Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I think this is just piffle. I grew up before there was fluoride in the water, and my teeth suffered greatly. All the while I was in braces, I used a fluoride gel (by prescription from my ortho) twice a week, and I believe totally that it helped me avoid much trouble from decay. (As a kid, I always had a lot of cavities. That slacked off when my community added fluoride to the water. White marks, I was told, are calcification, and tend to be a sign that you're not keeping things clean enough. C. > > > > > So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride > always? > > > The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near > impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride intake > (i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our water > supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware they > are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you > have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the > recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty questionable. > I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the > flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our > water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a > mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's own > standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much. > > Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I think this is just piffle. I grew up before there was fluoride in the water, and my teeth suffered greatly. All the while I was in braces, I used a fluoride gel (by prescription from my ortho) twice a week, and I believe totally that it helped me avoid much trouble from decay. (As a kid, I always had a lot of cavities. That slacked off when my community added fluoride to the water. White marks, I was told, are calcification, and tend to be a sign that you're not keeping things clean enough. C. > > > > > So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride > always? > > > The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near > impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride intake > (i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our water > supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware they > are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you > have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the > recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty questionable. > I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the > flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our > water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a > mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's own > standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much. > > Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I have noticed white spots on my front teeth over the past 5 or 6 months in braces. But I think it may be due to drinking to much soda. ceast36532 <no_reply > wrote: I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I think this is just piffle. I grew up before there was fluoride in the water, and my teeth suffered greatly. All the while I was in braces, I used a fluoride gel (by prescription from my ortho) twice a week, and I believe totally that it helped me avoid much trouble from decay. (As a kid, I always had a lot of cavities. That slacked off when my community added fluoride to the water. White marks, I was told, are calcification, and tend to be a sign that you're not keeping things clean enough. C. > > > > > So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride > always? > > > The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near > impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride intake > (i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our water > supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware they > are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you > have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the > recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty questionable. > I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the > flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our > water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a > mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's own > standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much. > > Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I have noticed white spots on my front teeth over the past 5 or 6 months in braces. But I think it may be due to drinking to much soda. ceast36532 <no_reply > wrote: I'm sorry to be so blunt, but I think this is just piffle. I grew up before there was fluoride in the water, and my teeth suffered greatly. All the while I was in braces, I used a fluoride gel (by prescription from my ortho) twice a week, and I believe totally that it helped me avoid much trouble from decay. (As a kid, I always had a lot of cavities. That slacked off when my community added fluoride to the water. White marks, I was told, are calcification, and tend to be a sign that you're not keeping things clean enough. C. > > > > > So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride > always? > > > The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near > impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride intake > (i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our water > supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware they > are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you > have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the > recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty questionable. > I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the > flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our > water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a > mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's own > standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much. > > Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Excessive fluoride intake during childhood can cause fluorosis, the mild form of which causes white spots on teeth. If you have white spots suddenly appearing as an adult, they're not due to excessive fluoride intake and are probably mineral deposits as Cammie says. Cammie, excessive fluoride intake during childhood is apparently an increasing problem. I too suffered from many cavities growing up and wish I'd had fluoridated water, but like anything else there can be too much of a good thing. I first became aware of fluorosis when reading the incredibly fine print on the insert of my daughter's special fluoride treatment toothpaste. I had asked her dentist about fluoride supplements since we drink filtered water that removes fluoride, and his advice was that we get enough fluoride from everyday sources and not to go out of our way to give our daughter any more. Here's a couple quick quotes from some googling. " Current studies support the view that dental fluorosis has increased in both fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities. North American studies suggest rates of 20 to 75% in the former and 12 to 45% in the latter. " - Locker, D. (1999). Benefits and Risks of Water Fluoridation. An Update of the 1996 Federal-Provincial Sub-committee Report. Prepared for Ontario Ministry of Health and Long Term Care. " There is a growing body of evidence which indicates that the prevalence and, in some cases, the severity of dental fluorosis is increasing in both fluoridated and non-fluoridated regions in the U.S... This trend is undesirable for several reasons: (1) It increases the risk of esthetically objectionable enamel defects; (2) in more severe cases, it increases the risk of harmful effects to dental function; (3) it places dental professionals at an increased risk of litigation; and (4) it jeopardizes the perception of the safety and, therefore, the public acceptance of the use of fluorides. " - Whitford GM. (1990). The physiological and toxicological characteristics of fluoride. Journal of Dental Research 69(Special Issue):539-49. " That said, the benefits of fluoride are also well-documented. But just as we wouldn't pop 20 vitamin pills a day, we also shouldn't overdo the fluoride. --Neil > > > > > > So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride > > always? > > > > > > The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near > > impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride > intake > > (i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our > water > > supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware > they > > are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you > > have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the > > recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty > questionable. > > I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the > > flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our > > water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a > > mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's > own > > standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much. > > > > Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Excessive fluoride intake during childhood can cause fluorosis, the mild form of which causes white spots on teeth. If you have white spots suddenly appearing as an adult, they're not due to excessive fluoride intake and are probably mineral deposits as Cammie says. Cammie, excessive fluoride intake during childhood is apparently an increasing problem. I too suffered from many cavities growing up and wish I'd had fluoridated water, but like anything else there can be too much of a good thing. I first became aware of fluorosis when reading the incredibly fine print on the insert of my daughter's special fluoride treatment toothpaste. I had asked her dentist about fluoride supplements since we drink filtered water that removes fluoride, and his advice was that we get enough fluoride from everyday sources and not to go out of our way to give our daughter any more. Here's a couple quick quotes from some googling. " Current studies support the view that dental fluorosis has increased in both fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities. North American studies suggest rates of 20 to 75% in the former and 12 to 45% in the latter. " - Locker, D. (1999). Benefits and Risks of Water Fluoridation. An Update of the 1996 Federal-Provincial Sub-committee Report. Prepared for Ontario Ministry of Health and Long Term Care. " There is a growing body of evidence which indicates that the prevalence and, in some cases, the severity of dental fluorosis is increasing in both fluoridated and non-fluoridated regions in the U.S... This trend is undesirable for several reasons: (1) It increases the risk of esthetically objectionable enamel defects; (2) in more severe cases, it increases the risk of harmful effects to dental function; (3) it places dental professionals at an increased risk of litigation; and (4) it jeopardizes the perception of the safety and, therefore, the public acceptance of the use of fluorides. " - Whitford GM. (1990). The physiological and toxicological characteristics of fluoride. Journal of Dental Research 69(Special Issue):539-49. " That said, the benefits of fluoride are also well-documented. But just as we wouldn't pop 20 vitamin pills a day, we also shouldn't overdo the fluoride. --Neil > > > > > > So what are you using for toothpaste? Dont they have fluoride > > always? > > > > > > The toothpaste I use has flouride, you're right. It's pretty near > > impossible to find it without, but I try to limit my flouride > intake > > (i.e. mouthwashes). So many food and drink products, even our > water > > supply, have flouride added to them that most people aren't aware > they > > are getting more than the recommended dosage. For instance if you > > have a can of coke and a bowl of cereal you've gotten more than the > > recommended dosage. The research on flouride is pretty > questionable. > > I could go on and on, but, long story short, I don't feel that the > > flouride research is conclusive enough to warrant adding it to our > > water supply (water should just be water, right?)or using it in a > > mouthwash, especially knowing that according to the government's > own > > standards for " safe levels " many people are getting too much. > > > > Well...this has a lot to do with orthognathic surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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