Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi all, I've been a bit freaked out about recent reports of vitamins not being absorbed and coming out whole a few days later. Yuck! I've always taken One-A-Day Essentials and felt OK with them; labs have always been good. What do some of you experts think? Are there some multi vites that are more absorbable? hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi all, I've been a bit freaked out about recent reports of vitamins not being absorbed and coming out whole a few days later. Yuck! I've always taken One-A-Day Essentials and felt OK with them; labs have always been good. What do some of you experts think? Are there some multi vites that are more absorbable? hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 I take the ones through Bariatric Supplement System. They are bioavailable as they were made specifically for US. Robina LAP 7/27/01 -115 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 I take the ones through Bariatric Supplement System. They are bioavailable as they were made specifically for US. Robina LAP 7/27/01 -115 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Dan~ Don't laugh, but this is almost exactly what I do. I don't set the alarm, as the bladder is alarm enough. When I get up in the middle of the night to go, I take my iron, and vitamin C. It works for me! Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~126 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.3 > I might just set the alarm for 2:00 a.m. and get up and take it in > the middle of the night so I do not have to worry about something > interferring with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Dan~ Don't laugh, but this is almost exactly what I do. I don't set the alarm, as the bladder is alarm enough. When I get up in the middle of the night to go, I take my iron, and vitamin C. It works for me! Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~126 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.3 > I might just set the alarm for 2:00 a.m. and get up and take it in > the middle of the night so I do not have to worry about something > interferring with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 There are five factors that will affect the bioavailability of various vitamins and minerals. The first is the method of delivery, i.e., tablet, capsule or liquid. A few years back the FDA set standards for dissolution of supplements. If they meet the standards, the delivery vehicle, capsule or tablet, will dissolve within 45 minutes. You can test this by dropping the tablet or capsule into a glass of water. With a capsule, the material will stay in capsule shape even though the capsule has dissolved. Mash the capsule against the glass to see if the capsule has dissolved. The second factor is the form of the supplement. Some forms of minerals require stomach acid to be broken down to a size where they can be absorbed through the intestinal wall. Generally, minerals in amino acid chelate form are more absorbable because they are small enough to be absorbed without digestive action. The third factor is your age. People over 50 just have a harder time absorbing vitamins and minerals. The fourth factor is your sex. Post menopausal women tend to have a harder time absorbing calcium. The fifth factor is the type of operation you had. If you had a proximal RNY, you will have a much longer intestinal tract from which the supplements can be absorbed. If you had a distal RNY or BPD/DS, you will have a much shorter intestinal tract from which supplements can be absorbed. The distals and BPD/DSs will not achieve as high a level of bioavailability as a proximal RNY. While not necessarily a factor, there is a supplement additive that can increase the bioavailability of vitamins and minerals. For more information about this, please email me directly. The ultimate answer will come in the results of your lab tests. There are some supplements that a higher bioavailability level, but if you can achieve a satisfactory bioavailability level from what you are using, there would be little reason to change. Ray Hooks For WLS nutrition info, visit http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com RNY999@... wrote: > > Hi all, > I've been a bit freaked out about recent reports of vitamins not being absorbed and coming out whole a few days later. Yuck! I've always taken One-A-Day Essentials and felt OK with them; labs have always been good. What do some of you experts think? Are there some multi vites that are more absorbable? > hugs, > Ann > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 There are five factors that will affect the bioavailability of various vitamins and minerals. The first is the method of delivery, i.e., tablet, capsule or liquid. A few years back the FDA set standards for dissolution of supplements. If they meet the standards, the delivery vehicle, capsule or tablet, will dissolve within 45 minutes. You can test this by dropping the tablet or capsule into a glass of water. With a capsule, the material will stay in capsule shape even though the capsule has dissolved. Mash the capsule against the glass to see if the capsule has dissolved. The second factor is the form of the supplement. Some forms of minerals require stomach acid to be broken down to a size where they can be absorbed through the intestinal wall. Generally, minerals in amino acid chelate form are more absorbable because they are small enough to be absorbed without digestive action. The third factor is your age. People over 50 just have a harder time absorbing vitamins and minerals. The fourth factor is your sex. Post menopausal women tend to have a harder time absorbing calcium. The fifth factor is the