to know !!! Joannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Well, I seriously hope that they do NOT do this, or that there is some sort of over-ride. My ex-husband has tried every anti-depressant known to man and this is the only one that really works for him. If they take him off his serzone, I predict that they will kill him within five years through his suicide. Ziobro Open RNY 09/17/01 310/126 SERZONE - Warning !!! Just in case my e-mail did not come thru......... Go to; drudgereport.com - it has news reports etc. Scoll down past them, and on the left side, click on AP National. Scroll down until you see 'Health News " , and quite a ways down is an article on Serzone. It has been taken off te market in Europe, and the FDA is considering doing the same here - due to liver problems and deaths.......just want you to informed. I used to take this, until I was switched over to Effexor a few years ago. Inquiring minds want to know !!! Joannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 : one thing about serious depression, any side effect from a drug that works, is worth it. Unless you have been in that dark pit of despair, one can't imagine why you would risk anything to be out. Fay Bayuk '300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 : one thing about serious depression, any side effect from a drug that works, is worth it. Unless you have been in that dark pit of despair, one can't imagine why you would risk anything to be out. Fay Bayuk '300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 I " think " that is what was saying......that IF they take her husband off of Serzone.........suicide would be the result. I know how and what she means......the only anti-depressant that worked for me was Nortryptoline.....doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. Re: SERZONE - Warning !!! > : one thing about serious depression, any side effect from a drug that > works, is worth it. Unless you have been in that dark pit of despair, one > can't imagine why you would risk anything to be out. > > > > Fay Bayuk > '300/173 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 I " think " that is what was saying......that IF they take her husband off of Serzone.........suicide would be the result. I know how and what she means......the only anti-depressant that worked for me was Nortryptoline.....doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. Re: SERZONE - Warning !!! > : one thing about serious depression, any side effect from a drug that > works, is worth it. Unless you have been in that dark pit of despair, one > can't imagine why you would risk anything to be out. > > > > Fay Bayuk > '300/173 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 In a message dated 3/11/2003 8:20:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, nanpug@... writes: > doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just > sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. > ----- Original Message ----- > is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. Fay Bayuk '300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 In a message dated 3/11/2003 8:20:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, nanpug@... writes: > doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just > sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. > ----- Original Message ----- > is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. Fay Bayuk '300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't gone back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour session to my weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I left my shrink 12 years ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to be on meds for life.........I really will call tomorrow if this is the case.........never occurred to me any would do this.......... P. Re: SERZONE - Warning !!! In a message dated 3/11/2003 8:20:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, nanpug@... writes: doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. ----- Original Message ----- Fay Bayuk '300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't gone back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour session to my weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I left my shrink 12 years ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to be on meds for life.........I really will call tomorrow if this is the case.........never occurred to me any would do this.......... P. Re: SERZONE - Warning !!! In a message dated 3/11/2003 8:20:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, nanpug@... writes: doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. ----- Original Message ----- Fay Bayuk '300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 In a message dated 3/11/2003 9:36:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, nanpug@... writes: > ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? > Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't gone > back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour session to my > weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I left my shrink 12 years > ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to be on meds for life.........I > really will call tomorrow if this is the case.........never occurred to me > any would do this.......... P. > One of the *advantages* of managed care is that I can call my doctor and pretty much leave a voicemail telling her what I want in the way of meds, and they'll phone in a prescription. When I decided to go on wellbutrin, I just called my PCP and left the message. I'd like to think that they'd want to see me if they thought there was a problem, but.... Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 In a message dated 3/11/2003 9:36:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, nanpug@... writes: > ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? > Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't gone > back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour session to my > weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I left my shrink 12 years > ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to be on meds for life.........I > really will call tomorrow if this is the case.........never occurred to me > any would do this.......... P. > One of the *advantages* of managed care is that I can call my doctor and pretty much leave a voicemail telling her what I want in the way of meds, and they'll phone in a prescription. When I decided to go on wellbutrin, I just called my PCP and left the message. I'd like to think that they'd want to see me if they thought there was a problem, but.... Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Oh, dear , most of mine have been willing to do med checks. It literally is about a 15 minutes every couple of months. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:49:41 -0500 " nancy pugliese " writes: > is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see > you just for meds. > > ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? > Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't > gone back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour > session to my weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I > left my shrink 12 years ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to > be on meds for life.........I really will call tomorrow if this is > the case.........never occurred to me any would do > this.......... P. > Re: SERZONE - Warning !!! > > > In a message dated 3/11/2003 8:20:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, > nanpug@... writes: > > > doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just > sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > Fay Bayuk > '300/173 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Oh, dear , most of mine have been willing to do med checks. It literally is about a 15 minutes every couple of months. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:49:41 -0500 " nancy pugliese " writes: > is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see > you just for meds. > > ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? > Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't > gone back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour > session to my weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I > left my shrink 12 years ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to > be on meds for life.........I really will call tomorrow if this is > the case.........never occurred to me any would do > this.......... P. > Re: SERZONE - Warning !!! > > > In a message dated 3/11/2003 8:20:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, > nanpug@... writes: > > > doc won't put me back on due to the liver.......so I just > sit in my own little hell!!!!!!!! P. > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > Fay Bayuk > '300/173 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 I found a Psychiatrist and THAT is all he does. He helps get my MEDS balanced! I am lucky if I see him for 30 min! He WAS and Internal Meds doc and really gets the by-pass issues. I also love his attitude toward an anxiety med that I take that the Navy just has hissy fits over. I take Clonazapam (geez if I could spell I would be dangerous!) at night. Every time I talk to my Navy Docs about this ... They say...AS NEEDED right? You KNOW this is ADDICTIVE!!! I told them YES as NEEDED....every damn NIGHT! So, I told my Psychiatrist about this. And this was what he told me. " A person addicted to this med was someone who had a list of 8 different Doctors, in order to get enough to have it do what they needed it to do. Then the person adds 2 more Doctors, because it isn't enough. A person with high blood pressure is DEPENDENT on his high blood pressure medicine to keep it with in normal ranges. A person with Diabetes is DEPENDENT (his emphasis on the word DEPENDENT)on insulin to keep his diabetes under control. A person with an Anxiety disorder is DEPENDENT on their anti-anxiety meds to keep the illness under control. " THEN he rolled his eyes!!!! I nearly fell OFF the chair I was laughing so hard. I guess it was the roll of the eyes that did it to me. Shoot...I am DEPENDENT on oxygen for living!!! LOL According to the Navy I must be an oxygen ADDICT! -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 I found a Psychiatrist and THAT is all he does. He helps get my MEDS balanced! I am lucky if I see him for 30 min! He WAS and Internal Meds doc and really gets the by-pass issues. I also love his attitude toward an anxiety med that I take that the Navy just has hissy fits over. I take Clonazapam (geez if I could spell I would be dangerous!) at night. Every time I talk to my Navy Docs about this ... They say...AS NEEDED right? You KNOW this is ADDICTIVE!!! I told them YES as NEEDED....every damn NIGHT! So, I told my Psychiatrist about this. And this was what he told me. " A person addicted to this med was someone who had a list of 8 different Doctors, in order to get enough to have it do what they needed it to do. Then the person adds 2 more Doctors, because it isn't