Re: are others worried they will never get there?

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> >

> >

> > > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> > >

> > > Again, it's just a theory.

> > >

> > > in NJ

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OMG! You struck a nerve! LOL

I am so spoiled now. There's a store near me that makes fresh pasta, you

just tell them what kind you want, they take the sheet, run it through the

machine to cut whatever type you want, and it is sooooo good! I just can't

eat that boxed stuff anymore. And they make their own sauces, too. Their

white clam sauce is to die for! LOL Looks like I know what's for dinner

tomorrow!

in NJ

*************************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 6:02:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jholdaway@... writes:

> <<Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair.>>

>

> Oh.........I am so guilty of being a pasta addict. I just got a set of

> pasta

> blades for my Kitchen Aid Mixer yesterday...and can't wait to try them out!

> I can make angel hair, spaghetti, macaroni, flat noodles and lasagna

> noodles. And I can't WAIT to try them out!

> Jac

[Guest guest]

OMG! You struck a nerve! LOL

I am so spoiled now. There's a store near me that makes fresh pasta, you

just tell them what kind you want, they take the sheet, run it through the

machine to cut whatever type you want, and it is sooooo good! I just can't

eat that boxed stuff anymore. And they make their own sauces, too. Their

white clam sauce is to die for! LOL Looks like I know what's for dinner

tomorrow!

in NJ

*************************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 6:02:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jholdaway@... writes:

> <<Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair.>>

>

> Oh.........I am so guilty of being a pasta addict. I just got a set of

> pasta

> blades for my Kitchen Aid Mixer yesterday...and can't wait to try them out!

> I can make angel hair, spaghetti, macaroni, flat noodles and lasagna

> noodles. And I can't WAIT to try them out!

> Jac

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Carol. However, I would like to emphasize is that there are

dozens of different types of WLS out there. They are not all equal. Proximals

generally have a harder time getting the weight off and keeping it off than do

distals. There are many other differences in surgery that directly affect

weight loss. I have seen many distals over 300 lbs reach goal. Not to mention,

that it is very hard to lose if you are given erroneous information. Eg, people

who start out using sugary drinks (Ensure, etc), have a more difficult road than

people who start out on low sugar, high protein drinks.

I really hate to see people beating themselves over the head because they feel

like it's all their fault. Perhaps sometimes it is, but I think there are many,

many cases where either the surgery was not the right type for them, or (as

happens more often than we would like to think), the surgery actually fails.

Staple line disruption is one of the causes of surgical failure, and even that

is not our fault. I had a SLD only a few months after my surgery, and I was

barely eating. I thought the plateau was my fault, but when I had the SLD

fixed, the weight came off like magic.

It may not be a magic bullet, but it really feels like that to me. I still have

to work hard to keep my protein and other nutrient levels up. It's not easy, it

takes up a lot of my time and energy. But this surgery has made it POSSIBLE for

me to keep the weight off.

BarbaraJean

distal

from 300 to 128

Re: are others worried they will never get there?

I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

pill " .

Those that reach goal at the higher weights are the ones that ate

low-carb, exercised and worked like h*ll to get there. They

developed great living and eating habits early on and maintained

those habits 2 years later.

I am below goal at this point. But I worked like h*ll to get the

last 50 lbs off. I took no prisoners. I fixed my sights on a

thinness and let nothing get me off the path (afterall...isn't that

why I took such drastic measures and had the surgery, putting my

life on the line??).

Or..maybe I was too stupid and worried and followed all the advice

given from doctors and support groups and never pushed the envelope.

Who knows...whatever I did worked.

I have a folder with a couple of pictures in the photo section if

your interested.

No matter what the reasons...or the body type...or the metabolism...

Low carbs + Low sugar + exercise = Less body weight (sound

familiar? Someone has been saying that for years. The surgery just

allowed us to follow that advice without being hungry 24/7)

Godspeed...You can do it!!

Carol G.

