Re: are others worried they will never get there?

[Guest guest]

Certainly fat children have either a genetic predisposition or chemical

imbalance, so perhaps our bodies can never really reach those magic MetLife

numbers, or if we do reach them, cannot stay there comfortably. I don't

think a poll would really tell the story, either, though, because some people

are just not done losing yet, even after 3 years...I know I wasn't. I'm now

thinner than I've ever been all my life, and I can't remember my weight in

high school, but I'm thinking 160-180, but just guessing. My last 20 pounds

came off maybe not even 8 months ago, and I will be 4 years out in Aug.

Then, I dropped another 7-10 pounds after my abdominoplasty. So, there are

many variables. Hmmm...

I would be curious, though, if people would mention their status as to being

a fat child and reaching a BMI under 25.

BTW, my BMI is now 25-25.3, depending on how good I was last night. )

And, I was a fat child.

in NJ

open RNY 8/99

306/155/whatever

TT & lipo 11/19/02

**********************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 8:31:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,

nanpug@... writes:

> .....I can't believe you noticed this too. When I go through all the

> profiles at obesityhelp I think the same thing. I was wondering " why " my

> body stopped in the 160-170 range, but, that is exactly where I was all

> through my teens. Of course I was HUGE then because everyone else was

> Barbie........ P.

> Re: are others worried they will never get there?

>

>

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

[Guest guest]

Certainly fat children have either a genetic predisposition or chemical

imbalance, so perhaps our bodies can never really reach those magic MetLife

numbers, or if we do reach them, cannot stay there comfortably. I don't

think a poll would really tell the story, either, though, because some people

are just not done losing yet, even after 3 years...I know I wasn't. I'm now

thinner than I've ever been all my life, and I can't remember my weight in

high school, but I'm thinking 160-180, but just guessing. My last 20 pounds

came off maybe not even 8 months ago, and I will be 4 years out in Aug.

Then, I dropped another 7-10 pounds after my abdominoplasty. So, there are

many variables. Hmmm...

I would be curious, though, if people would mention their status as to being

a fat child and reaching a BMI under 25.

BTW, my BMI is now 25-25.3, depending on how good I was last night. )

And, I was a fat child.

in NJ

open RNY 8/99

306/155/whatever

TT & lipo 11/19/02

**********************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 8:31:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,

nanpug@... writes:

> .....I can't believe you noticed this too. When I go through all the

> profiles at obesityhelp I think the same thing. I was wondering " why " my

> body stopped in the 160-170 range, but, that is exactly where I was all

> through my teens. Of course I was HUGE then because everyone else was

> Barbie........ P.

> Re: are others worried they will never get there?

>

>

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

[Guest guest]

I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

pill " .

Those that reach goal at the higher weights are the ones that ate

low-carb, exercised and worked like h*ll to get there. They

developed great living and eating habits early on and maintained

those habits 2 years later.

I am below goal at this point. But I worked like h*ll to get the

last 50 lbs off. I took no prisoners. I fixed my sights on a

thinness and let nothing get me off the path (afterall...isn't that

why I took such drastic measures and had the surgery, putting my

life on the line??).

Or..maybe I was too stupid and worried and followed all the advice

given from doctors and support groups and never pushed the envelope.

Who knows...whatever I did worked.

I have a folder with a couple of pictures in the photo section if

your interested.

No matter what the reasons...or the body type...or the metabolism...

Low carbs + Low sugar + exercise = Less body weight (sound

familiar? Someone has been saying that for years. The surgery just

allowed us to follow that advice without being hungry 24/7)

Godspeed...You can do it!!

Carol G.

> Hi everyone,

> I know there are many out there that are or have worried they

> would never reach goal. I have seen others post things such as

don't

> worry you will get there.. Just hang in there.. I have seen others

> write that they are slow losers but are then reassured that they

> would get there. Well, I am getting really worried. I had open ryn

> June 26, 01. Ucla with Dr. Sawicki. I started at 313.5. I consider

> myself to be a slow loser.I pretty much lost 85 pounds the first

11

> months or so. Then i stopped losing for 8 months. Then at 19

months

> out i lost another 21 pounds and haven't lost any thing since

then. I

> have no problem with the maintaining the weight lose. So I am 21

> months out and have lost about 107 pounds. That seems to be a

> significate amount of weight. It has taken me nearly 2 years and i

am

> still at least 70 pounds from goal. I don't think i will reach

goal.