enough. A person with high blood pressure is DEPENDENT on his high blood pressure medicine to keep it with in normal ranges. A person with Diabetes is DEPENDENT (his emphasis on the word DEPENDENT)on insulin to keep his diabetes under control. A person with an Anxiety disorder is DEPENDENT on their anti-anxiety meds to keep the illness under control. " THEN he rolled his eyes!!!! I nearly fell OFF the chair I was laughing so hard. I guess it was the roll of the eyes that did it to me. Shoot...I am DEPENDENT on oxygen for living!!! LOL According to the Navy I must be an oxygen ADDICT! -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 In a message dated 3/12/2003 9:54:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, kateseidel writes: > One of the *advantages* of managed care is that I can call my doctor and > pretty much leave a voicemail telling her what I want in the way of meds, and > they'll phone in a prescription. When I decided to go on wellbutrin, I just > called my PCP and left the message. I'd like to think that > they'd want to > see me if they thought there was a problem, but.... > > Kate I am sorry if I am misunderstanding your post. But, if you have a serious depression, you are better off having someone that knows a lot about all drugs available. Cosing to make this decisions yourself alone, can be dangerous. Fay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 In a message dated 3/12/2003 9:54:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, kateseidel writes: > One of the *advantages* of managed care is that I can call my doctor and > pretty much leave a voicemail telling her what I want in the way of meds, and > they'll phone in a prescription. When I decided to go on wellbutrin, I just > called my PCP and left the message. I'd like to think that > they'd want to > see me if they thought there was a problem, but.... > > Kate I am sorry if I am misunderstanding your post. But, if you have a serious depression, you are better off having someone that knows a lot about all drugs available. Cosing to make this decisions yourself alone, can be dangerous. Fay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 I only see my shrink four times a year, or quarterly, the minimum for a meds check in her opinion. I do spend the obligatory hour, but don't see really why that is necessary. She's NOT a therapist, and I've already done my 15 years of therapy... But quarterly, I can handle that. Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~127 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.4 > > ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? > Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't gone > back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour session to my > weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I left my shrink 12 years > ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to be on meds for life.........I > really will call tomorrow if this is the case.........never occurred to me > any would do this.......... P. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 I only see my shrink four times a year, or quarterly, the minimum for a meds check in her opinion. I do spend the obligatory hour, but don't see really why that is necessary. She's NOT a therapist, and I've already done my 15 years of therapy... But quarterly, I can handle that. Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~127 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.4 > > ARE YOU SERIOUS FAY?????? > Honest to God I am sitting here almost in tears...........I haven't gone > back to a shrink because I cannot fathom adding a one hour session to my > weekly schedule.......not right now anyway. When I left my shrink 12 years > ago he said that I would definitely HAVE to be on meds for life.........I > really will call tomorrow if this is the case.........never occurred to me > any would do this.......... P. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I knew the med you were talking about...I can't spell it either. I tried it ONCE.....a friend gave me one during an especially bad panic time. I passed out for about 4 hours......literally couldn't move!! Was on the couch....could hear everything but couldn't respond!! Really weird feeling........which I don't mind........I LOVE altered states!!! I keep thinking back to the time 12 years ago that I first started anti-depressants...I couldn't believe that people actually walked around daily feeling like that.......I know it is time to get back on them, now to just make that phone call!! THANKS......... P.. RE: SERZONE - Warning !!! I found a Psychiatrist and THAT is all he does. He helps get my MEDS balanced! I am lucky if I see him for 30 min! He WAS and Internal Meds doc and really gets the by-pass issues. I also love his attitude toward an anxiety med that I take that the Navy just has hissy fits over. I take Clonazapam (geez if I could spell I would be dangerous!) at night. Every time I talk to my Navy Docs about this ... They say...AS NEEDED right? You KNOW this is ADDICTIVE!!! I told them YES as NEEDED....every damn NIGHT! So, I told my Psychiatrist about this. And this was what he told me. " A person addicted to this med was someone who had a list of 8 different Doctors, in order to get enough to have it do what they needed it to do. Then the person adds 2 more Doctors, because it isn't enough. A person with high blood pressure is DEPENDENT on his high blood pressure medicine to keep it with in normal ranges. A person with Diabetes is DEPENDENT (his emphasis on the word DEPENDENT)on insulin to keep