> Hi everyone,

> I know there are many out there that are or have worried they

> would never reach goal. I have seen others post things such as

don't

> worry you will get there.. Just hang in there.. I have seen others

> write that they are slow losers but are then reassured that they

> would get there. Well, I am getting really worried. I had open ryn

> June 26, 01. Ucla with Dr. Sawicki. I started at 313.5. I consider

> myself to be a slow loser.I pretty much lost 85 pounds the first

11

> months or so. Then i stopped losing for 8 months. Then at 19

months

> out i lost another 21 pounds and haven't lost any thing since

then. I

> have no problem with the maintaining the weight lose. So I am 21

> months out and have lost about 107 pounds. That seems to be a

> significate amount of weight. It has taken me nearly 2 years and i

am

> still at least 70 pounds from goal. I don't think i will reach

goal.

> I know people say that the majority of people reach goal by at

least

> the one year mark maybe 1.5 years. well, i am way past that and

> worried i will never reach goal. I see some people write that at

> least your health is better and that is what is important. That

is

> true. However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

on

> meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still.

etc.

> still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low

carb/low

> fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you Carol. However, I would like to emphasize is that there are

dozens of different types of WLS out there. They are not all equal. Proximals

generally have a harder time getting the weight off and keeping it off than do

distals. There are many other differences in surgery that directly affect

weight loss. I have seen many distals over 300 lbs reach goal. Not to mention,

that it is very hard to lose if you are given erroneous information. Eg, people

who start out using sugary drinks (Ensure, etc), have a more difficult road than

people who start out on low sugar, high protein drinks.

I really hate to see people beating themselves over the head because they feel

like it's all their fault. Perhaps sometimes it is, but I think there are many,

many cases where either the surgery was not the right type for them, or (as

happens more often than we would like to think), the surgery actually fails.

Staple line disruption is one of the causes of surgical failure, and even that

is not our fault. I had a SLD only a few months after my surgery, and I was

barely eating. I thought the plateau was my fault, but when I had the SLD

fixed, the weight came off like magic.

It may not be a magic bullet, but it really feels like that to me. I still have

to work hard to keep my protein and other nutrient levels up. It's not easy, it

takes up a lot of my time and energy. But this surgery has made it POSSIBLE for

me to keep the weight off.

BarbaraJean

distal

from 300 to 128

Re: are others worried they will never get there?

I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal. My

experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the " magic

pill " .

Those that reach goal at the higher weights are the ones that ate

low-carb, exercised and worked like h*ll to get there. They

developed great living and eating habits early on and maintained

those habits 2 years later.

I am below goal at this point. But I worked like h*ll to get the

last 50 lbs off. I took no prisoners. I fixed my sights on a

thinness and let nothing get me off the path (afterall...isn't that

why I took such drastic measures and had the surgery, putting my

life on the line??).

Or..maybe I was too stupid and worried and followed all the advice

given from doctors and support groups and never pushed the envelope.

Who knows...whatever I did worked.

I have a folder with a couple of pictures in the photo section if

your interested.

No matter what the reasons...or the body type...or the metabolism...

Low carbs + Low sugar + exercise = Less body weight (sound

familiar? Someone has been saying that for years. The surgery just

allowed us to follow that advice without being hungry 24/7)

Godspeed...You can do it!!

Carol G.

> Hi everyone,

> I know there are many out there that are or have worried they

> would never reach goal. I have seen others post things such as

don't

> worry you will get there.. Just hang in there.. I have seen others

> write that they are slow losers but are then reassured that they

> would get there. Well, I am getting really worried. I had open ryn

> June 26, 01. Ucla with Dr. Sawicki. I started at 313.5. I consider

> myself to be a slow loser.I pretty much lost 85 pounds the first

11

> months or so. Then i stopped losing for 8 months. Then at 19

months

> out i lost another 21 pounds and haven't lost any thing since

then. I

> have no problem with the maintaining the weight lose. So I am 21

> months out and have lost about 107 pounds. That seems to be a

> significate amount of weight. It has taken me nearly 2 years and i

am

> still at least 70 pounds from goal. I don't think i will reach

goal.

> I know people say that the majority of people reach goal by at

least

> the one year mark maybe 1.5 years. well, i am way past that and

> worried i will never reach goal. I see some people write that at

> least your health is better and that is what is important. That

is

> true. However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

on

> meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still.

etc.

> still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low

carb/low

> fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

Yep, that's right. If a poll were taken it would have to be pretty

extensive. I personally wouldn't want to right those poll questions.

