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Hi Colleen,

I had surgery on the 5th of november, and I am still wired shut, and

hating it. I have two small children, so that is the toughest. my

2 year old gets into everything, so I can't communicate, and that is

very frustrating. I have to tell you, I had surgery on a friday, in

the hospital until monday. that following saturday, 8 days post,

was my WORST DAY!!!!!! I think at that point I had enough trying to

eat, and not getting anything in my mouth becuause of the inner

swelling, and my husband kept pressuring me to eat, and I just

couldn't, no matter what I did. I really wanted to go back into

the hospita and go on IV---my doctor said that was riduculouse

because i was a grown woman.

I would like to tell you it does get better, and it does, but I

can't wait for the entire process to be over. I really can't. my

face hurts today alot from trying to talk all weekend. we had a lot

of parties to go to, that I did NOT want to go to. I have becume a

miserable grumy hermit. My wires come off on wednesday, so i can at

least have mashed potatoes for christmas....but, the non talking is

real tough.

good luck, I am sorry I am not a help, but I know how you feel, and

hang in there!!! bethanne

>

> Hi all,

> I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS brought

> down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed to

> have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

of

> surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school and

> have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

awful

> it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. "

I

> was actually looking forward to some down time because I have been

> so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

that

> its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and

I

> feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

who

> have been there...

>

> Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine and

> thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

my

> body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

with

> a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts are

> sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all and

> just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

swelling

> is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

belongs

> to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

and

> requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

times

> the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am very

> nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

have

> my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its so

> uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

Not

> being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

so

> lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

>

> On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

night

> (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

went

> pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

and

> around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

that

> I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet correctly

> for the first time ever.

>

> I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

to

> this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

shut?

> Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

if

> it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such an

> optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

the

> opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

in

> this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going through.

> Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> would be appreciated!

> -Colleen

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Hi Colleen,

I had surgery on the 5th of november, and I am still wired shut, and

hating it. I have two small children, so that is the toughest. my

2 year old gets into everything, so I can't communicate, and that is

very frustrating. I have to tell you, I had surgery on a friday, in

the hospital until monday. that following saturday, 8 days post,

was my WORST DAY!!!!!! I think at that point I had enough trying to

eat, and not getting anything in my mouth becuause of the inner

swelling, and my husband kept pressuring me to eat, and I just

couldn't, no matter what I did. I really wanted to go back into

the hospita and go on IV---my doctor said that was riduculouse

because i was a grown woman.

I would like to tell you it does get better, and it does, but I

can't wait for the entire process to be over. I really can't. my

face hurts today alot from trying to talk all weekend. we had a lot

of parties to go to, that I did NOT want to go to. I have becume a

miserable grumy hermit. My wires come off on wednesday, so i can at

least have mashed potatoes for christmas....but, the non talking is

real tough.

good luck, I am sorry I am not a help, but I know how you feel, and

hang in there!!! bethanne

>

> Hi all,

> I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS brought

> down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed to

> have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

of

> surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school and

> have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

awful

> it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. "

I

> was actually looking forward to some down time because I have been

> so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

that

> its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and

I

> feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

who

> have been there...

>

> Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine and

> thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

my

> body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

with

> a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts are

> sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all and

> just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

swelling

> is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

belongs

> to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

and

> requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

times

> the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am very

> nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

have

> my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its so

> uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

Not

> being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

so

> lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

>

> On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

night

> (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

went

> pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

and

> around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

that

> I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet correctly

> for the first time ever.

>

> I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

to

> this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

shut?

> Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

if

> it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such an

> optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

the

> opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

in

> this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going through.

> Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> would be appreciated!

> -Colleen

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Colleen-

First, do not apologize for the negative. You just had a major

surgery six days ago and are feeling its effects. I am 12 days post-

op and a week ago I was feeling similar things to you. IT WILL GET

BETTER. You are not a whiner. It is painful and annoying and even

unbearable at times. Just try and remember why you had this surgery

and that the recovery will be short lived.

My throat finally quite hurting on about day 9 or 10. That was a

big hurdle for me. The congestion is still lingering, but my doc

said to take Robitussin (plain) every few hours and that seems to

really help.

I haven't sneezed, but I did throw up a few times on day 2 and 3.

How awful! But, I haven't done that again. I think all the mucus

and tightness contributed to it.

Most of the bruising is gone except for a few stubborn ones. The

swelling has really lessened. I still have lots of numbness, and I

STILL take pain meds to sleep at night.

So, you are not a baby. And, it doesn't hurt to get your feelings

out, especially when they are normal. My heart goes out to you.

Keep your chin up and I'll be thinking and praying for you.

Casey

>

> Hi all,

> I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS brought

> down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed to

> have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

of

> surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school and

> have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

awful

> it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. "

I

> was actually looking forward to some down time because I have been

> so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

that

> its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and

I

> feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

who

> have been there...

>

> Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine and

> thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

my

> body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

with

> a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts are

> sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all and

> just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

swelling

> is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

belongs

> to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

and

> requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

times

> the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am very

> nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

have

> my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its so

> uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

Not

> being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

so

> lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

>

> On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

night

> (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

went

> pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

and

> around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

that

> I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet correctly

> for the first time ever.

