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i have had braces for a while now and have a few white marks

(decalcification). I really dont't feel like I deserve these as I

brush my teeth after every meal.

I had braces once before and am much more diligent with cleaning

them now, but it is now that i get white marks (which are permanent).

AAANNOYINGG!

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i have had braces for a while now and have a few white marks

(decalcification). I really dont't feel like I deserve these as I

brush my teeth after every meal.

I had braces once before and am much more diligent with cleaning

them now, but it is now that i get white marks (which are permanent).

AAANNOYINGG!

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I dont know if it will work, but I am trying it at least on my white

marks. I am using " enamel care " toothpaste from Arm and Hammer which

contains liquid calcium, which supposedly should remineralize the

tooth enamel. There was another toothpaste called enamelon that went

out of business so this is the only one I could find.

I also use trident gum that kind of adds some other ingredients to

help recalcification (Sorbitol, Gum Base, Mannitol, Xylitol etc).

>

> i have had braces for a while now and have a few white marks

> (decalcification). I really dont't feel like I deserve these as I

> brush my teeth after every meal.

> I had braces once before and am much more diligent with cleaning

> them now, but it is now that i get white marks (which are

permanent).

>

> AAANNOYINGG!

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I dont know if it will work, but I am trying it at least on my white

marks. I am using " enamel care " toothpaste from Arm and Hammer which

contains liquid calcium, which supposedly should remineralize the

tooth enamel. There was another toothpaste called enamelon that went

out of business so this is the only one I could find.

I also use trident gum that kind of adds some other ingredients to

help recalcification (Sorbitol, Gum Base, Mannitol, Xylitol etc).

>

> i have had braces for a while now and have a few white marks

> (decalcification). I really dont't feel like I deserve these as I

> brush my teeth after every meal.

> I had braces once before and am much more diligent with cleaning

> them now, but it is now that i get white marks (which are

permanent).

>

> AAANNOYINGG!

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Did you use some sort of flouride based mouthwash? If so that could

be the cause. I also had braces before and became much more diligent

with brushing my teeth. I would brush (after everything i ate),

floss, rinse with listerine, use a water pic, and then use a flouride

rinse. I got a great deal of decalcification and couldn't understand

it because I was so meticulous. I ran out of the flouride mouthwash,

didn't get any more and noticed that I the decalcification stopped.

I also found out that excessive amounts of flouride cause

discoloration of the teeth, as a matter of fact that's how they

discovered it (flouride). A town of people had disproportionate

amounts of citizens with discoloration of their teeth, they also had

disproportionately low levels of cavities. Long story short flouride

is the devil. I won't use it anymore because it's not as safe as

we've been made to believe. Do a little research on it and you'll

know what I mean.

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Did you use some sort of flouride based mouthwash? If so that could

be the cause. I also had braces before and became much more diligent

with brushing my teeth. I would brush (after everything i ate),

floss, rinse with listerine, use a water pic, and then use a flouride

rinse. I got a great deal of decalcification and couldn't understand

it because I was so meticulous. I ran out of the flouride mouthwash,

didn't get any more and noticed that I the decalcification stopped.

I also found out that excessive amounts of flouride cause

discoloration of the teeth, as a matter of fact that's how they

discovered it (flouride). A town of people had disproportionate

amounts of citizens with discoloration of their teeth, they also had

disproportionately low levels of cavities. Long story short flouride

is the devil. I won't use it anymore because it's not as safe as

we've been made to believe. Do a little research on it and you'll

know what I mean.

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So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride always?

>

> Did you use some sort of flouride based mouthwash? If so that could

> be the cause. I also had braces before and became much more

diligent

> with brushing my teeth. I would brush (after everything i ate),

> floss, rinse with listerine, use a water pic, and then use a

flouride

> rinse. I got a great deal of decalcification and couldn't

understand

> it because I was so meticulous. I ran out of the flouride

mouthwash,

> didn't get any more and noticed that I the decalcification

stopped.

> I also found out that excessive amounts of flouride cause

> discoloration of the teeth, as a matter of fact that's how they

> discovered it (flouride). A town of people had disproportionate

> amounts of citizens with discoloration of their teeth, they also

had

> disproportionately low levels of cavities. Long story short

flouride

> is the devil. I won't use it anymore because it's not as safe as

> we've been made to believe. Do a little research on it and you'll

> know what I mean.

