a new call for info re your gb stats, from ceep

[Guest guest]

Dear Brave Souls:

I hope you are looking for a good day ...

I am interested in making a compilation for our grad list of the following

that I would then post on grad list and in archives for others to see: I ASK

*ONLY* THOSE ONE OR MORE YEARS OUT TO PARTICIPATE.

If you can, just copy this list and answer each question, leaving intact the

question and the number at the beginning of each question. (It is easier for

me to read that way--thanks--grin)

1. Are you male or female?

2. Starting Weight?

3. Weight now?

4. Surgery type and date?

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

6. Length of common channel if you know?

7. Pros of your surgery?

8. Cons of your surgery?

9. greatest joy

10. greatest challenge

11. Your age at time of surgery?

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

You can e-mail me PRIVATELY. Your identity will be kept confidential, and any

identifying data will be removed from the final list.

On another note, I am almost done revising the " over 55 age " list and will

post it again this weekend. Thank you every one for contributing. I will also

put it in the archive and anyone who wants to add to it then can. (I don't

know how to once its archived, but I think you can add a separate file as an

addendum)

Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

complete, and I will post it onlist first of next week and also upload it to

archives on grad list. It is very interesting, and I think you will find it

valuable. Remember, no one ought 'adjust' their meds by themselves without

their doctor's supervision or permission. The list of meddies will say that

more than once throughout. The data is for information only, not to be used

to self-medicate or self-prescribe. But, again, I think you will find it

interesting and valuable. None of hat I am compiling are " scientific

studies. " They are compilations or lists of information people have written

out about themselves from their point of view. I find them very valuable

love,

ceep

[Guest guest]

Dear Brave Souls:

I hope you are looking for a good day ...

I am interested in making a compilation for our grad list of the following

that I would then post on grad list and in archives for others to see: I ASK

*ONLY* THOSE ONE OR MORE YEARS OUT TO PARTICIPATE.

If you can, just copy this list and answer each question, leaving intact the

question and the number at the beginning of each question. (It is easier for

me to read that way--thanks--grin)

1. Are you male or female?

2. Starting Weight?

3. Weight now?

4. Surgery type and date?

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

6. Length of common channel if you know?

7. Pros of your surgery?

8. Cons of your surgery?

9. greatest joy

10. greatest challenge

11. Your age at time of surgery?

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

You can e-mail me PRIVATELY. Your identity will be kept confidential, and any

identifying data will be removed from the final list.

On another note, I am almost done revising the " over 55 age " list and will

post it again this weekend. Thank you every one for contributing. I will also

put it in the archive and anyone who wants to add to it then can. (I don't

know how to once its archived, but I think you can add a separate file as an

addendum)

Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

complete, and I will post it onlist first of next week and also upload it to

archives on grad list. It is very interesting, and I think you will find it

valuable. Remember, no one ought 'adjust' their meds by themselves without

their doctor's supervision or permission. The list of meddies will say that

more than once throughout. The data is for information only, not to be used

to self-medicate or self-prescribe. But, again, I think you will find it

interesting and valuable. None of hat I am compiling are " scientific

studies. " They are compilations or lists of information people have written

out about themselves from their point of view. I find them very valuable

love,

ceep

[Guest guest]

If you can, just copy this list and answer each question, leaving intact

the question and the number at the beginning of each question. (It is

easier for me to read that way--thanks--grin)

1. Are you male or female?

female

2. Starting Weight?

310

3. Weight now?

130

4. Surgery type and date?

Open RNY 09/17/01

Gall bladder removal 09/17/01

Brachioplasty (bat wing removal) 07/22/02 Extensive abdominoplasty

07/22/02 Cauterization burn scar revision 07/22/02

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

125 cm

6. Length of common channel if you know?

Whatever was left :-) since my surgeon doesn't measure us that way

7. Pros of your surgery?

Small pouch, bypass that allows for reasonable food malabsorption

without too much nutritional disturbance

8. Cons of your surgery?

Not transected (huge mistake), does require nutritional supplementation

9. greatest joy

Hiking to the top of mountains, being treated like a human again, size 4

(say no more!)

10. greatest challenge

Snacking on sugary things; persistent anemia & hormonal migraine

headaches, both developed since 1 year post op

11. Your age at time of surgery?

34

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage) Transect.

