Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I would guess that your TMJ started giving you grief because your bite and/or the pressures on the joints are out of kilter, and that your bite is off. But I'm just a lay person. Fair warning: The surgery helps with TMJ troubles for many people, but for some, the TMJ trouble gets worse. Be sure to discuss this with any putative surgeon, and ask your dentist/ortho/whoever whether there are TMJ specialists in your area. Sometimes folks need other things in addition to the orthognathic surgery. I would guess that yes, you will need braces both before and after. But I haven't even seen your mouth, and if I had, I probably wouldn't know any more. Usually the ortho has to put the teeth in a particular relationship so that the surgeon can do his work. Often there is some overcorrection -- and often bad bites get worse during the preparation for surgery. A few people have had only arch bars, but they are few and far between, and to be honest, what they have said about the arch bars made me downright grateful for the plain old braces. You will need something, I would wager, to keep those teeth stable after the surgery, for your surgeon to put either wires or bands or a splint, or all three, in your mouth. Here again, though, you need to talk with your surgeon. Look at Fiddlesticks' geocities site (it's listed in the links on site 2, and probably here, as well) for a list of FAQs for surgeons. Best, Cammie > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I was > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the left. > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my face. > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have horrible > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the left > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. So > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous but > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew on > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before surgery > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and after > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I see > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > Thanks in advance > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I would guess that your TMJ started giving you grief because your bite and/or the pressures on the joints are out of kilter, and that your bite is off. But I'm just a lay person. Fair warning: The surgery helps with TMJ troubles for many people, but for some, the TMJ trouble gets worse. Be sure to discuss this with any putative surgeon, and ask your dentist/ortho/whoever whether there are TMJ specialists in your area. Sometimes folks need other things in addition to the orthognathic surgery. I would guess that yes, you will need braces both before and after. But I haven't even seen your mouth, and if I had, I probably wouldn't know any more. Usually the ortho has to put the teeth in a particular relationship so that the surgeon can do his work. Often there is some overcorrection -- and often bad bites get worse during the preparation for surgery. A few people have had only arch bars, but they are few and far between, and to be honest, what they have said about the arch bars made me downright grateful for the plain old braces. You will need something, I would wager, to keep those teeth stable after the surgery, for your surgeon to put either wires or bands or a splint, or all three, in your mouth. Here again, though, you need to talk with your surgeon. Look at Fiddlesticks' geocities site (it's listed in the links on site 2, and probably here, as well) for a list of FAQs for surgeons. Best, Cammie > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I was > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the left. > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my face. > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have horrible > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the left > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. So > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous but > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew on > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before surgery > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and after > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I see > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > Thanks in advance > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I had originally gone to see the ortho because I was not happy with my smile and hated my teeth. When he seen me, he told me I had disintegrating joints in my jaw along with TMJ and my lower jaw was shifted. I thought WOW! He told me he could just give me braces to partially correct my smile but said the surgery would make 100% difference. So, I opted for surgery as well. Ortho put braces on to coincide with diagnosis from orthognathic surgeon and based my entire treatment on that. I have had my braces on now for about 1.5yrs, going for surgery on October 28 (upper/lower/genio/palate) and was informed I would be in braces probably 6 to 8 months after surgery. Hope some of this answered your question. Good Luck With All! Mel > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I was > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the left. > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my face. > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > horrible > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the left > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. So > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous but > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew on > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before surgery > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and after > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I see > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I had originally gone to see the ortho because I was not happy with my smile and hated my teeth. When he seen me, he told me I had disintegrating joints in my jaw along with TMJ and my lower jaw was shifted. I thought WOW! He told me he could just give me braces to partially correct my smile but said the surgery would make 100% difference. So, I opted for surgery as well. Ortho put braces on to coincide with diagnosis from orthognathic surgeon and based my entire treatment on that. I have had my braces on now for about 1.5yrs, going for surgery on October 28 (upper/lower/genio/palate) and was informed I would be in braces probably 6 to 8 months after surgery. Hope some of this answered your question. Good Luck With All! Mel > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I was > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the left. > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my face. > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > horrible > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the left > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. So > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous but > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew on > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before surgery > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and after > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I see > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Thanks Cammie for the information. I figure I will have something to thought I was hoping I would not LOL LOL. I see the specialist on Wed so I will keep you posted. -- - In orthognathicsurgerysupport , ceast36532 <no_reply@y...> wrote: > > I would guess that your TMJ started giving you grief because your > bite and/or the pressures on the joints are out of kilter, and that > your bite is off. But I'm just a lay person. > > Fair warning: The surgery helps with TMJ troubles for many people, > but for some, the TMJ trouble gets worse. Be sure to discuss this > with any putative surgeon, and ask your dentist/ortho/whoever whether > there are TMJ specialists in your area. Sometimes folks need other > things in addition to the orthognathic surgery. > > I would guess that yes, you will need braces both before and after. > But I haven't even seen your mouth, and if I had, I probably wouldn't > know any more. Usually the ortho has to put the teeth in a particular > relationship so that the surgeon can do his work. Often there is some > overcorrection -- and often bad bites get worse during the > preparation for surgery. > > A few people have had only arch bars, but they are few and far > between, and to be honest, what they have said about the arch bars > made me downright grateful for the plain old braces. > > You will need something, I would wager, to keep those teeth stable > after the surgery, for your surgeon to put either wires or bands or a > splint, or all three, in your mouth. > > Here again, though, you need to talk with your surgeon. Look at > Fiddlesticks' geocities site (it's listed in the links on site 2, and > probably here, as well) for a list of FAQs for surgeons. > > Best, > > Cammie > > > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I was > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the left. > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my face. > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > horrible > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the left > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. So > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous but > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew on > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before surgery > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and after > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I see > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Thanks Cammie for the information. I figure I will have something to thought I was hoping I would not LOL LOL. I see the specialist on Wed so I will keep you posted. -- - In orthognathicsurgerysupport , ceast36532 <no_reply@y...