>

> I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

to

> this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

shut?

> Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

if

> it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such an

> optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

the

> opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

in

> this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going through.

> Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> would be appreciated!

> -Colleen

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Colleen-

First, do not apologize for the negative. You just had a major

surgery six days ago and are feeling its effects. I am 12 days post-

op and a week ago I was feeling similar things to you. IT WILL GET

BETTER. You are not a whiner. It is painful and annoying and even

unbearable at times. Just try and remember why you had this surgery

and that the recovery will be short lived.

My throat finally quite hurting on about day 9 or 10. That was a

big hurdle for me. The congestion is still lingering, but my doc

said to take Robitussin (plain) every few hours and that seems to

really help.

I haven't sneezed, but I did throw up a few times on day 2 and 3.

How awful! But, I haven't done that again. I think all the mucus

and tightness contributed to it.

Most of the bruising is gone except for a few stubborn ones. The

swelling has really lessened. I still have lots of numbness, and I

STILL take pain meds to sleep at night.

So, you are not a baby. And, it doesn't hurt to get your feelings

out, especially when they are normal. My heart goes out to you.

Keep your chin up and I'll be thinking and praying for you.

Casey

>

> Hi all,

> I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS brought

> down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed to

> have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

of

> surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school and

> have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

awful

> it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. "

I

> was actually looking forward to some down time because I have been

> so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

that

> its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and

I

> feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

who

> have been there...

>

> Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine and

> thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

my

> body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

with

> a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts are

> sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all and

> just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

swelling

> is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

belongs

> to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

and

> requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

times

> the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am very

> nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

have

> my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its so

> uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

Not

> being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

so

> lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

>

> On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

night

> (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

went

> pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

and

> around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

that

> I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet correctly

> for the first time ever.

>

> I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

to

> this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

shut?

> Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

if

> it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such an

> optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

the

> opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

in

> this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going through.

> Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> would be appreciated!

> -Colleen

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Dear Colleen,

Well, i can sympathise because i am 2 weeks today after

upper/lower.genio. and i am wired shut like you. I was very positive

going in and incredibly well prepared but the shift from the abstract

concept to the reality inevitably hit me.

a few points of reassurance

1. the difference in my appearance between first and second week is

dramatic

2. I have sneezed and survived. I do make people wash their hands

when they come visit because i don't want a cold. I was worried about

something that looked like a watery nosebleed but my OS said it's

just the body cleansing itself of old blood.

3. Not speaking sucks. But you have to keep trying and people need to

- feed back what they think you have said

- have patience

4. EAT. Because having lived with this now for 14 days I can see a

direct equation between eating and mood/feeling better etc. I hate

the process of eating; it takes me a long time to clean up. at the

moment i can't get anything other than fairly thin liquid down. But

you/we HAVE to put in the effort here. the body needs calories and

protein to heal. I have even gone back to Ensure to up the intake.

For me, the first day I felt human and normal (after like you days

when I could not relate to the image in the mirror) was yesterday.

Good luck with it.

- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " colleen_pm "

<colleen_pm@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS brought

> down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed to

> have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning of

> surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school and

> have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

awful

> it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. " I

> was actually looking forward to some down time because I have been

> so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

that

> its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and I

> feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those who

> have been there...

>

> Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine and

> thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

my

> body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

with

> a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts are

> sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all and

> just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

swelling

> is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

belongs

> to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

and

> requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three times

> the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am very

> nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

have

> my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its so

> uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

Not

> being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

so

> lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

>

> On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last night

> (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that went

> pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

and

> around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know that

> I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet correctly

> for the first time ever.

>

> I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in to

> this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired shut?

> Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know if

> it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such an

> optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

the

> opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone in

> this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going through.

> Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> would be appreciated!

> -Colleen

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Dear Colleen,

Well, i can sympathise because i am 2 weeks today after

upper/lower.genio. and i am wired shut like you. I was very positive

going in and incredibly well prepared but the shift from the abstract

concept to the reality inevitably hit me.

a few points of reassurance

1. the difference in my appearance between first and second week is

dramatic

2. I have sneezed and survived. I do make people wash their hands

when they come visit because i don't want a cold. I was worried about

something that looked like a watery nosebleed but my OS said it's

just the body cleansing itself of old blood.

3. Not speaking sucks. But you have to keep trying and people need to

- feed back what they think you have said

- have patience

4. EAT. Because having lived with this now for 14 days I can see a

direct equation between eating and mood/feeling better etc. I hate

the process of eating; it takes me a long time to clean up. at the

moment i can't get anything other than fairly thin liquid down. But

you/we HAVE to put in the effort here. the body needs calories and

protein to heal. I have even gone back to Ensure to up the intake.

For me, the first day I felt human and normal (after like you days

when I could not relate to the image in the mirror) was yesterday.

Good luck with it.

- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " colleen_pm "

<colleen_pm@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS brought

> down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed to

> have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning of

> surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school and

> have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

awful

> it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. " I

> was actually looking forward to some down time because I have been

> so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

that

> its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and I

> feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those who

> have been there...