his diabetes under control. A person with an Anxiety disorder is DEPENDENT on their anti-anxiety meds to keep the illness under control. " THEN he rolled his eyes!!!! I nearly fell OFF the chair I was laughing so hard. I guess it was the roll of the eyes that did it to me. Shoot...I am DEPENDENT on oxygen for living!!! LOL According to the Navy I must be an oxygen ADDICT! -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I knew the med you were talking about...I can't spell it either. I tried it ONCE.....a friend gave me one during an especially bad panic time. I passed out for about 4 hours......literally couldn't move!! Was on the couch....could hear everything but couldn't respond!! Really weird feeling........which I don't mind........I LOVE altered states!!! I keep thinking back to the time 12 years ago that I first started anti-depressants...I couldn't believe that people actually walked around daily feeling like that.......I know it is time to get back on them, now to just make that phone call!! THANKS......... P.. RE: SERZONE - Warning !!! I found a Psychiatrist and THAT is all he does. He helps get my MEDS balanced! I am lucky if I see him for 30 min! He WAS and Internal Meds doc and really gets the by-pass issues. I also love his attitude toward an anxiety med that I take that the Navy just has hissy fits over. I take Clonazapam (geez if I could spell I would be dangerous!) at night. Every time I talk to my Navy Docs about this ... They say...AS NEEDED right? You KNOW this is ADDICTIVE!!! I told them YES as NEEDED....every damn NIGHT! So, I told my Psychiatrist about this. And this was what he told me. " A person addicted to this med was someone who had a list of 8 different Doctors, in order to get enough to have it do what they needed it to do. Then the person adds 2 more Doctors, because it isn't enough. A person with high blood pressure is DEPENDENT on his high blood pressure medicine to keep it with in normal ranges. A person with Diabetes is DEPENDENT (his emphasis on the word DEPENDENT)on insulin to keep his diabetes under control. A person with an Anxiety disorder is DEPENDENT on their anti-anxiety meds to keep the illness under control. " THEN he rolled his eyes!!!! I nearly fell OFF the chair I was laughing so hard. I guess it was the roll of the eyes that did it to me. Shoot...I am DEPENDENT on oxygen for living!!! LOL According to the Navy I must be an oxygen ADDICT! -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese is your doc a psychiatrist. If not try to find one. The will see you just for meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 , Which is exactly why I take it at night! LOL Within a half an hour I am in lala land...no waking up in the middle of the night in a panic....not being able to shut the brain off...no going off on tangents that are totally useless or worrying about things that I shouldn't BE worrying about. During the day, it seems to keep the brain from going into over load...especially when I am under stress. It is NOT pleasant when this happens because then I totally stop functioning. All I can do is panic. Thank goodness for something that works for me!!!! Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese I knew the med you were talking about...I can't spell it either. I tried it ONCE.....a friend gave me one during an especially bad panic time. I passed out for about 4 hours......literally couldn't move!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 , Which is exactly why I take it at night! LOL Within a half an hour I am in lala land...no waking up in the middle of the night in a panic....not being able to shut the brain off...no going off on tangents that are totally useless or worrying about things that I shouldn't BE worrying about. During the day, it seems to keep the brain from going into over load...especially when I am under stress. It is NOT pleasant when this happens because then I totally stop functioning. All I can do is panic. Thank goodness for something that works for me!!!! Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese I knew the med you were talking about...I can't spell it either. I tried it ONCE.....a friend gave me one during an especially bad panic time. I passed out for about 4 hours......literally couldn't move!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Boy Debbie..........you sound just like me. I have something I take at night too.....Sinequan!! I started taking it to avoid morning headaches.....but noticed that I don't do all the night time insanity thinking that I am soooo prone to. It also takes care of the insomnia!!!!! P. RE: SERZONE - Warning !!! , Which is exactly why I take it at night! LOL Within a half an hour I am in lala land...no waking up in the middle of the night in a panic....not being able to shut the brain off...no going off on tangents that are totally useless or worrying about things that I shouldn't BE worrying about. During the day, it seems to keep the brain from going into over load...especially when I am under stress. It is NOT pleasant when this happens because then I totally stop functioning. All I can do is panic. Thank goodness for something that works for me!!!! Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore -----Original Message----- From: nancy pugliese I knew the med you were talking about...I can't spell it either. I tried it ONCE.....a friend gave me one during an especially bad panic time. I passed out for about 4 hours......literally couldn't move!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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