type of operation you had. If you had a proximal RNY, you will have a much longer intestinal tract from which the supplements can be absorbed. If you had a distal RNY or BPD/DS, you will have a much shorter intestinal tract from which supplements can be absorbed. The distals and BPD/DSs will not achieve as high a level of bioavailability as a proximal RNY. While not necessarily a factor, there is a supplement additive that can increase the bioavailability of vitamins and minerals. For more information about this, please email me directly. The ultimate answer will come in the results of your lab tests. There are some supplements that a higher bioavailability level, but if you can achieve a satisfactory bioavailability level from what you are using, there would be little reason to change. Ray Hooks For WLS nutrition info, visit http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com RNY999@... wrote: > > Hi all, > I've been a bit freaked out about recent reports of vitamins not being absorbed and coming out whole a few days later. Yuck! I've always taken One-A-Day Essentials and felt OK with them; labs have always been good. What do some of you experts think? Are there some multi vites that are more absorbable? > hugs, > Ann > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 I haven't had any problems with the iron that I take causing stomach problems. With all the calcium I take, and having to keep it separate from other elements, it works for me to take it in the night, and once during the day away from all other things except vitamin C and B12. I take the Polysaccharide iron...and my labs are great! No tummy disturbances. YMMV, FWIW. Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~126 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.3 > Hi, > > I don't post often....and sometimes don't pay a lot of attention to > things....but just noticed this one and had an iron question. Possibly > someone has already said something about it.....so forgive me if I'm > repeating things already addressed..... > > I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg > tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. That's > great...however the prescription paperwork that comes with it describing > side effects and instructions says to take it two hours after or one hour > before.....eggs, dairy, caffeine mainly....well that's hard to do!! Anyone > else have this problem. Also.....it says not to take it within half an > hour > of laying down. > > Your post here says that you take it in the middle of the night. The > timing > is perfect, but does it cause indigestion or something? Just wondering why > the Rx sheet said not to take it within half hour of laying down. > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > Vicki > Gresham, OR > Open RNY 2/7/01 > Dr. Latham Flanagan (Eugene, OR) > 245.......160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 I haven't had any problems with the iron that I take causing stomach problems. With all the calcium I take, and having to keep it separate from other elements, it works for me to take it in the night, and once during the day away from all other things except vitamin C and B12. I take the Polysaccharide iron...and my labs are great! No tummy disturbances. YMMV, FWIW. Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~126 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.3 > Hi, > > I don't post often....and sometimes don't pay a lot of attention to > things....but just noticed this one and had an iron question. Possibly > someone has already said something about it.....so forgive me if I'm > repeating things already addressed..... > > I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg > tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. That's > great...however the prescription paperwork that comes with it describing > side effects and instructions says to take it two hours after or one hour > before.....eggs, dairy, caffeine mainly....well that's hard to do!! Anyone > else have this problem. Also.....it says not to take it within half an > hour > of laying down. > > Your post here says that you take it in the middle of the night. The > timing > is perfect, but does it cause indigestion or something? Just wondering why > the Rx sheet said not to take it within half hour of laying down. > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > Vicki > Gresham, OR > Open RNY 2/7/01 > Dr. Latham Flanagan (Eugene, OR) > 245.......160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In a message dated 4/3/2003 8:36:05 PM Central Standard Time, res0l0g4@... writes: > I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg > tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. ------------------------------ There are other kinds of iron you can take that only need be taken once a day. I use a prescription iron called Trinsicon (actually I buy the generic: foltrin; it's a cheaper co-pay). Many don't even bother with rx iron. But my insurance doesn't cover OTC, while it does cover rx supplements. My old insurance didn't cover ANY vits/mins whether rx or not. Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In a message dated 4/3/2003 8:36:05 PM Central Standard Time, res0l0g4@... writes: > I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg > tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. ------------------------------ There are other kinds of iron you can take that only need be taken once a day. I use a prescription iron called Trinsicon (actually I buy the generic: foltrin; it's a cheaper co-pay). Many don't even bother with rx iron. But my insurance doesn't cover OTC, while it does cover rx supplements. My old insurance didn't cover ANY vits/mins whether rx or not. Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In a message dated 4/3/2003 6:34:01 PM Central Standard Time, jacquemil@... writes: > Don't laugh, but this is almost exactly what I do. I don't set the alarm, > as > the bladder is alarm enough. When I get up in the middle of the night to > go, > I take my iron, and vitamin C. It works for me. -------------------------------------- Yup, yup, yup. I usually gotta " go " around 5am. Slop down that iron & C and crawl back in bed. Works great. Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In a message dated 4/3/2003 6:34:01 PM Central Standard Time, jacquemil@... writes: > Don't laugh, but this is almost exactly what I do. I don't set the alarm, > as > the bladder is alarm enough. When I get up in the middle of the night to > go, > I take my iron, and vitamin C. It works for me. -------------------------------------- Yup, yup, yup. I usually gotta " go " around 5am. Slop down that iron & C and crawl back in bed. Works great. Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Hi, I don't post often....and sometimes don't pay a lot of attention to things....but just noticed this one and had an iron question. Possibly someone has already said something about it.....so forgive me if I'm repeating things already addressed..... I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. That's great...however the prescription paperwork that comes with it describing side effects and instructions says to take it two hours after or one hour before.....eggs, dairy, caffeine mainly....well that's hard to do!! Anyone else have this problem. Also.....it says not to take it within half an hour of laying down. Your post here says that you take it in the middle of the night. The timing is perfect, but does it cause indigestion or something? Just wondering why the Rx sheet said not to take it within half hour of laying down. Thanks in advance for any input. Vicki Gresham, OR Open RNY 2/7/01 Dr. Latham Flanagan (Eugene, OR) 245.......160 Re: bioavailable vitamins > Dan~ > Don't laugh, but this is almost exactly what I do. I don't set the alarm, as > the bladder is alarm enough. When I get up in the middle of the night to go, > I take my iron, and vitamin C. It works for me! > Regards~ > Jacque > Distal RNY, 5/30/00 > Drs. Fox and Oh > 310~126 > Beginning BMI 50.0 > Current BMI 20.3 > > I might just set the alarm for 2:00 a.m. and get up and take it in > > the middle of the night so I do not have to worry about something > > interferring with it! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Hi, I don't post often....and sometimes don't pay a lot of attention to things....but just noticed this one and had an iron question. Possibly someone has already said something about it.....so forgive me if I'm repeating things already addressed..... I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. That's great...however the prescription paperwork that comes with it describing side effects and instructions says to take it two hours after or one hour before.....eggs, dairy, caffeine mainly....well that's hard to do!! Anyone else have this problem. Also.....it says not to take it within half an hour of laying down. Your post here says that you take it in the middle of the night. The timing is perfect, but does it cause indigestion or something? Just wondering why the Rx sheet said not to take it within half hour of laying down. Thanks in advance for any input. Vicki Gresham, OR Open RNY 2/7/01 Dr. Latham Flanagan (Eugene, OR) 245.......160 Re: bioavailable vitamins > Dan~ > Don't laugh, but this is almost exactly what I do. I don't set the alarm, as > the bladder is alarm enough. When I get up in the middle of the night to go, > I take my iron, and vitamin C. It works for me! > Regards~ > Jacque > Distal RNY, 5/30/00 > Drs. Fox and Oh > 310~126 > Beginning BMI 50.0 > Current BMI 20.3 > > I might just set the alarm for 2:00 a.m. and get up and take it in > > the middle of the night so I do not have to worry about something > > interferring with it! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 And my co-pay is so high, OTC is cheaper Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: bioavailable vitamins > In a message dated 4/3/2003 8:36:05 PM Central Standard Time, > res0l0g4@... writes: > > > I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg > > tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. > ------------------------------ > There are other kinds of iron you can take that only need be taken once a > day. I use a prescription iron called Trinsicon (actually I buy the generic: > foltrin; it's a cheaper co-pay). Many don't even bother with rx iron. But my > insurance doesn't cover OTC, while it does cover rx supplements. My old > insurance didn't cover ANY vits/mins whether rx or not. > > Carol A > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 And my co-pay is so high, OTC is cheaper Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: bioavailable vitamins > In a message dated 4/3/2003 8:36:05 PM Central Standard Time, > res0l0g4@... writes: > > > I am taking a prescription iron supplement, Ferrous Gluconate 324 mg > > tablets....the doctor said to take it three times per day. > ------------------------------ > There are other kinds of iron you can take that only need be taken once a > day. I use a prescription iron called Trinsicon (actually I buy the generic: > foltrin; it's a cheaper co-pay). Many don't even bother with rx iron. But my > insurance doesn't cover OTC, while it does cover rx supplements. My old > insurance didn't cover ANY vits/mins whether rx or not. > > Carol A > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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