>

> Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine and

> thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

my

> body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

with

> a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts are

> sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all and

> just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

swelling

> is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

belongs

> to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

and

> requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three times

> the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am very

> nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

have

> my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its so

> uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

Not

> being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

so

> lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

>

> On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last night

> (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that went

> pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

and

> around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know that

> I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet correctly

> for the first time ever.

>

> I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in to

> this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired shut?

> Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know if

> it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such an

> optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

the

> opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone in

> this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going through.

> Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> would be appreciated!

> -Colleen

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The only other advice I wold give you Colleen, from personal

experience, is that I used a mirror to practice drinking from a cup

until I " got it. " It really helped. Now I don't have to use yringes

and I had a coffee in a brunch place with friends yesterday. early

on, the food went everywhere but I carried on.

Bethanne, Good luck with the wires etc. I feel envious! Will you post

and tell me what it's like to get the wires off. as that is THE

milestone ahead, I am getting anxious about what it will be like. Can

anyone else describe?

D

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

> of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. "

> I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and

> I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

> to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

> if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

> in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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The only other advice I wold give you Colleen, from personal

experience, is that I used a mirror to practice drinking from a cup

until I " got it. " It really helped. Now I don't have to use yringes

and I had a coffee in a brunch place with friends yesterday. early

on, the food went everywhere but I carried on.

Bethanne, Good luck with the wires etc. I feel envious! Will you post

and tell me what it's like to get the wires off. as that is THE

milestone ahead, I am getting anxious about what it will be like. Can

anyone else describe?

D

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across). The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

> of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less pain. "

> I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice and

> I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side. Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

> to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

> if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

> in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I'm so glad that you " vented " here. I've found myself feeling better

from just reading other people's posts and knowing that I'm not

alone in the process. If you aren't keeping a diary, I would suggest

trying it. It helps me clarify my feelings & thoughts. Eating and

drinking is so hard but so important. And the milestones are so

worth it: drinking thickeer liquids, chewing soft food, etc. Gives

ya something to look forward to! As for relaxing your jaw muscles,

try moist heat. That has really helped me and it just feels so good.

Yes, I've sneezed with the bands and it was a scary moment but

nothing bad happened. Try to blow the force of your sneeze out

through your mouth and have a tissue ready because it can be a

little messy.

Good luck and come back to vent whenever you need to. That's what

this site if for.

Bethanne,

I had my surgery on Nov. 5th also! I hope the procedure to have your

wires removed went well. Hopefully, it will be easier for you to eat

now and it will make you feel better. Best of Luck!

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> > of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for

9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. "

> > I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and

> > I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

those

> > who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> > times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but

I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> > night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> > went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> > that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> > to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> > shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> > if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

so I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> > in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I'm so glad that you " vented " here. I've found myself feeling better

from just reading other people's posts and knowing that I'm not

alone in the process. If you aren't keeping a diary, I would suggest

trying it. It helps me clarify my feelings & thoughts. Eating and

drinking is so hard but so important. And the milestones are so

worth it: drinking thickeer liquids, chewing soft food, etc. Gives

ya something to look forward to! As for relaxing your jaw muscles,

try moist heat. That has really helped me and it just feels so good.

Yes, I've sneezed with the bands and it was a scary moment but

nothing bad happened. Try to blow the force of your sneeze out

through your mouth and have a tissue ready because it can be a

little messy.

Good luck and come back to vent whenever you need to. That's what

this site if for.

Bethanne,

I had my surgery on Nov. 5th also! I hope the procedure to have your

wires removed went well. Hopefully, it will be easier for you to eat

now and it will make you feel better. Best of Luck!

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> > of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for

9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. "

> > I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and

> > I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

those

> > who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> > times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but

I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> > night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> > went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> > that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> > to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> > shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> > if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

so I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> > in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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Bethanne -

You must be so excited to get the wires off! Thank you for being so

honest and admitting that you hate being wired - it makes me feel

much more normal! I can't imagine how tough it must be with two

young children, I have two dogs and even being left alone with them

seems like such a chore! I know exactly what you mean about being a

hermit. Several friends have asked to come over but so far I haven't

felt like seeing them yet. Definitely this week though. I've missed

all the Christmas parties so far, but I've got plenty more

Christmases, right? Anyway, thanks so much for your post and good

luck on Wednesday!!

-Colleen

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

> of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. "

> I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and

> I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

> to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

> if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

> in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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Bethanne -

You must be so excited to get the wires off! Thank you for being so

honest and admitting that you hate being wired - it makes me feel

much more normal! I can't imagine how tough it must be with two

young children, I have two dogs and even being left alone with them

seems like such a chore! I know exactly what you mean about being a

hermit. Several friends have asked to come over but so far I haven't

felt like seeing them yet. Definitely this week though. I've missed

all the Christmas parties so far, but I've got plenty more

Christmases, right? Anyway, thanks so much for your post and good

luck on Wednesday!!

