Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 In a message dated 4/21/2003 6:44:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, beau2fulspirit@... writes: > I have a friend that's the mother of two young boys. > She's interested in the surgery, but fears she'll be > one of the few who ends up with complications. Being a > mother, she's " on the fence " about the surgery because > of her kids. > I am probably a bit militant about this subject. She should be scared - she should be concerned that surgery complications could kill her because they certainly can. Worse to my mind, the complications can leave you in the hospital for months and months and months as an invalid. The possibility is small, but it is very, very real and needs to be addressed. The larger possibility is that her obesity will forever mar her ability to be with her children in the here and now. If she is restricted physically by her obesity, she will is restricted from fully enjoying her children and being there for them in every way. If her emotional well being is restricted by her obesity, the impact on her children is probably even greater. I just want to cry when I hear obese mothers who are too ashamed to go to class with the their kids, or to school events, or to recreational activities because of their size. Personally, I subscribe to the belief that when it is my time to go, it's my time to go. I try to live a reasonable life and not take excessive risks (but mostly because I am just pretty cowardly). But the bottom line is that if the Higher Power wants me, I'm going whether I have surgery or not. I made my peace with my family, made out my wills, wrote letters " in case I didn't wake up " and entered into surgery with hope, realism, and peace. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 In a message dated 4/21/2003 6:44:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, beau2fulspirit@... writes: > I have a friend that's the mother of two young boys. > She's interested in the surgery, but fears she'll be > one of the few who ends up with complications. Being a > mother, she's " on the fence " about the surgery because > of her kids. > I am probably a bit militant about this subject. She should be scared - she should be concerned that surgery complications could kill her because they certainly can. Worse to my mind, the complications can leave you in the hospital for months and months and months as an invalid. The possibility is small, but it is very, very real and needs to be addressed. The larger possibility is that her obesity will forever mar her ability to be with her children in the here and now. If she is restricted physically by her obesity, she will is restricted from fully enjoying her children and being there for them in every way. If her emotional well being is restricted by her obesity, the impact on her children is probably even greater. I just want to cry when I hear obese mothers who are too ashamed to go to class with the their kids, or to school events, or to recreational activities because of their size. Personally, I subscribe to the belief that when it is my time to go, it's my time to go. I try to live a reasonable life and not take excessive risks (but mostly because I am just pretty cowardly). But the bottom line is that if the Higher Power wants me, I'm going whether I have surgery or not. I made my peace with my family, made out my wills, wrote letters " in case I didn't wake up " and entered into surgery with hope, realism, and peace. Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 , I don't have any articles but my children were very young when I had my surgery. They were 2yrs8mos, 5 and 7. This was my biggest reason for having the surgery. I was certain that if I didn't do something, I wouldn't be here for them. I went to the doctor for carpal tunel sydrome and was immediately sent to the emergency room. My blood pressure was so high that they admitted me until they could get it down. That one example sure made my choice clear to me. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 , I don't have any articles but my children were very young when I had my surgery. They were 2yrs8mos, 5 and 7. This was my biggest reason for having the surgery. I was certain that if I didn't do something, I wouldn't be here for them. I went to the doctor for carpal tunel sydrome and was immediately sent to the emergency room. My blood pressure was so high that they admitted me until they could get it down. That one example sure made my choice clear to me. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 > I have a friend that's the mother of two young boys. > She's interested in the surgery, but fears she'll be > one of the few who ends up with complications. Being a > mother, she's " on the fence " about the surgery because > of her kids. I can completely relate. My kids were 8, 12 and 14 when I had my surgery, so while they weren't small, I knew they still needed me like they need no one else in their lives. I expressed my fears to my surgeon. I weighed 415 pounds. What if I died on the table? What if something horrible happened and I didn't come home to them? He told me with all honesty, that I was facing death in a few years, maybe less, if I didn't have this surgery. (I knew that, but death from surgery just seems more " immediate " .) The day of my surgery I had a picture of my kids with me. I showed it to him and said " make sure I get home to them. " He smiled and said " that's the least of your worries -- you're going to be fine. " And I was. And I'm going to see them grow up because I made that decision. My other issue is quality of motherhood. At my highest weight, I waited in the parking lot while the other parents of our Brownie troop took our little girls on a one mile hike. No way could I make a mile. Other people took my kids to the movies. We lived in southern California, but we never went to the theme parks, because I knew I wouldn't fit on any of the rides. I watched from the sidelines while my kids and their friends' parents did the things I wanted to be doing. I couldn't even go looking for seashells on the beach -- I would sink in the sand so deep that walking was impossible. Yesterday my daughter wanted to mail a card to her grandparents. On a whim, we walked to the post office because it was a nice day, and NOW it's in walking distance. We walk through the mall, back and forth from one end to the other, just to look. If I'm in the last aisle at the grocery store and realize I forgot something in the first aisle, I don't have to send one of the kids to go get it. I can make that quick run myself. (I had needed the electric carts in the grocery store pre-op). If your friend truly needs this surgery, if a lifetime of dieting has not worked (and she doesn't just consider