Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Just thought to share a two cent's worth repsonse to someone wanting to know about rapidity of weight loss, but thought it is also good to go re maintaining weight loss. Just understand this about rapidity of weight loss. I've been on grad list (people more than one year out from surgery) with post-op people of many kinds for four years. Scenario 1. 20 people, all similar age, all same gender, all same doc, all same amount bypassed, all same stomach size. They all lose at varying rates. Some lose fast, some slow, some medium. They all lose. hang in there Scenario 2. 10 revisions, all made more distal, all same doc, (RNY) have different rapidity of weight loss; fast, med and slowly. They all lose. Hang in there . Scenario 3. 100 people, of all different ages, all with different kinds of surgery, all different genders (well I guess there are only two, huh? grin). RNY , distal, medial, proximal; fobi pouch, banded, unbanded, DS, VBG, MGB, old stomach stapling. They all have different rates of losing, slow, medium, fast. They all lose. (some, not all, of the men seem to lose faster than the women) Hang in there. Scene 4: 5000 people of all different ages have all different kinds of surgeries. Some don't lose as much as others overall. Some lose more than others overall. There are some of the most common mechanical issues: Is a person distal enough for malabsorbtion to help the process along? Is there a staple line disruption or a fistula that allows more food to be eaten? Has the stoma enlarged so the small intestine is now acting as a 'stomach extension, and the person not feeling full, eats to fill the intestine and the smaller stomach? Is the person's thyroid in medium to high-normal ranges? Is the person moving, exercising, for instance, 10,000 steps a day? (The average desk job is about 70-150 steps a day just for comparison.) Is the person 'eating around the surgery? That is, drinking high calorie beverages or shakes or eating high caloric 'meltable' foods that give too many calories a day to lose weight? Is the person taking any medication that has bloating or weight gain as a side-effect? These are some of the most common psychological issues: Is the person able to distinguish head hunger from stomach hunger? Does the person 'stress eat? Does the person eat so as to become relaxed or sleepy? Does the person eat to 'hide' from themselves or others? Does the person eat to avoid boredom, or eat mindlessly instead of mindfully? Has the person learned about nutrition and amounts and moderation? Some of the food and water issues are: Does the person drink 64 plus oz of water a day? Do they eat adequate protein and in forms their bodies can break down? Do they eat things high in sodium, salt their food? (causes water logging) Also coffee is 'washed' with sodium, and often causes water logging also) Do they take all their supplements in quantity and daily in forms their bodies can break down and use? Do they eat carbohydrates, and if so, what kinds and in what amounts? What is the ratio of carbos to protein? How many calories is the person really taking in per day? These are some of the things that can slow down, stop, and or help and speed up ) according to one's best body reaction) the loss of weight. These are my experiences solely from listening to so many people on grad list over the years. As it is said there by the list leader, everyone's mileage may vary. What I am saying here is that you will lose, you will lose well, you will meet or get very close to your goal if all the above is in order. Patience and easy does it. This comes with love,' ceep g-Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Just thought to share a two cent's worth repsonse to someone wanting to know about rapidity of weight loss, but thought it is also good to go re maintaining weight loss. Just understand this about rapidity of weight loss. I've been on grad list (people more than one year out from surgery) with post-op people of many kinds for four years. Scenario 1. 20 people, all similar age, all same gender, all same doc, all same amount bypassed, all same stomach size. They all lose at varying rates. Some lose fast, some slow, some medium. They all lose. hang in there Scenario 2. 10 revisions, all made more distal, all same doc, (RNY) have different rapidity of weight loss; fast, med and slowly. They all lose. Hang in there . Scenario 3. 100 people, of all different ages, all with different kinds of surgery, all different genders (well I guess there are only two, huh? grin). RNY , distal, medial, proximal; fobi pouch, banded, unbanded, DS, VBG, MGB, old stomach stapling. They all have different rates of losing, slow, medium, fast. They all lose. (some, not all, of the men seem to lose faster than the women) Hang in there. Scene 4: 5000 people of all different ages have all different kinds of surgeries. Some don't lose as much as others overall. Some lose more than others overall. There are some of the most common mechanical issues: Is a person distal enough for malabsorbtion to help the process along? Is there a staple line disruption or a fistula that allows more food to be eaten? Has the stoma enlarged so the small intestine is now acting as a 'stomach extension, and the person not feeling full, eats to fill the intestine and the smaller stomach? Is the person's thyroid in medium to high-normal ranges? Is the person moving, exercising, for instance, 10,000 steps a day? (The average desk job is about 70-150 steps a day just for comparison.) Is the person 'eating around the surgery? That is, drinking high calorie beverages or shakes or eating high caloric 'meltable' foods that give too many calories a day to lose weight? Is the person taking any medication that has bloating or weight gain as a side-effect? These are some of the most common psychological issues: Is the person able to distinguish head hunger from stomach hunger? Does the person 'stress eat? Does the person eat so as to become relaxed or sleepy? Does the person eat to 'hide' from themselves or others? Does the person eat to avoid boredom, or eat mindlessly instead of mindfully? Has the person learned about nutrition and amounts and moderation? Some of the food and water issues are: Does the person drink 64 plus oz of water a day? Do they eat adequate protein and in forms their bodies can break down? Do they eat things high in sodium, salt their food? (causes water logging) Also coffee is 'washed' with sodium, and often causes water logging also) Do they take all their supplements in quantity and daily in forms their bodies can break down and use? Do they eat carbohydrates, and if so, what kinds and in what amounts? What is the ratio of carbos to protein? How many calories is the person really taking in per day? These are some of the things that can slow down, stop, and or help and speed up ) according to one's best body reaction) the loss of weight. These are my experiences solely from listening to so many people on grad list over the years. As it is said there by the list leader, everyone's mileage may vary. What I am saying here is that you will lose, you will lose well, you will meet or get very close to your goal if all the above is in order. Patience and easy does it. This comes with love,' ceep g-Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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