Research more than you imagine you need to do and don't ever stop doing

your research. Measure weekly. Weigh as often as needed to keep you

calm. Do not associate the number of the scale with your essential

self-hood or value. Enjoy sex often with someone who respects you

regardless of sag or flaps. Have your plastic surgery when YOU are ready

and use the absolute best surgeon in your area even if you can hardly

afford it -- the extra money is not much spread over 25+ years. Do

everything that tickles your fancy at least once, even if it's only

because you CAN.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say Open RNY and gall bladder

removal; K. Weber, MD, ASBS, Seattle, WA Reconstructive/plastic

surgery; Sepehr Egrari, MD, Bellevue, WA http://www.egrari.com

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) 1200 - 1800 calories a day; high protein,

medium fat, low carbs (Atkins slightly modified). No more than 20 grams

of fat, 30 grams of carbs, and 10 grams of sugar per meal. 3 liters of

water, minimum. 60 grams of predigested whey protein, minimum. I do eat

meat and some dairy products but do not drink liquid milk ever. Exercise

a minimum of 1 hour per day EVERY DAY; typically, elliptical trainer,

fast walking outdoors, and/or weight machines. On weekends, I exercise

continually for at least 4 hours on at least one of the two days;

typically, this is medium to fast-speed hiking up and down our rolling

hills and mountains.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) I keep a journal on AMOS

(http://tinyurl.com/4e3h). I am writing a book on my WLS journey. I

created/built and attend a WLS support group.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

2 teaspoons liquid iron (222% RDA) -- still anemic 1800 mg elemental

calcium as calcium citrate (Citracal Ultradense without vitamin D) 1260

mg elemental calcium as calcium citrate (Citracal Plus with magnesium,

vit D, and boron)

2 adult chewable Centrum multi-vites

Weekly B-12 shot (B-12 still low, and still anemic)

That's all, I think! Thanks for doing this and I don't care if my name's

on it.

Love,

Z

[Guest guest]

If you can, just copy this list and answer each question, leaving intact

the question and the number at the beginning of each question. (It is

easier for me to read that way--thanks--grin)

1. Are you male or female?

female

2. Starting Weight?

310

3. Weight now?

130

4. Surgery type and date?

Open RNY 09/17/01

Gall bladder removal 09/17/01

Brachioplasty (bat wing removal) 07/22/02 Extensive abdominoplasty

07/22/02 Cauterization burn scar revision 07/22/02

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

125 cm

6. Length of common channel if you know?

Whatever was left :-) since my surgeon doesn't measure us that way

7. Pros of your surgery?

Small pouch, bypass that allows for reasonable food malabsorption

without too much nutritional disturbance

8. Cons of your surgery?

Not transected (huge mistake), does require nutritional supplementation

9. greatest joy

Hiking to the top of mountains, being treated like a human again, size 4

(say no more!)

10. greatest challenge

Snacking on sugary things; persistent anemia & hormonal migraine

headaches, both developed since 1 year post op

11. Your age at time of surgery?

34

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage) Transect.

Research more than you imagine you need to do and don't ever stop doing

your research. Measure weekly. Weigh as often as needed to keep you

calm. Do not associate the number of the scale with your essential

self-hood or value. Enjoy sex often with someone who respects you

regardless of sag or flaps. Have your plastic surgery when YOU are ready

and use the absolute best surgeon in your area even if you can hardly

afford it -- the extra money is not much spread over 25+ years. Do

everything that tickles your fancy at least once, even if it's only

because you CAN.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say Open RNY and gall bladder

removal; K. Weber, MD, ASBS, Seattle, WA Reconstructive/plastic

surgery; Sepehr Egrari, MD, Bellevue, WA http://www.egrari.com

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) 1200 - 1800 calories a day; high protein,

medium fat, low carbs (Atkins slightly modified). No more than 20 grams

of fat, 30 grams of carbs, and 10 grams of sugar per meal. 3 liters of

water, minimum. 60 grams of predigested whey protein, minimum. I do eat

meat and some dairy products but do not drink liquid milk ever. Exercise

a minimum of 1 hour per day EVERY DAY; typically, elliptical trainer,

fast walking outdoors, and/or weight machines. On weekends, I exercise

continually for at least 4 hours on at least one of the two days;

typically, this is medium to fast-speed hiking up and down our rolling

hills and mountains.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) I keep a journal on AMOS

(http://tinyurl.com/4e3h). I am writing a book on my WLS journey. I

created/built and attend a WLS support group.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

2 teaspoons liquid iron (222% RDA) -- still anemic 1800 mg elemental

calcium as calcium citrate (Citracal Ultradense without vitamin D) 1260

mg elemental calcium as calcium citrate (Citracal Plus with magnesium,

vit D, and boron)

2 adult chewable Centrum multi-vites

Weekly B-12 shot (B-12 still low, and still anemic)

That's all, I think! Thanks for doing this and I don't care if my name's

on it.

Love,

Z

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female?