it a quick fix), her kids are going to benefit from her good health in more ways than she can imagine. You can forward this to her or print it out for her. And pass along a hug too, one mom to another. ~~ Lyn G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 > I have a friend that's the mother of two young boys. > She's interested in the surgery, but fears she'll be > one of the few who ends up with complications. Being a > mother, she's " on the fence " about the surgery because > of her kids. I can completely relate. My kids were 8, 12 and 14 when I had my surgery, so while they weren't small, I knew they still needed me like they need no one else in their lives. I expressed my fears to my surgeon. I weighed 415 pounds. What if I died on the table? What if something horrible happened and I didn't come home to them? He told me with all honesty, that I was facing death in a few years, maybe less, if I didn't have this surgery. (I knew that, but death from surgery just seems more " immediate " .) The day of my surgery I had a picture of my kids with me. I showed it to him and said " make sure I get home to them. " He smiled and said " that's the least of your worries -- you're going to be fine. " And I was. And I'm going to see them grow up because I made that decision. My other issue is quality of motherhood. At my highest weight, I waited in the parking lot while the other parents of our Brownie troop took our little girls on a one mile hike. No way could I make a mile. Other people took my kids to the movies. We lived in southern California, but we never went to the theme parks, because I knew I wouldn't fit on any of the rides. I watched from the sidelines while my kids and their friends' parents did the things I wanted to be doing. I couldn't even go looking for seashells on the beach -- I would sink in the sand so deep that walking was impossible. Yesterday my daughter wanted to mail a card to her grandparents. On a whim, we walked to the post office because it was a nice day, and NOW it's in walking distance. We walk through the mall, back and forth from one end to the other, just to look. If I'm in the last aisle at the grocery store and realize I forgot something in the first aisle, I don't have to send one of the kids to go get it. I can make that quick run myself. (I had needed the electric carts in the grocery store pre-op). If your friend truly needs this surgery, if a lifetime of dieting has not worked (and she doesn't just consider it a quick fix), her kids are going to benefit from her good health in more ways than she can imagine. You can forward this to her or print it out for her. And pass along a hug too, one mom to another. ~~ Lyn G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 In a message dated 4/21/2003 10:24:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, dickp@... writes: > Palmer I am so sorry to say this, especially since I spent most of my life being a feminist, but women think different from men. We are naturally designed to put our children first. However that said, being healthy is the only way to put our children first. Fay Bayuk **300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 In a message dated 4/21/2003 10:24:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, dickp@... writes: > Palmer I am so sorry to say this, especially since I spent most of my life being a feminist, but women think different from men. We are naturally designed to put our children first. However that said, being healthy is the only way to put our children first. Fay Bayuk **300/173 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 I don't have kids or anything -- but I do know that when I decided to have WlS . .. I just had to put everything else second in my life. Like Fay just said -- you can't take care of anyone else until you take care of you! When you make this decision -- you have to make it for you! Not your spouse, not your kids, not whoever - -YOU! So -- if you want to be a better mom -- being healthier will allow you to accomplish that! I hate to sound so cocky -- but you're not much good to anyone until your goot to YOU! jesse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 I don't have kids or anything -- but I do know that when I decided to have WlS . .. I just had to put everything else second in my life. Like Fay just said -- you can't take care of anyone else until you take care of you! When you make this decision -- you have to make it for you! Not your spouse, not your kids, not whoever - -YOU! So -- if you want to be a better mom -- being healthier will allow you to accomplish that! I hate to sound so cocky -- but you're not much good to anyone until your goot to YOU! jesse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 I don't know if every woman is naturally designed to put her children first although most are. I can think of a few that didn't and are now spending a good portion of their life in prison. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas congestive heart failure 4/14/01 479 lbs. Silistic Ring Vertical Gastroplasty 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 lbs Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:01:02 EDT fbayuk@... writes: > In a message dated 4/21/2003 10:24:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, > dickp@... writes: > > > Palmer > > I am so sorry to say this, especially since I spent most of my life > being a > feminist, but women think different from men. We are naturally > designed to > put our children first. > However that said, being healthy is the only way to put our children > first. > > > > Fay Bayuk > **300/173 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > Open RNY 150 cm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 I don't know if every woman is naturally designed to put her children first although most are. I can think of a few that didn't and are now spending a good portion of their life in prison. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas congestive heart failure 4/14/01 479 lbs. Silistic Ring Vertical Gastroplasty 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 lbs Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:01:02 EDT fbayuk@... writes: > In a message dated 4/21/2003 10:24:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, > dickp@... writes: > > > Palmer > > I am so sorry to say this, especially since I spent most of my life > being a > feminist, but women think different from men. We are naturally > designed to > put our children first. > However that said, being healthy is the only way to put our children > first. > > > > Fay Bayuk > **300/173 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > Open RNY 150 cm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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