Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and you're willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more bone mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . It was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires further information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and you're willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more bone mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . It was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires further information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hi, I guess I am the one following your the most closely since I also deal with only genio rather than the rest of the jaw operations. I finished the genio yesterday. I dont feel much numbnmess and the worst thing was the swalow my own saliva, it was hurting for a while in the night. I am slightly swollen, not much. My question if you know is if what I see is what I get? They did the same procedure as yours, sliding genioplasty with about 5 mm forward and 2 mm down. I didnt need that much I think. However, when I look at it today it seems it is disappointment as it still seems short if both vertical and horizontal dimension. I will see the surgeon again and ask, but from your experience, will the bone formation over the followign few weeks give more " definition " or am I stuck with the possibility of repeating for more movement? I was practising on my own sliding the jaw forward about 5-6 mm before the operation and it seems OK, so I didnt feel I need more. But now it is done it seems deficient still. Any thoughts appreciated. > > Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent > genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from > " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having > two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete > expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I > have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and you're > willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more bone > mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your > ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm > using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . It > was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, > the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be > expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every > day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 > days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large > advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires further > information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or > chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please > feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics > in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hi, I guess I am the one following your the most closely since I also deal with only genio rather than the rest of the jaw operations. I finished the genio yesterday. I dont feel much numbnmess and the worst thing was the swalow my own saliva, it was hurting for a while in the night. I am slightly swollen, not much. My question if you know is if what I see is what I get? They did the same procedure as yours, sliding genioplasty with about 5 mm forward and 2 mm down. I didnt need that much I think. However, when I look at it today it seems it is disappointment as it still seems short if both vertical and horizontal dimension. I will see the surgeon again and ask, but from your experience, will the bone formation over the followign few weeks give more " definition " or am I stuck with the possibility of repeating for more movement? I was practising on my own sliding the jaw forward about 5-6 mm before the operation and it seems OK, so I didnt feel I need more. But now it is done it seems deficient still. Any thoughts appreciated. > > Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent > genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from > " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having > two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete > expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I > have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and you're > willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more bone > mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your > ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm > using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . It > was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, > the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be > expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every > day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 > days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large > advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires further > information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or > chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please > feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics > in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 > I'm sure it will > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > foundation congrats on your procedure... How long do you think it will take to adapt? will your facial structure change as your mentalis muscle adapts? my sugeron told me that my facial muscles need to adjust into the new position and it will change my ultimate look - although not significantly... maybe i misunderstood him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 > I'm sure it will > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > foundation congrats on your procedure... How long do you think it will take to adapt? will your facial structure change as your mentalis muscle adapts? my sugeron told me that my facial muscles need to adjust into the new position and it will change my ultimate look - although not significantly... maybe i misunderstood him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 I will be a bearer of both good news and bad news. Let's start with the bad. As a definite genioplasty (and jaw surgery I'll add) veteran with this being the second genio, I hate to tell you that what you see right now as far as projection is actually more than likely " swelling enhanced " and when it all settles down, you will see less change. That was the disappointment I endured after my first jaw surgery and genioplasty. I was relatively happy until the swelling all went away, and then the results were lackluster to say the least. The swelling from this operation is fading fast, but this time it is not a negative situation. With the swelling I was honestly in the " plus " department with a small degree of projection beyond the standard reference datum for the tip of the chin to line up directly under the tip of the lower lip, also since lips can vary a lot, another reference line is to be vertically below the mid point of the downward diagonal line of the nose. Now the better news, if you seek further correction, once you are healed you will have greater bone mass to work with, but you may have to wait quite awhile for that opportunity to arise. I very purposely sought an " aggressive " genioplasty surgeon as I still had a long ways to go and I certainly didn't want to have three genioplasties to do it. Please feel free to ask any further questions or email me directly, I'll help however I can. > > > > Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent > > genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from > > " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having > > two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete > > expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I > > have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and > you're > > willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more > bone > > mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your > > ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm > > using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . > It > > was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, > > the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be > > expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every > > day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 > > days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large > > advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires > further > > information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or > > chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please > > feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics > > in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 I will be a bearer of both good news and bad news. Let's start with the bad. As a definite genioplasty (and jaw surgery I'll add) veteran with this being the second genio, I hate to tell you that what you see right now as far as projection is actually more than likely " swelling enhanced " and when it all settles down, you will see less change. That was the disappointment