Lori O.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:16:43 EST WATNEXT@... writes:

But Lori, there's another variable, your surgery is not

malabsorptive...is that correct? That's why a poll would be tough to

answer.

in NJ

**************************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 12:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

loriowen@... writes:

If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

>

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

>

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

>

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

>

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

[Guest guest]

Yep, that's right. If a poll were taken it would have to be pretty

extensive. I personally wouldn't want to right those poll questions.

Lori O.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:16:43 EST WATNEXT@... writes:

But Lori, there's another variable, your surgery is not

malabsorptive...is that correct? That's why a poll would be tough to

answer.

in NJ

**************************

In a message dated 3/29/2003 12:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

loriowen@... writes:

If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

>

> a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

>

> (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

>

> year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

>

> later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

>

> Again, it's just a theory.

>

> in NJ

[Guest guest]

Umm carbs. I don't have a problem with carbs (hehe). I just think I can

eat all I want and suffer no consequence. I don't think that's a

problem. Do you think that's a problem? (this is a rhetorical question.

Of course it's a problem.) I hate carb monsters expecially the nice

sugar coated and/or chocolate ones. Lori O.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:17:49 -0800 " "

writes:

> Exactly, Lori!

>

> I wasn't given a goal weight by my surgeon (Livingston, UCLA). Just

> as

> well -- my goals turned out to be putting the C-PAP in the garage,

> walking

> up a flight of stairs without getting out of breath, being able to

> do a

> vigorous workout at the Y (and I've been lax in that of late)

>

> So I lost 100 lbs roughly (365-385 to 274), would love to have lost

> 200, but

> life is so much better now. Am I satisfied? Nope. Am I thankful?

> Absolutely.

> Would I do it again? Yep.

>

> Now trying to get my mind right to do Atkins and get some more off.

> Like

> (nearly) everybody else, I have carb problems.

>

> /john

>

> Re: are others worried they will never get

> there?

>

>

> > I was reading this and felt kind of sad. My expectations

> were

> > rather high before having surgery. I thought by now I would be

> off of

> > all of my meds, I would weigh a lot less then I do, I would have

> the

> > ability to do more exercise then I do, etc. No one ever promised

> me that

> > I would be off of meds. They told me that it could help. My Dad

> was a

> > diabetic on meds for a long time even at his ideal weight and

> healthy

> > eating habits. I have been fortunate that I am off the meds for

> diabetes

> > but I have been put back on meds for cholesterol and have recently

> had to

> > start medication for high blood pressure. I thing that is pretty

> stinky.

> > But there is no guarantee that I will be off of most or all of my

> meds

> > if I weighed 135 lbs.

> > I do know that I can breathe easier today then I could 2

> years

> > ago. I can tie my own shoes. I don't need a wheelchair or a

> walker

> > anymore. I very seldom need my cane. I can play with my nieces

> and

> > nephews. They can sit on my lap now because I have one. I am

> happy at

> > the weight I am now? Nope. But I am grateful I am not 479 lbs

> anymore.

> > I have a lifetime to work at getting closer to ideal weight. I

> have to

> > do this one thing at a time. I don't know if this helps any.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> > Current Weight 335

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:52:40 -0000 " serenitywon "

>

> > writes:

> > > However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

> > > on

> > > meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still.

> etc.

> > >

> > > still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> > > water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low

> carb/low

> > >

> > > fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> > > everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Umm carbs. I don't have a problem with carbs (hehe). I just think I can

eat all I want and suffer no consequence. I don't think that's a

problem. Do you think that's a problem? (this is a rhetorical question.

Of course it's a problem.) I hate carb monsters expecially the nice

sugar coated and/or chocolate ones. Lori O.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:17:49 -0800 " "

writes:

> Exactly, Lori!

>

> I wasn't given a goal weight by my surgeon (Livingston, UCLA). Just

> as

> well -- my goals turned out to be putting the C-PAP in the garage,

> walking

> up a flight of stairs without getting out of breath, being able to

> do a

> vigorous workout at the Y (and I've been lax in that of late)

>

> So I lost 100 lbs roughly (365-385 to 274), would love to have lost

> 200, but

> life is so much better now. Am I satisfied? Nope. Am I thankful?

> Absolutely.

> Would I do it again? Yep.

>

> Now trying to get my mind right to do Atkins and get some more off.