-Colleen

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

> of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. "

> I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and

> I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

> to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

> if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

> in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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Hi Casey - I was so glad to read that your throat hurt for a while

too. That sounds horrible, but I'm sure you know what I mean. I

thought I was being melodramatic about it, but it makes eating even

more difficult! Knowing it may be another three or four more days,

at least that's something to aim for. Its nice to know there is

someone one week ahead of me and that you felt the same a week ago -

thanks so much! I am looking forward to the swelling decreasing in

the next week. Thanks for your kind thoughts and best of luck in

your third week!

-Colleen

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

> of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. "

> I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and

> I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

> to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

> if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

> in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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Hi Casey - I was so glad to read that your throat hurt for a while

too. That sounds horrible, but I'm sure you know what I mean. I

thought I was being melodramatic about it, but it makes eating even

more difficult! Knowing it may be another three or four more days,

at least that's something to aim for. Its nice to know there is

someone one week ahead of me and that you felt the same a week ago -

thanks so much! I am looking forward to the swelling decreasing in

the next week. Thanks for your kind thoughts and best of luck in

your third week!

-Colleen

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

> of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. "

> I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and

> I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

> to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

> if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

> in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I work part time at a gymnastics club. I was an instructor, but

this year I am working the office, it is easier with my schedule.

So, right before the surgery, I told them, Oh, I will probably be

out a week! well, Ihave not gone in yet (except to say hello). I

really can't because I answer the phones, and any questions people

have when they come in. Granted, most everyone there, even the

moms, knew I was having this done for the past 2 years, but I went

in one day to say hi, and I was stuck there for 2 hours, and It was

just a nightmare! So, that being said, getting out has been tough.

I find that my face hurts when I am out trying to socialize. I

don't know if that is strange or not, but let's see what happens

this week and next, and hopefully, after the holiday break I will be

back at work, and back taking my kids to their own classes!!! (My

mom had been helping me, and has been taking my daughter to dance

class, because I did not want to deal with sitting with the other

moms) Again, I will post on Wednesday, after I come home and make

cream of wheat!!!!

---B.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

> The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> > of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for

9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

> the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. "

> > I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

> and

> > I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

> of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

those

> > who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

> in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> > times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but

I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> > night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> > went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> > that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> > to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> > shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> > if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

so

> I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> > in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I work part time at a gymnastics club. I was an instructor, but

this year I am working the office, it is easier with my schedule.

So, right before the surgery, I told them, Oh, I will probably be

out a week! well, Ihave not gone in yet (except to say hello). I

really can't because I answer the phones, and any questions people

have when they come in. Granted, most everyone there, even the

moms, knew I was having this done for the past 2 years, but I went

in one day to say hi, and I was stuck there for 2 hours, and It was

just a nightmare! So, that being said, getting out has been tough.

I find that my face hurts when I am out trying to socialize. I

don't know if that is strange or not, but let's see what happens

this week and next, and hopefully, after the holiday break I will be

back at work, and back taking my kids to their own classes!!! (My

mom had been helping me, and has been taking my daughter to dance

class, because I did not want to deal with sitting with the other

moms) Again, I will post on Wednesday, after I come home and make

cream of wheat!!!!

---B.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

> The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> > of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for

9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

> the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. "

> > I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

> and

> > I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

> of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

those

> > who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

> in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> > times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but

I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> > night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> > went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> > that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> > to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> > shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> > if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

so

> I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> > in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I work part time at a gymnastics club. I was an instructor, but

this year I am working the office, it is easier with my schedule.

So, right before the surgery, I told them, Oh, I will probably be

out a week! well, Ihave not gone in yet (except to say hello). I

really can't because I answer the phones, and any questions people

have when they come in. Granted, most everyone there, even the

moms, knew I was having this done for the past 2 years, but I went

in one day to say hi, and I was stuck there for 2 hours, and It was

just a nightmare! So, that being said, getting out has been tough.

I find that my face hurts when I am out trying to socialize. I

don't know if that is strange or not, but let's see what happens

this week and next, and hopefully, after the holiday break I will be

back at work, and back taking my kids to their own classes!!! (My

mom had been helping me, and has been taking my daughter to dance

class, because I did not want to deal with sitting with the other

moms) Again, I will post on Wednesday, after I come home and make

cream of wheat!!!!

---B.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

> The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> > of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for

9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

> the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. "

> > I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

> and

> > I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

> of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

those

> > who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

> in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> > times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but

I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> > night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> > went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> > that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> > to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> > shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> > if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

so

> I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> > in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I work part time at a gymnastics club. I was an instructor, but

this year I am working the office, it is easier with my schedule.

So, right before the surgery, I told them, Oh, I will probably be

out a week! well, Ihave not gone in yet (except to say hello). I

really can't because I answer the phones, and any questions people

have when they come in. Granted, most everyone there, even the

moms, knew I was having this done for the past 2 years, but I went

in one day to say hi, and I was stuck there for 2 hours, and It was

just a nightmare! So, that being said, getting out has been tough.

I find that my face hurts when I am out trying to socialize. I

don't know if that is strange or not, but let's see what happens

this week and next, and hopefully, after the holiday break I will be

back at work, and back taking my kids to their own classes!!! (My

mom had been helping me, and has been taking my daughter to dance

class, because I did not want to deal with sitting with the other

moms) Again, I will post on Wednesday, after I come home and make

cream of wheat!!!!