I endured after my first jaw surgery and genioplasty. I was relatively happy until the swelling all went away, and then the results were lackluster to say the least. The swelling from this operation is fading fast, but this time it is not a negative situation. With the swelling I was honestly in the " plus " department with a small degree of projection beyond the standard reference datum for the tip of the chin to line up directly under the tip of the lower lip, also since lips can vary a lot, another reference line is to be vertically below the mid point of the downward diagonal line of the nose. Now the better news, if you seek further correction, once you are healed you will have greater bone mass to work with, but you may have to wait quite awhile for that opportunity to arise. I very purposely sought an " aggressive " genioplasty surgeon as I still had a long ways to go and I certainly didn't want to have three genioplasties to do it. Please feel free to ask any further questions or email me directly, I'll help however I can. > > > > Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent > > genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from > > " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having > > two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete > > expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I > > have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and > you're > > willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more > bone > > mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your > > ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm > > using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . > It > > was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, > > the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be > > expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every > > day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 > > days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large > > advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires > further > > information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or > > chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please > > feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics > > in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 I would agree with him, your ultimate look will be different. I look a lot different right now, most of it a great improvement, the tight muscle part is currently a bit of a downside, but it is improving every day. > > > > I'm sure it will > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > foundation > > congrats on your procedure... > > How long do you think it will take to adapt? will your facial > structure change as your mentalis muscle adapts? > > my sugeron told me that my facial muscles need to adjust into the > new position and it will change my ultimate look - although not > significantly... maybe i misunderstood him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 I would agree with him, your ultimate look will be different. I look a lot different right now, most of it a great improvement, the tight muscle part is currently a bit of a downside, but it is improving every day. > > > > I'm sure it will > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > foundation > > congrats on your procedure... > > How long do you think it will take to adapt? will your facial > structure change as your mentalis muscle adapts? > > my sugeron told me that my facial muscles need to adjust into the > new position and it will change my ultimate look - although not > significantly... maybe i misunderstood him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 There might be two reply posts on this one, so this might be redundant. My experience with my first genioplasty which was coupled with mandibular advancement was that you will not see " more " later. In fact for me, as the swelling disappated I was increasingly discouraged by the amount of recessiveness that remained. Thus the recent big genio. But as I've mentioned before, I was quite severely recessive and the lack of chin structure was the big contributor to that. So I would not expect to see greater projection, however, there may be some smoothing out of the soft tissue. For now you'll need to let things heal well and if you need further advancement, that should be possible in the future. > > > > Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent > > genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from > > " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having > > two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete > > expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I > > have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and > you're > > willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more > bone > > mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your > > ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm > > using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . > It > > was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, > > the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be > > expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every > > day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 > > days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large > > advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires > further > > information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or > > chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please > > feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics > > in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 There might be two reply posts on this one, so this might be redundant. My experience with my first genioplasty which was coupled with mandibular advancement was that you will not see " more " later. In fact for me, as the swelling disappated I was increasingly discouraged by the amount of recessiveness that remained. Thus the recent big genio. But as I've mentioned before, I was quite severely recessive and the lack of chin structure was the big contributor to that. So I would not expect to see greater projection, however, there may be some smoothing out of the soft tissue. For now you'll need to let things heal well and if you need further advancement, that should be possible in the future. > > > > Just an update for those following my posts regarding my recent > > genioplasty. It is doing very well and I am still amazed that from > > " once upon a time " being roughly 30mm recessive and having > > two rounds of orthodontics, mandibular advancement, pallete > > expansion surgery, genioplasty #1, and now genioplasty #2, I > > have a perfect profile. Yes, if your case is quite severe and > you're > > willing to let your first genioplasty heal up, you'll have more > bone > > mass to work with and can attain full correction if that is your > > ultimate dream. My recent genioplasty was right about 15mm > > using an alternate technique called a " box " or " sliding drawer " . > It > > was a bit rough on the lower lip, but that has healed quite well, > > the skin over the advanced area is a bit tight as would be > > expected, but is becoming more relaxed and natural with every > > day. I had to eat much like after jaw advancement for about 10 > > days, but now I'm pretty much eating normally. I'm sure it will > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > foundation, but overall I would say that for such a large > > advancement, that all is going very well. If anyone desires > further > > information and particularly if you have had previous jaw and/or > > chin advancement but are still significantly recessive, please > > feel free to ask here or email me. I will post some post op pics > > in the next couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 any idea how long it will take for your muscle to adjust or build into their new position??? > > > > > > > I'm sure it will > > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > > foundation > > > > congrats on your procedure... > > > > How long do you think it will take to adapt? will your facial > > structure change as your mentalis muscle adapts? > > > > my sugeron told me that my facial muscles need to adjust into > the > > new position and it will change my ultimate look - although not > > significantly... maybe i misunderstood him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 any idea how long it will take for your muscle to adjust or build into their new position??? > > > > > > > I'm sure it will > > > take some time for the mentalis muscle to adapt to it's new > > > foundation > > > > congrats on your procedure... > > > > How long do you think it will take to adapt? will your facial > > structure change as your mentalis muscle adapts? > > > > my sugeron told me that my facial muscles need to adjust into > the > > new position and it will change my ultimate look - although not > > significantly... maybe i misunderstood him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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