> Like

> (nearly) everybody else, I have carb problems.

>

> /john

>

> Re: are others worried they will never get

> there?

>

>

> > I was reading this and felt kind of sad. My expectations

> were

> > rather high before having surgery. I thought by now I would be

> off of

> > all of my meds, I would weigh a lot less then I do, I would have

> the

> > ability to do more exercise then I do, etc. No one ever promised

> me that

> > I would be off of meds. They told me that it could help. My Dad

> was a

> > diabetic on meds for a long time even at his ideal weight and

> healthy

> > eating habits. I have been fortunate that I am off the meds for

> diabetes

> > but I have been put back on meds for cholesterol and have recently

> had to

> > start medication for high blood pressure. I thing that is pretty

> stinky.

> > But there is no guarantee that I will be off of most or all of my

> meds

> > if I weighed 135 lbs.

> > I do know that I can breathe easier today then I could 2

> years

> > ago. I can tie my own shoes. I don't need a wheelchair or a

> walker

> > anymore. I very seldom need my cane. I can play with my nieces

> and

> > nephews. They can sit on my lap now because I have one. I am

> happy at

> > the weight I am now? Nope. But I am grateful I am not 479 lbs

> anymore.

> > I have a lifetime to work at getting closer to ideal weight. I

> have to

> > do this one thing at a time. I don't know if this helps any.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> > Current Weight 335

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:52:40 -0000 " serenitywon "

>

> > writes:

> > > However, My health isn't really better.. I am still diabetic

> > > on

> > > meds. still high blood pressure still have gerd on meds still.

> etc.

> > >

> > > still have everything i had before surgery.I do the

> > > water/protein/exercise/vits regemine very high protein/ low

> carb/low

> > >

> > > fat. What else should i do to help this along? Thanks for

> > > everything .. Sorry for the lenght. Thanks

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I considered myself a fat child. I had a very skinny sister and I was the

" fat one " . Looking back, I was probably just overweight, not obese, until I

was in my 20's. I am 5'1 " with small bones and weigh 135 lbs. (lowest was

129, it's that swollen time of the month for me) The dr's goal is 125, not

there yet. I started at 252, highest weight was 260.

Margie in NM

RNY 9-7-01

252/135ish

Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> >

> >

> > > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> > >

> > > Again, it's just a theory.

> > >

> > > in NJ

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I considered myself a fat child. I had a very skinny sister and I was the

" fat one " . Looking back, I was probably just overweight, not obese, until I

was in my 20's. I am 5'1 " with small bones and weigh 135 lbs. (lowest was

129, it's that swollen time of the month for me) The dr's goal is 125, not

there yet. I started at 252, highest weight was 260.

Margie in NM

RNY 9-7-01

252/135ish

Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> >

> >

> > > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> > > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> > > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> > > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> > > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> > >

> > > Again, it's just a theory.

> > >

> > > in NJ

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was a fat child. I remember my father (who was and still is very weight

concious), threatening me, bribing me, sending me from the dinner table,

trying every method he could think of to make me lose weight. I am the

oldest of 5, and the only one to have a childhood weight problem. My mother

had a weight problem as a child. I reached a BMI of about 21, 2 1/2 years

out, and have maintained at 22 for the last 18 years. My mother, who had WLS

a year after I did, has maintained at about the same.

As an interesting side note...my youngest sister would probably now qualify

for WLS, and my middle sister (who used to be a stewardess), and youngest

brother are approaching that point as well.

Jac

*

* I would be curious, though, if people would mention their status

* as to being

* a fat child and reaching a BMI under 25.

*

*

* > >

* > > in NJ

*

*

*

*

[Guest guest]

I was a fat child. I remember my father (who was and still is very weight

concious), threatening me, bribing me, sending me from the dinner table,

trying every method he could think of to make me lose weight. I am the

oldest of 5, and the only one to have a childhood weight problem. My mother

had a weight problem as a child. I reached a BMI of about 21, 2 1/2 years

out, and have maintained at 22 for the last 18 years. My mother, who had WLS

a year after I did, has maintained at about the same.

As an interesting side note...my youngest sister would probably now qualify

for WLS, and my middle sister (who used to be a stewardess), and youngest

brother are approaching that point as well.