Female

2. Starting Weight?

352

3. Weight now?

201

4. Surgery type and date?

Lap RNY, June 29, 2001

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

Approx. 100 cm

6. Length of common channel if you know?

Don't know

7. Pros of your surgery?

A new life

8. Cons of your surgery?

Still have to diet and exercise and " watch it " big time; I don't think a lot of

people realize just how much going into this thing.

9. greatest joy?

Looking in the mirror

10. greatest challenge?

Changing my attitudes about food.

11. Your age at time of surgery?

39

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

This is a great way to jumpstart your weight loss efforts, but by NO MEANS the

end to your food/weight problems. The pounds will not just melt off AND STAY

OFF without almost as much effort as without the surgery. It is DEFINITELY only

a tool.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

Dr. Lee Swanstrom

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short paragraph;

aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

Exercise 5 times a week alternating lower and body weights each day, 1+ hours of

cardio (swimming, running, biking) 5X a week. This is when I'm in the groove.

Once there, I will not waiver for a long time. Once I slack, it can be

difficult to get back in the groove. Diet: try to eat six times a day, heavy on

the proteins (protein shake for morning, high protein lunch/dinner) Again, not

always perfect here; in fact, rarely so.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

Just started seeing a psychiatrist. I just started using Fitday.com to track

food/exercise. I also keep a personal journal.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation

315 mg. calcium citrate+vitamin D 3x daily; Children's sugar free chewable

multi. Vitamins 2x daily, iron (niferex 150 forte) 2x daily.

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female?

Female

2. Starting Weight?

352

3. Weight now?

201

4. Surgery type and date?

Lap RNY, June 29, 2001

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

Approx. 100 cm

6. Length of common channel if you know?

Don't know

7. Pros of your surgery?

A new life

8. Cons of your surgery?

Still have to diet and exercise and " watch it " big time; I don't think a lot of

people realize just how much going into this thing.

9. greatest joy?

Looking in the mirror

10. greatest challenge?

Changing my attitudes about food.

11. Your age at time of surgery?

39

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

This is a great way to jumpstart your weight loss efforts, but by NO MEANS the

end to your food/weight problems. The pounds will not just melt off AND STAY

OFF without almost as much effort as without the surgery. It is DEFINITELY only

a tool.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

Dr. Lee Swanstrom

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short paragraph;

aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

Exercise 5 times a week alternating lower and body weights each day, 1+ hours of

cardio (swimming, running, biking) 5X a week. This is when I'm in the groove.

Once there, I will not waiver for a long time. Once I slack, it can be

difficult to get back in the groove. Diet: try to eat six times a day, heavy on

the proteins (protein shake for morning, high protein lunch/dinner) Again, not

always perfect here; in fact, rarely so.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

Just started seeing a psychiatrist. I just started using Fitday.com to track

food/exercise. I also keep a personal journal.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation

315 mg. calcium citrate+vitamin D 3x daily; Children's sugar free chewable

multi. Vitamins 2x daily, iron (niferex 150 forte) 2x daily.

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female?

***100% girl!

2. Starting Weight?

***500 lbs

3. Weight now?

***as of my checkup yesterday, 164 (but now pushing to get to 150 something)

4. Surgery type and date?

***10/26/98 open RNY proximal/medial-not transected

(feel like I got a Volkswagen instead of a Cadillac but at least it gets me

where I'm going!)

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

***150 cm

6. Length of common channel if you know?

***not a clue, and don't see it noted in the operative report

7. Pros of your surgery?

***The obvious is that it saved my life. No need to go into details, pretty much

the same I suppose as any MO person. But for me, the fact the dumping even

exists is a great pro. I need that, I need to know that I can and will get ill

if I eat sugars. Just the thought of it keeps me relatively straight! (counting

on which way your head is turned I suppose)

8. Cons of your surgery?

***Umm, the fact that it is surgery? That it isn't a cure for obesity?

As a super MO person I had difficulties with my incision requiring 10 weeks out

of work. It was messy, frustrating and unexpected. A scary time for me and

hubby. Not really prepared for that. Also, didn't have a large support

network, now I know how important that is preop.

9. greatest joy

***Oh Ceep, how could I even begin to list them?

If I had to pick one...or two, or three...

Ok, being able to give back after a lifetime of taking. Being able to help my

sister and niece have their WLS. Being able to help so many. Paying it

forward.

10. greatest challenge

***I think the emotional changes. The size changes, while rapid...were

wonderful! But wrestling with the demons that I had buried under those layers

of fat. Incredibly hard. Didn't think I'd have the inner strength to deal with

them, and amazed when I find that I do.