---B.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

> The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> > of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for

9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

> the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. "

> > I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

> and

> > I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

> of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

those

> > who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

> in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> > times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but

I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> > night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> > went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> > that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> > to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> > shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> > if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

so

> I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> > in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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- You don't know how glad I am to hear that you sneezed and

survived it! For some reason that has become a major concern for me.

And now I feel like it won't be that big of a deal if it happens. I

think you totally hit it on the head that its the shift from the

concept to the reality that's hard to deal with. I have a question

for you about the way you're wired shut. Right now I can have only

completely liquid things (even the teeny-tiniest pieces of chicken

in cream of chicken soup get caught in the wires and then I can't

get anything else past). There is an opening in the wires near the

gumline in the back of my mouth, and I'm supposed to be able to use

a syringe in that hole to get slightly larger things down. Because

my mouth is so swollen right now, my cheeks have collapsed in on the

wires and I can't even find the hole. My OS said this is to be

expected and I should be able to find it once the swelling goes

down. Is yours like this too? If so, when did you start using the

opening? I do fairly well with breakfast and lunch (Ensure, yogurt

or rice cereal) but dinner seems to be near impossible - have you

discovered a soup or anything else sort of dinner-y that doesn't

take an hour to get down while picking pieces out of the wires? Not

to be gross but so far I think I have burned all my calories from

soup just in the process of eating it! Well, thanks again for your

advice and reassurance that week 2 is much better than week 1 - I am

ready for week 2! Good luck in your week 3!

-Colleen

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. " I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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- You don't know how glad I am to hear that you sneezed and

survived it! For some reason that has become a major concern for me.

And now I feel like it won't be that big of a deal if it happens. I

think you totally hit it on the head that its the shift from the

concept to the reality that's hard to deal with. I have a question

for you about the way you're wired shut. Right now I can have only

completely liquid things (even the teeny-tiniest pieces of chicken

in cream of chicken soup get caught in the wires and then I can't

get anything else past). There is an opening in the wires near the

gumline in the back of my mouth, and I'm supposed to be able to use

a syringe in that hole to get slightly larger things down. Because

my mouth is so swollen right now, my cheeks have collapsed in on the

wires and I can't even find the hole. My OS said this is to be

expected and I should be able to find it once the swelling goes

down. Is yours like this too? If so, when did you start using the

opening? I do fairly well with breakfast and lunch (Ensure, yogurt

or rice cereal) but dinner seems to be near impossible - have you

discovered a soup or anything else sort of dinner-y that doesn't

take an hour to get down while picking pieces out of the wires? Not

to be gross but so far I think I have burned all my calories from

soup just in the process of eating it! Well, thanks again for your

advice and reassurance that week 2 is much better than week 1 - I am

ready for week 2! Good luck in your week 3!

-Colleen

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

finally

> > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

brought

> > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

The

> > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

to

> > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the morning

of

> > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have this

> > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

and

> > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> awful

> > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

the

> > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

pain. " I

> > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

been

> > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> that

> > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

and I

> > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

of

> > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

who

> > have been there...

> >

> > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

and

> > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

eyes

> > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

Whenever

> my

> > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> with

> > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

are

> > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

and

> > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> swelling

> > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

in

> > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> belongs

> > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a chore

> and

> > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from the

> > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

times

> > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

very

> > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> have

> > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

so

> > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the time.

> Not

> > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

feel

> so

> > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> >

> > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

night

> > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

went

> > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been up

> and

> > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

that

> > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

correctly

> > for the first time ever.

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going in

to

> > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

shut?

> > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't know

if

> > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it seems

> > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

I

> > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

an

> > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with being

> the

> > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative tone

in

> > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

through.

> > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

written

> > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

advice

> > would be appreciated!

> > -Colleen

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- Thanks for the great tip about the moist heat for the jaw

muscles. Will this interfere with decreasing the swelling at all? I

definitely do not want to accidentally do anything to aggravate the

swelling. I will definitely give it a try. Thanks also for the

sneezing advice, I will definitely keep it in mind, I feel prepared

now if this ever-building-sneeze will finally come out!! I am so

glad to have this site to write all this to instead of burdening my

family and friends who are trying their absolute hardest to be

understanding but just can't fully " get it " . Its very nice to have

this outlet instead. Thanks for all the support, I am already

feeling much better than I did when I posted the message this

morning!

-Colleen

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> > brought

> > > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight

across).

> The

> > > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

> supposed

> > to

> > > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

> morning

> > > of

> > > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

> this

> > > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces

for

> 9

> > > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

> and

> > > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad

school

> > and

> > > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me

how

> > > awful

> > > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks

and

> the

> > > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. "

> > > I

> > > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I

have

> > been

> > > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

> now

> > > that

> > > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own

advice

> and

> > > I

> > > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for

all

> of

> > > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

> those

> > > who

> > > > have been there...