> I know people say that the majority of people reach goal by at

least

> the one year mark maybe 1.5 years. well, i am way past that and

> worried i will never reach goal. I see some people write that at

> least your health is better and that is what is important. That

is

> true. However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

on

> meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still.

etc.

> still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low

carb/low

> fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

[Guest guest]

I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

pill " .

Those that reach goal at the higher weights are the ones that ate

low-carb, exercised and worked like h*ll to get there. They

developed great living and eating habits early on and maintained

those habits 2 years later.

I am below goal at this point. But I worked like h*ll to get the

last 50 lbs off. I took no prisoners. I fixed my sights on a

thinness and let nothing get me off the path (afterall...isn't that

why I took such drastic measures and had the surgery, putting my

life on the line??).

Or..maybe I was too stupid and worried and followed all the advice

given from doctors and support groups and never pushed the envelope.

Who knows...whatever I did worked.

I have a folder with a couple of pictures in the photo section if

your interested.

No matter what the reasons...or the body type...or the metabolism...

Low carbs + Low sugar + exercise = Less body weight (sound

familiar? Someone has been saying that for years. The surgery just

allowed us to follow that advice without being hungry 24/7)

Godspeed...You can do it!!

Carol G.

> Hi everyone,

> I know there are many out there that are or have worried they

> would never reach goal. I have seen others post things such as

don't

> worry you will get there.. Just hang in there.. I have seen others

> write that they are slow losers but are then reassured that they

> would get there. Well, I am getting really worried. I had open ryn

> June 26, 01. Ucla with Dr. Sawicki. I started at 313.5. I consider

> myself to be a slow loser.I pretty much lost 85 pounds the first

11

> months or so. Then i stopped losing for 8 months. Then at 19

months

> out i lost another 21 pounds and haven't lost any thing since

then. I

> have no problem with the maintaining the weight lose. So I am 21

> months out and have lost about 107 pounds. That seems to be a

> significate amount of weight. It has taken me nearly 2 years and i

am

> still at least 70 pounds from goal. I don't think i will reach

goal.

> I know people say that the majority of people reach goal by at

least

> the one year mark maybe 1.5 years. well, i am way past that and

> worried i will never reach goal. I see some people write that at

> least your health is better and that is what is important. That

is

> true. However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

on

> meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still.

etc.

> still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low

carb/low

> fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

[Guest guest]

I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

(whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

Again, it's just a theory.

in NJ

*******************

> I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> pill " .

>

[Guest guest]

I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

(whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

Again, it's just a theory.

in NJ

*******************

> I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> pill " .

>

[Guest guest]

But Lori, there's another variable, your surgery is not malabsorptive...is

that correct? That's why a poll would be tough to answer.

in NJ

**************************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 12:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

loriowen@... writes:

> If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

> once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

> from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

> life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

> it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

> perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

> will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

> least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

> writes:

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> >

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> >

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> >

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> >

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

[Guest guest]

But Lori, there's another variable, your surgery is not malabsorptive...is

that correct? That's why a poll would be tough to answer.

in NJ

**************************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 12:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

loriowen@... writes:

> If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

> once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

> from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

> life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

> it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

> perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

> will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

> least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

> writes:

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> >

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> >

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> >

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> >

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

[Guest guest]

Love your yahoo name serenitywon. I use Serene1 on another forum. No

one there understands why.LOL (not a wls related forum). Anyway, I

truly understand how you feel. I was morbidly obeses since I was 5.

I have always known plus sizes, fat, name calling. And as I reached

my 30s the healthy issues came into play, apnea, high bp, diabetes,

swollen limbs, and the social issues along with the lack of stores to

buy clothes. coming from 463lbs and a lifetime of obesity I always

wondered if I could ever get to somewhat *normal* a/k/a goal. The

charts say at 5'8 " and large framed my high wt should be 155-165.