> wrote: > > I would guess that your TMJ started giving you grief because your > bite and/or the pressures on the joints are out of kilter, and that > your bite is off. But I'm just a lay person. > > Fair warning: The surgery helps with TMJ troubles for many people, > but for some, the TMJ trouble gets worse. Be sure to discuss this > with any putative surgeon, and ask your dentist/ortho/whoever whether > there are TMJ specialists in your area. Sometimes folks need other > things in addition to the orthognathic surgery. > > I would guess that yes, you will need braces both before and after. > But I haven't even seen your mouth, and if I had, I probably wouldn't > know any more. Usually the ortho has to put the teeth in a particular > relationship so that the surgeon can do his work. Often there is some > overcorrection -- and often bad bites get worse during the > preparation for surgery. > > A few people have had only arch bars, but they are few and far > between, and to be honest, what they have said about the arch bars > made me downright grateful for the plain old braces. > > You will need something, I would wager, to keep those teeth stable > after the surgery, for your surgeon to put either wires or bands or a > splint, or all three, in your mouth. > > Here again, though, you need to talk with your surgeon. Look at > Fiddlesticks' geocities site (it's listed in the links on site 2, and > probably here, as well) for a list of FAQs for surgeons. > > Best, > > Cammie > > > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I was > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the left. > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my face. > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > horrible > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the left > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. So > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous but > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew on > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before surgery > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and after > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I see > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Thanks Mel. Good luck with your surgery. My face is off but I have lived with it like that for a long time. Though I must admit it bothers me. I cant think what I will look like with a symetrical face. Keep us posted on how your surgery goes - -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " Mel " <gettinintrouble2003@y...> wrote: > > I had originally gone to see the ortho because I was not happy with > my smile and hated my teeth. When he seen me, he told me I had > disintegrating joints in my jaw along with TMJ and my lower jaw was > shifted. I thought WOW! He told me he could just give me braces to > partially correct my smile but said the surgery would make 100% > difference. So, I opted for surgery as well. > > Ortho put braces on to coincide with diagnosis from orthognathic > surgeon and based my entire treatment on that. I have had my braces > on now for about 1.5yrs, going for surgery on October 28 > (upper/lower/genio/palate) and was informed I would be in braces > probably 6 to 8 months after surgery. > > Hope some of this answered your question. > Good Luck With All! > Mel > > > > > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I > was > > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the > left. > > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my > face. > > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > > horrible > > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the > left > > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. > So > > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous > but > > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew > on > > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before > surgery > > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and > after > > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I > see > > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Thanks Mel. Good luck with your surgery. My face is off but I have lived with it like that for a long time. Though I must admit it bothers me. I cant think what I will look like with a symetrical face. Keep us posted on how your surgery goes - -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " Mel " <gettinintrouble2003@y...> wrote: > > I had originally gone to see the ortho because I was not happy with > my smile and hated my teeth. When he seen me, he told me I had > disintegrating joints in my jaw along with TMJ and my lower jaw was > shifted. I thought WOW! He told me he could just give me braces to > partially correct my smile but said the surgery would make 100% > difference. So, I opted for surgery as well. > > Ortho put braces on to coincide with diagnosis from orthognathic > surgeon and based my entire treatment on that. I have had my braces > on now for about 1.5yrs, going for surgery on October 28 > (upper/lower/genio/palate) and was informed I would be in braces > probably 6 to 8 months after surgery. > > Hope some of this answered your question. > Good Luck With All! > Mel > > > > > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I > was > > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the > left. > > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my > face. > > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > > horrible > > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the > left > > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. > So > > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous > but > > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew > on > > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before > surgery > > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and > after > > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I > see > > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 YEs, braces are ALWAYS needed to finalize and stablize the bite. For most people its less then a year but it can be longer or shorter just depends on how " normal " your teeth are. > > > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I > was > > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the > left. > > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my > face. > > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > > horrible > > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the > left > > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. > So > > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous > but > > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew > on > > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before > surgery > > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and > after > > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I > see > > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 YEs, braces are ALWAYS needed to finalize and stablize the bite. For most people its less then a year but it can be longer or shorter just depends on how " normal " your teeth are. > > > > > > Well I have had jaw problems for years. I first saw a Dr when I > was > > > 18 I am now 38. The right side of my face is longer than the > left. > > > You can really tell if you take a full frontal picture of my > face. > > > Other than that no problems. So for that reason I said no to the > > > surgery.( I wore braces as a teenager) HOWEVER, now I have > > horrible > > > TMJ and my face looks worse than ever and I am in pain on the > left > > > shorter side. I have no idea why this has happened so suddenly. > So > > > now I am seeing the specialist next week. I am anxious, nervous > but > > > kind of relieved. My teeth look great, but I cannot really chew > on > > > the right side ( longer part of face) jaw is not totally aligned > > > > > > > > > My guestion is Do you think I will still need braces before > surgery > > > or only after? Have most of you had to have braces before and > after > > > the surgery. I am trying to find out as much as I can before I > see > > > the specialist. ( Dental not surgeoun yet) > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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