> > > >

> > > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain

medicine

> > and

> > > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

> that

> > > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > > my

> > > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

> up

> > > with

> > > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb,

parts

> > are

> > > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at

all

> > and

> > > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > > swelling

> > > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-

green

> > > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally

look

> in

> > > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > > belongs

> > > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

> chore

> > > and

> > > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

> the

> > > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up

three

> > > times

> > > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I

am

> > very

> > > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

> to

> > > have

> > > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

> its

> > so

> > > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

> time.

> > > Not

> > > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > > so

> > > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day,

but

> I

> > > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > > >

> > > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time

last

> > > night

> > > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and

that

> > > went

> > > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've

been

> up

> > > and

> > > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I

know

> > > that

> > > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

> and

> > > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> > correctly

> > > > for the first time ever.

> > > >

> > > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook

going

> in

> > > to

> > > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

> Does

> > > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are

wired

> > > shut?

> > > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

> sneeze

> > > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

> know

> > > if

> > > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

> seems

> > > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

> so I

> > > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

> such

> > an

> > > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

> being

> > > the

> > > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

> tone

> > > in

> > > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

> than

> > > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> > through.

> > > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > > would be appreciated!

> > > > -Colleen

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- Thanks for the great tip about the moist heat for the jaw

muscles. Will this interfere with decreasing the swelling at all? I

definitely do not want to accidentally do anything to aggravate the

swelling. I will definitely give it a try. Thanks also for the

sneezing advice, I will definitely keep it in mind, I feel prepared

now if this ever-building-sneeze will finally come out!! I am so

glad to have this site to write all this to instead of burdening my

family and friends who are trying their absolute hardest to be

understanding but just can't fully " get it " . Its very nice to have

this outlet instead. Thanks for all the support, I am already

feeling much better than I did when I posted the message this

morning!

-Colleen

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> > brought

> > > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight

across).

> The

> > > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

> supposed

> > to

> > > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

> morning

> > > of

> > > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

> this

> > > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces

for

> 9

> > > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

> and

> > > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad

school

> > and

> > > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me

how

> > > awful

> > > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks

and

> the

> > > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. "

> > > I

> > > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I

have

> > been

> > > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

> now

> > > that

> > > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own

advice

> and

> > > I

> > > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for

all

> of

> > > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

> those

> > > who

> > > > have been there...

> > > >

> > > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain

medicine

> > and

> > > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

> that

> > > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > > my

> > > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end

> up

> > > with

> > > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb,

parts

> > are

> > > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at

all

> > and

> > > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > > swelling

> > > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-

green

> > > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally

look

> in

> > > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > > belongs

> > > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

> chore

> > > and

> > > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

> the

> > > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up

three

> > > times

> > > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I

am

> > very

> > > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation

> to

> > > have

> > > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

> its

> > so

> > > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

> time.

> > > Not

> > > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > > so

> > > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day,

but

> I

> > > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > > >

> > > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time

last

> > > night

> > > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and

that

> > > went

> > > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've

been

> up

> > > and

> > > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I

know

> > > that

> > > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

> and

> > > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> > correctly

> > > > for the first time ever.

> > > >

> > > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook

going

> in

> > > to

> > > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

> Does

> > > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are

wired

> > > shut?

> > > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

> sneeze

> > > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

> know

> > > if

> > > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

> seems

> > > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting,

> so I

> > > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

> such

> > an

> > > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

> being

> > > the

> > > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

> tone

> > > in

> > > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

> than

> > > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> > through.

> > > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > > would be appreciated!

> > > > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I am still on fairly thin textures. I water things down with chicken

stock if they are savoury, milk if not. but I make sure i still keep

the quantity i.e. I end up drinking more.

I HATED the syringes because I didn't feel human so now I am using a

plastic cup.

My favourite soup is clam chowder (I've just had the frozen lobster

bisque from Fresh Direct and it was great) whizzed in the blender,

strained.

unless I see rapid weight loss i think I might keep the liquids thin.

i had split pea and ham soup and the liquid almost 'set' like cement.

It's difficult enough eating without the complication of picking

stuff out. I try and eat 6 times a day 9with 2 of those 6 being the

dreaded Ensure). Before the surgery, I gotr lots of whey protein

stuff from health food stores but in my experience the instant you

add any of those things, the smoothie/whatever ends up tasting

artificial and I think i might as well have used ensure.

Tomorrow I am going to experiment with

- a cold soup with tuna and avocado

- using ranch dressing because someone told me it has very high

calorific values.

Unless people think otherwoise, I am going to keep on the thin side

of liquids. I reckon as long as you INCREASE total volume when you

dilute, you're OK. Two things make thin liquids more satisfying for me

- temperature. i am making stuff warmer

- spiciness. Worcestershire sauce helps.

Grateful for anyone else's food tips....

D

In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " colleen_pm "

<colleen_pm@y...> wrote:

>

> - You don't know how glad I am to hear that you sneezed and

> survived it! For some reason that has become a major concern for

me.