Jac

*

* I would be curious, though, if people would mention their status

* as to being

* a fat child and reaching a BMI under 25.

*

*

* > >

* > > in NJ

*

*

*

*

[Guest guest]

Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair...goes down

much easier than the heavier pastas...way to easy.

in NJ

************************

> Umm carbs. I don't have a problem with carbs (hehe). I just think

I can eat all I want and suffer no consequence. I don't think that's

a problem. Do you think that's a problem? (this is a rhetorical

question. Of course it's a problem.) I hate carb monsters expecially

the nice sugar coated and/or chocolate ones. Lori O.

>

[Guest guest]

Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair...goes down

much easier than the heavier pastas...way to easy.

in NJ

************************

> Umm carbs. I don't have a problem with carbs (hehe). I just think

I can eat all I want and suffer no consequence. I don't think that's

a problem. Do you think that's a problem? (this is a rhetorical

question. Of course it's a problem.) I hate carb monsters expecially

the nice sugar coated and/or chocolate ones. Lori O.

>

[Guest guest]

<<Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair.>>

Oh.........I am so guilty of being a pasta addict. I just got a set of pasta

blades for my Kitchen Aid Mixer yesterday...and can't wait to try them out!

I can make angel hair, spaghetti, macaroni, flat noodles and lasagna

noodles. And I can't WAIT to try them out!

Jac

[Guest guest]

<<Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair.>>

Oh.........I am so guilty of being a pasta addict. I just got a set of pasta

blades for my Kitchen Aid Mixer yesterday...and can't wait to try them out!

I can make angel hair, spaghetti, macaroni, flat noodles and lasagna

noodles. And I can't WAIT to try them out!

Jac

[Guest guest]

Nope, doesn't look like you're an anomaly, but by many of the

responses, the theory has been busted! LOL

Compliance plays a huge part, I'm sure, but by the same token,

different docs have different rules, so maybe some work better than

others? Who knows...

in NJ

********************

> Well, Les, I'm either a theory buster, or an anomaly, since I

started getting hefty at age 6. I did do my homework, and did just

what the doc said...so maybe that's the answer.

[Guest guest]

Nope, doesn't look like you're an anomaly, but by many of the

responses, the theory has been busted! LOL

Compliance plays a huge part, I'm sure, but by the same token,

different docs have different rules, so maybe some work better than

others? Who knows...

in NJ

********************

> Well, Les, I'm either a theory buster, or an anomaly, since I

started getting hefty at age 6. I did do my homework, and did just

what the doc said...so maybe that's the answer.

[Guest guest]

The other thing that I have noticed about people who were " thin " or normal

as a child is that YES, they may gain weight......but they seem to stick

around the " 30 " pound mark. Doesn't seem as though they go to the MO stage.

YUP, once again you are an exception.......but your a terrific one......does

that matter P.

Re: Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

> once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

> from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

> life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

> it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

> perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

> will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

> least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

> writes:

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> >

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> >

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> >

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> >

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

> > *******************

> >

> > > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal.

> > My

> > > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> >

> > > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the

> > " magic

> > > pill " .

> > >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The other thing that I have noticed about people who were " thin " or normal

as a child is that YES, they may gain weight......but they seem to stick

around the " 30 " pound mark. Doesn't seem as though they go to the MO stage.

YUP, once again you are an exception.......but your a terrific one......does

that matter P.

Re: Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to the rule

> once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I graduated

> from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point in my

> life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time taking

> it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

> perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I finally

> will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer for at

> least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

> writes:

> > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never seen

> >

> > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached goal

> >

> > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the first

> >

> > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained weight

> >

> > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> >

> > Again, it's just a theory.

> >

> > in NJ

> > *******************

> >

> > > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach goal.

> > My

> > > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are the

> > > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those substantially

> >

> > > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the

> > " magic

> > > pill " .

> > >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yep, I'll settle for a terrific exception. Actually, I think part of my

problem is that I had several addictions growing up and was not focused

on any one. So the more I gave the other ones up, the more practice I

got on the eating thing. Boy, the alcohol was a killer to give up but

not nearly as bad as the food. You can live a life time without alcohol,

ya die when you go without food.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:26:54 -0500 " nancy pugliese "

writes:

> The other thing that I have noticed about people who were " thin " or

> normal

> as a child is that YES, they may gain weight......but they seem to

> stick

> around the " 30 " pound mark. Doesn't seem as though they go to the

> MO stage.