HAH. I have seen so many people fly by me but many started at a much

lower wt with surgery. They hit goal at 12-18 months and stay there

within 10 lbs up and down. Me? It has been an ongoing battle for me

to stay around 200 lbs. And that is still Obese by standards. I am

up 20 lbs right now and can't seem to get it off. I am exercising

daily, 45 mins+, drinking my water, eating my protein first then

veggies, not grazing yet the scale seems to go down then right back

up.

So, at 9 yrs postop I am open to suggestions from anyone here. HELP.

I am really trying and am NOT eating extras. I have my 9 yr appt on

Apr 22 and will talk to my surgeon about suggestions.

Hang in there Serenitywon....We can do this.

Rita in Vermont

Open proximal rny 3/31/94

still here and still alive and still trying.

> Hi everyone,

> I It has taken me nearly 2 years and i am

> still at least 70 pounds from goal. I don't think i will reach

goal.

> I know people say that the majority of people reach goal by at

least

> the one year mark maybe 1.5 years. well, i am way past that and

> worried i will never reach goal.for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Love your yahoo name serenitywon. I use Serene1 on another forum. No

one there understands why.LOL (not a wls related forum). Anyway, I

truly understand how you feel. I was morbidly obeses since I was 5.

I have always known plus sizes, fat, name calling. And as I reached

my 30s the healthy issues came into play, apnea, high bp, diabetes,

swollen limbs, and the social issues along with the lack of stores to

buy clothes. coming from 463lbs and a lifetime of obesity I always

wondered if I could ever get to somewhat *normal* a/k/a goal. The

charts say at 5'8 " and large framed my high wt should be 155-165.

HAH. I have seen so many people fly by me but many started at a much

lower wt with surgery. They hit goal at 12-18 months and stay there

within 10 lbs up and down. Me? It has been an ongoing battle for me

to stay around 200 lbs. And that is still Obese by standards. I am

up 20 lbs right now and can't seem to get it off. I am exercising

daily, 45 mins+, drinking my water, eating my protein first then

veggies, not grazing yet the scale seems to go down then right back

up.

So, at 9 yrs postop I am open to suggestions from anyone here. HELP.

I am really trying and am NOT eating extras. I have my 9 yr appt on

Apr 22 and will talk to my surgeon about suggestions.

Hang in there Serenitywon....We can do this.

Rita in Vermont

Open proximal rny 3/31/94

still here and still alive and still trying.

> Hi everyone,

> I It has taken me nearly 2 years and i am

> still at least 70 pounds from goal. I don't think i will reach

goal.

> I know people say that the majority of people reach goal by at

least

> the one year mark maybe 1.5 years. well, i am way past that and

> worried i will never reach goal.for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

[Guest guest]

.....I can't believe you noticed this too. When I go through all the

profiles at obesityhelp I think the same thing. I was wondering " why " my

body stopped in the 160-170 range, but, that is exactly where I was all

through my teens. Of course I was HUGE then because everyone else was

Barbie........ P.

Re: are others worried they will never get there?

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

> *******************

>

> > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> > pill " .

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

.....I can't believe you noticed this too. When I go through all the

profiles at obesityhelp I think the same thing. I was wondering " why " my

body stopped in the 160-170 range, but, that is exactly where I was all

through my teens. Of course I was HUGE then because everyone else was

Barbie........ P.

Re: are others worried they will never get there?

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

> *******************

>

> > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> > pill " .

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

>

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

>

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

>

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

>

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

> *******************

>

> > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal.

> My

> > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

>

> > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the

> " magic

> > pill " .

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

>

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

>

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

>

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

>

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

> *******************

>

> > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal.

> My

> > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

>

> > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the

> " magic

> > pill " .

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was reading this and felt kind of sad. My expectations were

rather high before having surgery. I thought by now I would be off of

all of my meds, I would weigh a lot less then I do, I would have the

ability to do more exercise then I do, etc. No one ever promised me that

I would be off of meds. They told me that it could help. My Dad was a

diabetic on meds for a long time even at his ideal weight and healthy

eating habits. I have been fortunate that I am off the meds for diabetes

but I have been put back on meds for cholesterol and have recently had to

start medication for high blood pressure. I thing that is pretty stinky.