> And now I feel like it won't be that big of a deal if it happens. I

> think you totally hit it on the head that its the shift from the

> concept to the reality that's hard to deal with. I have a question

> for you about the way you're wired shut. Right now I can have only

> completely liquid things (even the teeny-tiniest pieces of chicken

> in cream of chicken soup get caught in the wires and then I can't

> get anything else past). There is an opening in the wires near the

> gumline in the back of my mouth, and I'm supposed to be able to use

> a syringe in that hole to get slightly larger things down. Because

> my mouth is so swollen right now, my cheeks have collapsed in on

the

> wires and I can't even find the hole. My OS said this is to be

> expected and I should be able to find it once the swelling goes

> down. Is yours like this too? If so, when did you start using the

> opening? I do fairly well with breakfast and lunch (Ensure, yogurt

> or rice cereal) but dinner seems to be near impossible - have you

> discovered a soup or anything else sort of dinner-y that doesn't

> take an hour to get down while picking pieces out of the wires? Not

> to be gross but so far I think I have burned all my calories from

> soup just in the process of eating it! Well, thanks again for your

> advice and reassurance that week 2 is much better than week 1 - I

am

> ready for week 2! Good luck in your week 3!

> -Colleen

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

> The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

> the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. " I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

> and I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

> of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

> in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

> I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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Colleen,

I am still on fairly thin textures. I water things down with chicken

stock if they are savoury, milk if not. but I make sure i still keep

the quantity i.e. I end up drinking more.

I HATED the syringes because I didn't feel human so now I am using a

plastic cup.

My favourite soup is clam chowder (I've just had the frozen lobster

bisque from Fresh Direct and it was great) whizzed in the blender,

strained.

unless I see rapid weight loss i think I might keep the liquids thin.

i had split pea and ham soup and the liquid almost 'set' like cement.

It's difficult enough eating without the complication of picking

stuff out. I try and eat 6 times a day 9with 2 of those 6 being the

dreaded Ensure). Before the surgery, I gotr lots of whey protein

stuff from health food stores but in my experience the instant you

add any of those things, the smoothie/whatever ends up tasting

artificial and I think i might as well have used ensure.

Tomorrow I am going to experiment with

- a cold soup with tuna and avocado

- using ranch dressing because someone told me it has very high

calorific values.

Unless people think otherwoise, I am going to keep on the thin side

of liquids. I reckon as long as you INCREASE total volume when you

dilute, you're OK. Two things make thin liquids more satisfying for me

- temperature. i am making stuff warmer

- spiciness. Worcestershire sauce helps.

Grateful for anyone else's food tips....

D

In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " colleen_pm "

<colleen_pm@y...> wrote:

>

> - You don't know how glad I am to hear that you sneezed and

> survived it! For some reason that has become a major concern for

me.

> And now I feel like it won't be that big of a deal if it happens. I

> think you totally hit it on the head that its the shift from the

> concept to the reality that's hard to deal with. I have a question

> for you about the way you're wired shut. Right now I can have only

> completely liquid things (even the teeny-tiniest pieces of chicken

> in cream of chicken soup get caught in the wires and then I can't

> get anything else past). There is an opening in the wires near the

> gumline in the back of my mouth, and I'm supposed to be able to use

> a syringe in that hole to get slightly larger things down. Because

> my mouth is so swollen right now, my cheeks have collapsed in on

the

> wires and I can't even find the hole. My OS said this is to be

> expected and I should be able to find it once the swelling goes

> down. Is yours like this too? If so, when did you start using the

> opening? I do fairly well with breakfast and lunch (Ensure, yogurt

> or rice cereal) but dinner seems to be near impossible - have you

> discovered a soup or anything else sort of dinner-y that doesn't

> take an hour to get down while picking pieces out of the wires? Not

> to be gross but so far I think I have burned all my calories from

> soup just in the process of eating it! Well, thanks again for your

> advice and reassurance that week 2 is much better than week 1 - I

am

> ready for week 2! Good luck in your week 3!

> -Colleen

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> finally

> > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw reduced

> > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> brought

> > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight across).

> The

> > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was supposed

> to

> > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

morning

> of

> > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

this

> > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces for 9

> > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready and

> > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad school

> and

> > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me how

> > awful

> > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks and

> the

> > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> pain. " I

> > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I have

> been

> > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well, now

> > that

> > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own advice

> and I

> > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for all

> of

> > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to those

> who

> > > have been there...

> > >

> > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain medicine

> and

> > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under my

> eyes

> > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain that

> > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> Whenever

> > my

> > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still end up

> > with

> > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb, parts

> are

> > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at all

> and

> > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > swelling

> > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-green

> > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally look

> in

> > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that face

> > belongs

> > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

chore

> > and

> > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore from

the

> > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up three

> times

> > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I am

> very

> > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange sensation to

> > have

> > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw, its

> so

> > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

time.

> > Not

> > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and I

> feel

> > so

> > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day, but I

> > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > >

> > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time last

> night

> > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and that

> went

> > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've been

up

> > and

> > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I know

> that

> > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said and

> > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> correctly

> > > for the first time ever.

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook going

in

> to

> > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was? Does

> > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are wired

> shut?

> > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a sneeze

> > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

know

> if

> > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

seems

> > > like the recovery is easier than most people were expecting, so

> I

> > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually such

> an

> > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

being

> > the

> > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

tone

> in

> > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys than

> > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> through.

> > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> written

> > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> advice

> > > would be appreciated!

