Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much stuck). Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just careless with their words, but in this profession you would think these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, whatever. Thanks so much--Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much stuck). Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just careless with their words, but in this profession you would think these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, whatever. Thanks so much--Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi The first OD that I went to did not have the best bedside manner at all, in fact while I was in his office and lying down in the chair, he held his hand on my forehead and actually used pressure to keep me there.......needless to say I was freaked out. He also told me how my face was crooked, which I thought was just nuts. I was fortunate enough to be able to go to another one and have found him to be awsome. I think the OD's look at us not as people sometimes but as a reflection of their work. They want to do an excellent job and they want us to have a smile as perfect as it can be. My new OD told me that I have a few teeth that have receeding gums which is probably caused by me grinding my teeth and clenching during the night. He wants me to go to a periodontist I think it is called, and have that fixed. When I went to my regular dentist he said that he had seen much worse and didn't think it was necessary. Again I think that the OD wants as close to perfect as he can get. On my consultation with the OS he said nothing about my lower jaw having to be moved, he said that in doing the upper jaw, your lower jaw naturally moves into position to correct the lower one. I told my OD that my major concern was my lower jaw as I look like my lower jaw has been pushed back and that I have no defined chin. My OD told me that we would fix it. As for the OS, I too have only met him once and very briefly at that, but I was told that he can't tell me for sure what is exactally going to happen till right before the surgery as he will perform the surgery on molds of my teeth and jaw etc., to see how it will look and then make adjustments. I am new to this and I hope that I have helped... Take Care Tanja > > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much > stuck). > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi The first OD that I went to did not have the best bedside manner at all, in fact while I was in his office and lying down in the chair, he held his hand on my forehead and actually used pressure to keep me there.......needless to say I was freaked out. He also told me how my face was crooked, which I thought was just nuts. I was fortunate enough to be able to go to another one and have found him to be awsome. I think the OD's look at us not as people sometimes but as a reflection of their work. They want to do an excellent job and they want us to have a smile as perfect as it can be. My new OD told me that I have a few teeth that have receeding gums which is probably caused by me grinding my teeth and clenching during the night. He wants me to go to a periodontist I think it is called, and have that fixed. When I went to my regular dentist he said that he had seen much worse and didn't think it was necessary. Again I think that the OD wants as close to perfect as he can get. On my consultation with the OS he said nothing about my lower jaw having to be moved, he said that in doing the upper jaw, your lower jaw naturally moves into position to correct the lower one. I told my OD that my major concern was my lower jaw as I look like my lower jaw has been pushed back and that I have no defined chin. My OD told me that we would fix it. As for the OS, I too have only met him once and very briefly at that, but I was told that he can't tell me for sure what is exactally going to happen till right before the surgery as he will perform the surgery on molds of my teeth and jaw etc., to see how it will look and then make adjustments. I am new to this and I hope that I have helped... Take Care Tanja > > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much > stuck). > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I think your ortho is very much out of line -- particularly with remarks that you look ugly, and by even discussing religion with you. You're going to him for professional dental help, not for counseling, nor as a cosmetician, nor as a priest -- at least that's the way I see it. I can't believe that you look ugly, either; if your appearance isn't what you want it to be, hey! That's part of what he's being paid to fix. Matter of fact, he sounds pretty weird to me, unless you've given him some reason to think you're " spoiled. " I have also never known an ortho who suggested that his work was " for looks. " There are usually some excellent dental reasons for getting things (including your bite) into better alignment. Not unusual not to have an accurate long-term plan about the surgeon. I knew about a month before surgery that it was to be soon, and my ortho told me to call the surgeon. Is there another ortho in the practice? And can you tell your surgeon what you've told us, and ask for an opinion about all this from him/her? There are some loony folks in all fields of endeavor, and it sounds to me as though you've had the misfortune to encounter one, unless there's something you haven't told us. Cammie > > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much > stuck). > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I think your ortho is very much out of line -- particularly with remarks that you look ugly, and by even discussing religion with you. You're going to him for professional dental help, not for counseling, nor as a cosmetician, nor as a priest -- at least that's the way I see it. I can't believe that you look ugly, either; if your appearance isn't what you want it to be, hey! That's part of what he's being paid to fix. Matter of fact, he sounds pretty weird to me, unless you've given him some reason to think you're " spoiled. " I have also never known an ortho who suggested that his work was " for looks. " There are usually some excellent dental reasons for getting things (including your bite) into better alignment. Not unusual not to have an accurate long-term plan about the surgeon. I knew about a month before surgery that it was to be soon, and my ortho told me to call the surgeon. Is there another ortho in the practice? And can you tell your surgeon what you've told us, and ask for an opinion about all this from him/her? There are some loony folks in all fields of endeavor, and it sounds to me as though you've had the misfortune to encounter one, unless there's something you haven't told us. Cammie > > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much > stuck). > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 This one I do not understand: " I really needed my day in order because of my bible trained conscience I had wanted him to have my DPA already on file. " What is a " DPA " ? And it seems to me that anyone who speaks of a " Bible-trained conscience " -- huh? -- invites talk of religion. It doesn't bother me, but I don't understand it at all. C. > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much > stuck). > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 This one I do not understand: " I really needed my day in order because of my bible trained conscience I had wanted him to have my DPA already on file. " What is a " DPA " ? And it seems to me that anyone who speaks of a " Bible-trained conscience " -- huh? -- invites talk of religion. It doesn't bother me, but I don't understand it at all. C. > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, but > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated. > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in summer, > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know now, > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is uncoordinated, > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to ask > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I then > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very passive > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, and > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after asking > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to drop > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a statement), > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I went > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her looks " . > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the whole > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both equally as > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go to > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I could > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not in a > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty much > stuck). > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been made to > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I have an > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, etc). > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear these > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem to > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, but > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and type, > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask anyone > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after effects, > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Durable power of attorney. Basically it sounds like this person doesn't believe in life support should the need arise and they want their wishes on file incase something bad happens. > > This one I do not understand: > " I really needed my day in order because of my bible trained > conscience I had wanted him to have my DPA already on file. " > > What is a " DPA " ? And it seems to me that anyone who speaks of > a " Bible-trained conscience " -- huh? -- invites talk of religion. It > doesn't bother me, but I don't understand it at all. > > C. > > > > > > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, > but > > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated.    > > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in > summer, > > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know > now, > > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is > uncoordinated, > > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to > ask > > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I > then > > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very > passive > > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, > and > > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after > asking > > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to > drop > > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a > statement), > > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I > went > > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her > looks " . > > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the > whole > > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both > equally as > > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go > to > > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I > could > > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not > in a > > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty > much > > stuck). > > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been > made to > > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I > have an > > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, > etc). > > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear > these > > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem > to > > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, > but > > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and > type, > > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask > anyone > > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after > effects, > > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Durable power of attorney. Basically it sounds like this person doesn't believe in life support should the need arise and they want their wishes on file incase something bad happens. > > This one I do not understand: > " I really needed my day in order because of my bible trained > conscience I had wanted him to have my DPA already on file. " > > What is a " DPA " ? And it seems to me that anyone who speaks of > a " Bible-trained conscience " -- huh? -- invites talk of religion. It > doesn't bother me, but I don't understand it at all. > > C. > > > > > > I've got a bunch of concerns. I couldn't possibly list them all, > but > > there are a few that are weighing heavily on my mind right now in > > particular. Any responses would be very appreciated.    > > First, I'm curious to know how long before surgery people knew the > > date it would be scheduled? I've been told mine will be in > summer, > > but no one has told me a date or given me a guess. Should I know > now, > > or is it normal not to? I feel like the whole thing is > uncoordinated, > > like my os and orthodontist aren't really communicating. I had to > ask > > my orthodontist at an appointment if it was time to meet with my os > > again (I had only had an initial consultation), he said yes and I > then > > set up an appointment, is this normal? I'm more than a little > > concerned with the behavior of my orthodontist. He seems very > passive > > agressive. At my last appointment he made several comments that I > > absoltely could not believe. He insulted my intelligence, morals, > and > > looks by making comments about me dropping out of school (after > asking > > about how I was doing in college he asked if my motives were to > drop > > out when I had said nothing that would lead him to such a > statement), > > frowning about the answer I gave when he asked me which church I > went > > to, and saying several times that " we're doing this for her > looks " . > > He also made a comment to the effect that I'm spoiled. I couldn't > > believe it. When I came home from my appointment I repeated the > whole > > thing to my mom and brother (separately) and they were both > equally as > > floored. I guess it seems obvious that I should just find another > > orthodontist, but it's not so easy. The orthodontic practice I go > to > > is supposedly the best in the area, and I don't know what else I > could > > do. My orthodontist is taking advantage of the fact that I'm not > in a > > position to say anything to him (it's so far along and I'm pretty > much > > stuck). > > Furthermore, I'm curious as to whether anyone on here has been > made to > > feel like they are ugly. Everybody involved has made some hurtful > > comment about one thing or another. I know some people are just > > careless with their words, but in this profession you would think > > these people would be slightly more aware of what they say. I > have an > > open bite and when talking about it, everyone has also mentioned my > > lower jaw (that it was an indication or would need to be moved, > etc). > > My os said he didn't think I'd need surgery on my lower jaw, but > > didn't rule it out. When my orthodontist asked about the surgery > > (what the os said). I told him that I probably wouldn't be having > > surgery on the lower and he acted disgusted, like the thought of me > > looking as I do was offensive to him. It's so hurtful to hear > these > > comments. It's not just him though, all the people involved seem > to > > have said something offensive. I guess I'm mostly just venting, > but > > I'd like to know if anyone has had a similar experience with the > > people involved... I've got a lot more that I'd like to ask and > type, > > but because this post is so long I guess I'd just like to ask > anyone > > who's willing to give a description of their surgery and anything > > related to it, be it the process leading up to it, the after > effects, > > whatever. Thanks so much--Lara > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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