But there is no guarantee that I will be off of most or all of my meds

if I weighed 135 lbs.

I do know that I can breathe easier today then I could 2 years

ago. I can tie my own shoes. I don't need a wheelchair or a walker

anymore. I very seldom need my cane. I can play with my nieces and

nephews. They can sit on my lap now because I have one. I am happy at

the weight I am now? Nope. But I am grateful I am not 479 lbs anymore.

I have a lifetime to work at getting closer to ideal weight. I have to

do this one thing at a time. I don't know if this helps any.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:52:40 -0000 " serenitywon "

writes:

> However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

> on

> meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still. etc.

>

> still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low carb/low

>

> fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

[Guest guest]

I was reading this and felt kind of sad. My expectations were

rather high before having surgery. I thought by now I would be off of

all of my meds, I would weigh a lot less then I do, I would have the

ability to do more exercise then I do, etc. No one ever promised me that

I would be off of meds. They told me that it could help. My Dad was a

diabetic on meds for a long time even at his ideal weight and healthy

eating habits. I have been fortunate that I am off the meds for diabetes

but I have been put back on meds for cholesterol and have recently had to

start medication for high blood pressure. I thing that is pretty stinky.

But there is no guarantee that I will be off of most or all of my meds

if I weighed 135 lbs.

I do know that I can breathe easier today then I could 2 years

ago. I can tie my own shoes. I don't need a wheelchair or a walker

anymore. I very seldom need my cane. I can play with my nieces and

nephews. They can sit on my lap now because I have one. I am happy at

the weight I am now? Nope. But I am grateful I am not 479 lbs anymore.

I have a lifetime to work at getting closer to ideal weight. I have to

do this one thing at a time. I don't know if this helps any.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:52:40 -0000 " serenitywon "

writes:

> However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

> on

> meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still. etc.

>

> still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low carb/low

>

> fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Exactly, Lori!

I wasn't given a goal weight by my surgeon (Livingston, UCLA). Just as

well -- my goals turned out to be putting the C-PAP in the garage, walking

up a flight of stairs without getting out of breath, being able to do a

vigorous workout at the Y (and I've been lax in that of late)

So I lost 100 lbs roughly (365-385 to 274), would love to have lost 200, but

life is so much better now. Am I satisfied? Nope. Am I thankful? Absolutely.

Would I do it again? Yep.

Now trying to get my mind right to do Atkins and get some more off. Like

(nearly) everybody else, I have carb problems.

/john

Re: are others worried they will never get there?

> I was reading this and felt kind of sad. My expectations were

> rather high before having surgery. I thought by now I would be off of

> all of my meds, I would weigh a lot less then I do, I would have the

> ability to do more exercise then I do, etc. No one ever promised me that

> I would be off of meds. They told me that it could help. My Dad was a

> diabetic on meds for a long time even at his ideal weight and healthy

> eating habits. I have been fortunate that I am off the meds for diabetes

> but I have been put back on meds for cholesterol and have recently had to

> start medication for high blood pressure. I thing that is pretty stinky.

> But there is no guarantee that I will be off of most or all of my meds

> if I weighed 135 lbs.

> I do know that I can breathe easier today then I could 2 years

> ago. I can tie my own shoes. I don't need a wheelchair or a walker

> anymore. I very seldom need my cane. I can play with my nieces and

> nephews. They can sit on my lap now because I have one. I am happy at

> the weight I am now? Nope. But I am grateful I am not 479 lbs anymore.

> I have a lifetime to work at getting closer to ideal weight. I have to

> do this one thing at a time. I don't know if this helps any.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:52:40 -0000 " serenitywon "

> writes:

> > However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

> > on

> > meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still. etc.

> >

> > still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> > water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low carb/low

> >

> > fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> > everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Exactly, Lori!

I wasn't given a goal weight by my surgeon (Livingston, UCLA). Just as

well -- my goals turned out to be putting the C-PAP in the garage, walking

up a flight of stairs without getting out of breath, being able to do a

vigorous workout at the Y (and I've been lax in that of late)

So I lost 100 lbs roughly (365-385 to 274), would love to have lost 200, but

life is so much better now. Am I satisfied? Nope. Am I thankful? Absolutely.