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So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride always?

>

> Did you use some sort of flouride based mouthwash? If so that could

> be the cause. I also had braces before and became much more

diligent

> with brushing my teeth. I would brush (after everything i ate),

> floss, rinse with listerine, use a water pic, and then use a

flouride

> rinse. I got a great deal of decalcification and couldn't

understand

> it because I was so meticulous. I ran out of the flouride

mouthwash,

> didn't get any more and noticed that I the decalcification

stopped.

> I also found out that excessive amounts of flouride cause

> discoloration of the teeth, as a matter of fact that's how they

> discovered it (flouride). A town of people had disproportionate

> amounts of citizens with discoloration of their teeth, they also

had

> disproportionately low levels of cavities. Long story short

flouride

> is the devil. I won't use it anymore because it's not as safe as

> we've been made to believe. Do a little research on it and you'll

> know what I mean.

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hey.. yes thats true if ur exposed to so much

flouride, it does causes whitening/ gives " chalky "

appearance. But this mostly happens if your exposed to

so much fluoride (water,toothpaste,topical)from

childhood, during the tooth forming years. toothpastes

have very minimal fluoride content that doesnt really

affect the adults since the tooth has completely

formed. White spots in the tooth could have other

indications.

--- tentominus43 <no_reply > wrote:

>

> So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have

> fluoride always?

>

>

> >

> > Did you use some sort of flouride based mouthwash?

> If so that could

> > be the cause. I also had braces before and became

> much more

> diligent

> > with brushing my teeth. I would brush (after

> everything i ate),

> > floss, rinse with listerine, use a water pic, and

> then use a

> flouride

> > rinse. I got a great deal of decalcification and

> couldn't

> understand

> > it because I was so meticulous. I ran out of the

> flouride

> mouthwash,

> > didn't get any more and noticed that I the

> decalcification

> stopped.

> > I also found out that excessive amounts of

> flouride cause

> > discoloration of the teeth, as a matter of fact

> that's how they

> > discovered it (flouride). A town of people had

> disproportionate

> > amounts of citizens with discoloration of their

> teeth, they also

> had

> > disproportionately low levels of cavities. Long

> story short

> flouride

> > is the devil. I won't use it anymore because it's

> not as safe as

> > we've been made to believe. Do a little research

> on it and you'll

> > know what I mean.

>

>

>

>

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hey.. yes thats true if ur exposed to so much

flouride, it does causes whitening/ gives " chalky "

appearance. But this mostly happens if your exposed to

so much fluoride (water,toothpaste,topical)from

childhood, during the tooth forming years. toothpastes

have very minimal fluoride content that doesnt really

affect the adults since the tooth has completely

formed. White spots in the tooth could have other

indications.

--- tentominus43 <no_reply > wrote:

>

> So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have

> fluoride always?

>

>

> >

> > Did you use some sort of flouride based mouthwash?

> If so that could

> > be the cause. I also had braces before and became

> much more

> diligent

> > with brushing my teeth. I would brush (after

> everything i ate),

> > floss, rinse with listerine, use a water pic, and

> then use a

> flouride

> > rinse. I got a great deal of decalcification and

> couldn't

> understand

> > it because I was so meticulous. I ran out of the

> flouride

> mouthwash,

> > didn't get any more and noticed that I the

> decalcification

> stopped.

> > I also found out that excessive amounts of

> flouride cause

> > discoloration of the teeth, as a matter of fact

> that's how they

> > discovered it (flouride). A town of people had

> disproportionate

> > amounts of citizens with discoloration of their

> teeth, they also

> had

> > disproportionately low levels of cavities. Long

> story short

> flouride

> > is the devil. I won't use it anymore because it's

> not as safe as

> > we've been made to believe. Do a little research

> on it and you'll

> > know what I mean.

>

>

>

>

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> So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride

always?

The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near

impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride intake

(i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our water

supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware they

are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you

have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the

recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty questionable.

I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the

flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our

water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a

mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's own

standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much.

Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery

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> So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride

always?

The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near

impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride intake

(i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our water

supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware they

are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you

have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the

recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty questionable.

I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the

flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our

water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a

mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's own

standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much.

Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery

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