> > > -Colleen

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I saw my OS today. He emphasised 's point about heat

- being great

- being MOIST not dry.

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> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > I posted to this site a few times before my surgery and I

> > finally

> > > > > had it last Tuesday, December 14. I had my lower jaw

reduced

> > > > > (osteotomy)and LeFort on my upper jaw (it was tipped so OS

> > > brought

> > > > > down the right side so that my upper jaw is straight

> across).

> > The

> > > > > surgery was outpatient and the OS said that everything went

> > > > > beautifully and couldn't have gone better. Surgery was

> > supposed

> > > to

> > > > > have taken 3 1/2 hours, and only took 2. I felt good the

> > morning

> > > > of

> > > > > surgery, not too nervous and I was completely ready to have

> > this

> > > > > surgery (I've been planning on it for 5 years now, braces

> for

> > 9

> > > > > months) and was just ready to get it over with. I was ready

> > and

> > > > > prepared to be wired shut-its my winter break from grad

> school

> > > and

> > > > > have four weeks off from my job. When people would tell me

> how

> > > > awful

> > > > > it sounded, I'd just reply " oh well, its just a few weeks

> and

> > the

> > > > > rest of my life will be that much better with so much less

> > pain. "

> > > > I

> > > > > was actually looking forward to some down time because I

> have

> > > been

> > > > > so busy for so many months now with no breaks at all. Well,

> > now

> > > > that

> > > > > its time for recovery I don't seem to be taking my own

> advice

> > and

> > > > I

> > > > > feel a lot worse than I thought I would! Unfortunately for

> all

> > of

> > > > > you reading this, I am taking this opportunity to vent to

> > those

> > > > who

> > > > > have been there...

> > > > >

> > > > > Where should I start? For one, I am still taking pain

> medicine

> > > and

> > > > > thought I wouldn't need it by now. Pretty much from under

my

> > eyes

> > > > > and down hurts. There are times when I have a searing pain

> > that

> > > > > feels like a stabbing in the jaw joint on the left side.

> > Whenever

> > > > my

> > > > > body tries to yawn, I try to make it go away but I still

end

> > up

> > > > with

> > > > > a shooting pain on that side. Parts of my face are numb,

> parts

> > > are

> > > > > sore, my skin seems to be peeling, I can't feel my nose at

> all

> > > and

> > > > > just can not beleive how fat and swollen my face looks. The

> > > > swelling

> > > > > is just huge and I feel like I'm carrying a giant yellow-

> green

> > > > > bowling ball around on my body. Every time I accidentally

> look

> > in

> > > > > the mirror (something I try to avoid) I am shocked that

face

> > > > belongs

> > > > > to me. Because my jaw is wired shut, eating is just such a

> > chore

> > > > and

> > > > > requires so much effort. My throat is still really sore

from

> > the

> > > > > breathing tube and I am extremely congested. I threw up

> three

> > > > times

> > > > > the second day after surgery and it was so horrible that I

> am

> > > very

> > > > > nervous it will happen again. It is such a strange

sensation

> > to

> > > > have

> > > > > my jaw wired shut and I hate that I can never relax my jaw,

> > its

> > > so

> > > > > uncomfortable with the muscles so tightly clenched all the

> > time.

> > > > Not

> > > > > being able to talk well is worse than I was expecting, and

I

> > feel

> > > > so

> > > > > lazy just sitting around watching TV and napping all day,

> but

> > I

> > > > > don't feel like I have the energy to do anything else.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the bright side, I slept in my bed for the first time

> last

> > > > night

> > > > > (I've been sleeping on a reclining chair on the sofa) and

> that

> > > > went

> > > > > pretty well, and this is actually the first morning I've

> been

> > up

> > > > and

> > > > > around before 9:00 am, so I guess I am making progress. I

> know

> > > > that

> > > > > I will be extremely happy with the results when all is said

> > and

> > > > > done, I can see how good my teeth look and my teeth meet

> > > correctly

> > > > > for the first time ever.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am wondering if anyone else had a very bright outlook

> going

> > in

> > > > to

> > > > > this and then were suprised how difficult it actually was?

> > Does

> > > > > anyone have any tips for relaxing your jaw when you are

> wired

> > > > shut?

> > > > > Has anyone sneezed with their jaw wired shut? I've had a

> > sneeze

> > > > > coming for days now and I keep willing it away, but I don't

> > know

> > > > if

> > > > > it will stay away forever. From reading all these posts it

> > seems

> > > > > like the recovery is easier than most people were

expecting,

> > so I

> > > > > feel like I'm being the world's biggest baby. I am usually

> > such

> > > an

> > > > > optimistic, upbeat, active person and I am struggling with

> > being

> > > > the

> > > > > opposite right now. Anyway, I do apologize for the negative

> > tone

> > > > in

> > > > > this post, it is unlike me but I'd rather vent to you guys

> > than

> > > > > those around me who can't fully understand what I'm going

> > > through.

> > > > > Oddly enough, I am already feeling a little better having

> > written

> > > > > this. Anyway, thanks for your time in reading this and any

> > advice

> > > > > would be appreciated!

> > > > > -Colleen

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