Would I do it again? Yep.

Now trying to get my mind right to do Atkins and get some more off. Like

(nearly) everybody else, I have carb problems.

/john

Re: are others worried they will never get there?

> I was reading this and felt kind of sad. My expectations were

> rather high before having surgery. I thought by now I would be off of

> all of my meds, I would weigh a lot less then I do, I would have the

> ability to do more exercise then I do, etc. No one ever promised me that

> I would be off of meds. They told me that it could help. My Dad was a

> diabetic on meds for a long time even at his ideal weight and healthy

> eating habits. I have been fortunate that I am off the meds for diabetes

> but I have been put back on meds for cholesterol and have recently had to

> start medication for high blood pressure. I thing that is pretty stinky.

> But there is no guarantee that I will be off of most or all of my meds

> if I weighed 135 lbs.

> I do know that I can breathe easier today then I could 2 years

> ago. I can tie my own shoes. I don't need a wheelchair or a walker

> anymore. I very seldom need my cane. I can play with my nieces and

> nephews. They can sit on my lap now because I have one. I am happy at

> the weight I am now? Nope. But I am grateful I am not 479 lbs anymore.

> I have a lifetime to work at getting closer to ideal weight. I have to

> do this one thing at a time. I don't know if this helps any.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:52:40 -0000 " serenitywon "

> writes:

> > However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

> > on

> > meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still. etc.

> >

> > still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> > water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low carb/low

> >

> > fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> > everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, Les, I'm either a theory buster, or an anomaly, since I started getting

hefty at age 6. I did do my homework, and did just what the doc said...so

maybe that's the answer. Who knows really? I HAVE noticed myself that

people who start in the 4-500 lb range don't get as low as those of us in the

250-350 range. Yet, I started at about 310, my daughter started at about

250, and I ended up losing more weight. Of course, then, it could be the

surgery, and compliance issues too. I guess for every theory, there is an

exception...

Regards~

Jacque

Distal RNY, 5/30/00

Drs. Fox and Oh

310~126

Beginning BMI 50.0

Current BMI 20.3

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

>

[Guest guest]

Well, Les, I'm either a theory buster, or an anomaly, since I started getting

hefty at age 6. I did do my homework, and did just what the doc said...so

maybe that's the answer. Who knows really? I HAVE noticed myself that

people who start in the 4-500 lb range don't get as low as those of us in the

250-350 range. Yet, I started at about 310, my daughter started at about

250, and I ended up losing more weight. Of course, then, it could be the

surgery, and compliance issues too. I guess for every theory, there is an

exception...

Regards~

Jacque

Distal RNY, 5/30/00

Drs. Fox and Oh

310~126

Beginning BMI 50.0

Current BMI 20.3

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

>

[Guest guest]

I was always chunky. Started at age 6, as did my mom, my kids. Not about

food, but about a body type, organ type--whatever. Not a thing that the

victim controlled.

But chunkier than other kids, not huge or unable to move.

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Re: are others worried they will never get there?

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

> *******************

>

> > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> > pill " .

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was always chunky. Started at age 6, as did my mom, my kids. Not about

food, but about a body type, organ type--whatever. Not a thing that the

victim controlled.

But chunkier than other kids, not huge or unable to move.

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

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Re: are others worried they will never get there?

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

> *******************

>

> > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> > pill " .

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was 135 in my teens. Too huge to fit thru doors, my friends were ashamed

to be seen with me, my mother practically took my food out of my mouth.

And they think WE have head problems?

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Re: are others worried they will never get there?

>

>

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

> > *******************

> >

> > > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> > > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> > > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> > > pill " .

> > >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I was 135 in my teens. Too huge to fit thru doors, my friends were ashamed

to be seen with me, my mother practically took my food out of my mouth.

And they think WE have head problems?

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

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Re: are others worried they will never get there?

>

>

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

> > *******************

> >

> > > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

> > > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> > > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

> > > pill " .

> > >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My BMI is around 21, give or take. Was 49.9 when I started

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Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> >

> >

> > > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> > >

> > > Again, it's just a theory.

> > >

> > > in NJ

>

>

>

>