> YUP, once again you are an exception.......but your a terrific

> one......does

> that matter P.

> Re: Re: are others worried they will never

> get

> there?

>

>

> > If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to

> the rule

> > once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I

> graduated

> > from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point

> in my

> > life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time

> taking

> > it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

> > perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I

> finally

> > will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer

> for at

> > least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> > Current Weight 335

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

>

> > writes:

> > > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never

> seen

> > >

> > > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached

> goal

> > >

> > > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the

> first

> > >

> > > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained

> weight

> > >

> > > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> > >

> > > Again, it's just a theory.

> > >

> > > in NJ

> > > *******************

> > >

> > > > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach

> goal.

> > > My

> > > > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are

> the

> > > > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those

> substantially

> > >

> > > > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the

> > > " magic

> > > > pill " .

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > >

> > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yep, I'll settle for a terrific exception. Actually, I think part of my

problem is that I had several addictions growing up and was not focused

on any one. So the more I gave the other ones up, the more practice I

got on the eating thing. Boy, the alcohol was a killer to give up but

not nearly as bad as the food. You can live a life time without alcohol,

ya die when you go without food.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:26:54 -0500 " nancy pugliese "

writes:

> The other thing that I have noticed about people who were " thin " or

> normal

> as a child is that YES, they may gain weight......but they seem to

> stick

> around the " 30 " pound mark. Doesn't seem as though they go to the

> MO stage.

> YUP, once again you are an exception.......but your a terrific

> one......does

> that matter P.

> Re: Re: are others worried they will never

> get

> there?

>

>

> > If this turns out to be true, I guess I will be the exception to

> the rule

> > once more. I was skinny as a child. I weighed 135 lbs when I

> graduated

> > from high school. I was actually at my ideal weight at that point

> in my

> > life. By 41 I weighed 479 lbs. I am having a dickens of a time

> taking

> > it off. My eating habits have changed drastically all though not

> > perfect. I suspect my biggest problem is my activity level. I

> finally

> > will have money in a week to join a gym and get a personal trainer

> for at

> > least a session or two. We'll see how that goes.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> > Current Weight 335

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:52:14 -0000 " watnext2001 "

>

> > writes:

> > > I have a theory. I don't know if it's bull or not as I've never

> seen

> > >

> > > a poll asking, but many people I've spoken to that have reached

> goal

> > >

> > > (whatever that is) or have gotten under a BMI of 25 within the

> first

> > >

> > > year to a year and a half, were not fat children, but gained

> weight

> > >

> > > later in life. It seems that those of us who were fat as young

> > > children take much longer, if ever, to reach normal range BMI's.

> > >

> > > Again, it's just a theory.

> > >

> > > in NJ

> > > *******************

> > >

> > > > I think most WLS ppl are more like you...they don't reach

> goal.

> > > My

> > > > experience has been that the ppl that readily reach goal are

> the

> > > > ones that had the surgery under 300 lbs. For those

> substantially

> > >

> > > > over 300 lbs...in the 400-500 range the tool was not the the

> > > " magic

> > > > pill " .

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > >

> > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I can eat EVERY pasta with ease.....EXCEPT Angel Hair........it comes back

up every time.......we are such a different bunch............ P.

RE: Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> <<Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair.>>

>

> Oh.........I am so guilty of being a pasta addict. I just got a set of

pasta

> blades for my Kitchen Aid Mixer yesterday...and can't wait to try them

out!

> I can make angel hair, spaghetti, macaroni, flat noodles and lasagna

> noodles. And I can't WAIT to try them out!

> Jac

>

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can eat EVERY pasta with ease.....EXCEPT Angel Hair........it comes back

up every time.......we are such a different bunch............ P.

RE: Re: are others worried they will never get

there?

> <<Ahhh, and pasta. My pasta of choice now is angel hair.>>

>

> Oh.........I am so guilty of being a pasta addict. I just got a set of

pasta

> blades for my Kitchen Aid Mixer yesterday...and can't wait to try them

out!

> I can make angel hair, spaghetti, macaroni, flat noodles and lasagna

> noodles. And I can't WAIT to try them out!

> Jac

>

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>