11. Your age at time of surgery?

***42! So at the ripe old age of 47 I still don't make your other list

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

***If you have a support group available GO TO IT! Support is vital! You are

only in this alone if you want to be. There are many travelers on this road,

all ready to lend a hand or a kind word

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

***Barry L Fisher

Las Vegas

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

***Generally I eat 4 times a day. Sometimes supplement with protein shakes,

sometimes not. Can't eat much meat so mostly salads, veggies and fish. (been

on a jello and cottage cheese kick for a month now!) About 1200 calories a day.

I also try to stay away from carbs as I find that they are triggers for me.

Make me want to graze all day.

Exercise: When I'm being good, I try to get out and walk 3 miles three times a

week. Other times...I don't!

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

***Prayer for sure, therapy, support group (3 times a month and online every

week) meds for depression and anxiety.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

Multi vit 2X daily

Flax seed oil 2X daily

2000 mgs calcium citrate with mag and D

B complex

sublingual B12 (once a week now, my B12 went thru the roof)

Zinc

Vit C

and I'll toss ground flax seed in whatever strikes my fancy as well as mixing my

upcal with my nondairy dry creamer for a little extra protein.

Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

complete,

***Add Topomax to me please!! After more than 6 weeks of daily, excruciating,

headaches...I've gone 2 days with none!!

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female?

***100% girl!

2. Starting Weight?

***500 lbs

3. Weight now?

***as of my checkup yesterday, 164 (but now pushing to get to 150 something)

4. Surgery type and date?

***10/26/98 open RNY proximal/medial-not transected

(feel like I got a Volkswagen instead of a Cadillac but at least it gets me

where I'm going!)

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

***150 cm

6. Length of common channel if you know?

***not a clue, and don't see it noted in the operative report

7. Pros of your surgery?

***The obvious is that it saved my life. No need to go into details, pretty much

the same I suppose as any MO person. But for me, the fact the dumping even

exists is a great pro. I need that, I need to know that I can and will get ill

if I eat sugars. Just the thought of it keeps me relatively straight! (counting

on which way your head is turned I suppose)

8. Cons of your surgery?

***Umm, the fact that it is surgery? That it isn't a cure for obesity?

As a super MO person I had difficulties with my incision requiring 10 weeks out

of work. It was messy, frustrating and unexpected. A scary time for me and

hubby. Not really prepared for that. Also, didn't have a large support

network, now I know how important that is preop.

9. greatest joy

***Oh Ceep, how could I even begin to list them?

If I had to pick one...or two, or three...

Ok, being able to give back after a lifetime of taking. Being able to help my

sister and niece have their WLS. Being able to help so many. Paying it

forward.

10. greatest challenge

***I think the emotional changes. The size changes, while rapid...were

wonderful! But wrestling with the demons that I had buried under those layers

of fat. Incredibly hard. Didn't think I'd have the inner strength to deal with

them, and amazed when I find that I do.

11. Your age at time of surgery?

***42! So at the ripe old age of 47 I still don't make your other list

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

***If you have a support group available GO TO IT! Support is vital! You are

only in this alone if you want to be. There are many travelers on this road,

all ready to lend a hand or a kind word

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

***Barry L Fisher

Las Vegas

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

***Generally I eat 4 times a day. Sometimes supplement with protein shakes,

sometimes not. Can't eat much meat so mostly salads, veggies and fish. (been

on a jello and cottage cheese kick for a month now!) About 1200 calories a day.

I also try to stay away from carbs as I find that they are triggers for me.

Make me want to graze all day.

Exercise: When I'm being good, I try to get out and walk 3 miles three times a

week. Other times...I don't!

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

***Prayer for sure, therapy, support group (3 times a month and online every

week) meds for depression and anxiety.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

Multi vit 2X daily

Flax seed oil 2X daily

2000 mgs calcium citrate with mag and D

B complex

sublingual B12 (once a week now, my B12 went thru the roof)

Zinc

Vit C

and I'll toss ground flax seed in whatever strikes my fancy as well as mixing my

upcal with my nondairy dry creamer for a little extra protein.

Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

complete,

***Add Topomax to me please!! After more than 6 weeks of daily, excruciating,

headaches...I've gone 2 days with none!!

[Guest guest]

At 1:26 PM -0400 4/25/03, lacorona@... wrote:

>...

>1. Are you male or female?

Male

>2. Starting Weight?

380

>3. Weight now?

242

>4. Surgery type and date?

Laparoscopic BPD/DS, May 2, 2001

Abdominoplasty, hernia repair, butt and outer thigh lift, August 9, 2002

>5. Amount bypassed if you know?

Not applicable to the DS.

Alimentary limb = 250 cm

Common Channel = 100 cm

>6. Length of common channel if you know?

100 cm

>7. Pros of your surgery?

I can eat anything I darned well please, any time I want to eat it,

and I don't have to chew, chew, chew. I seem to have stabilized at

about 70% EWL, but I am oh, so fit, and I now buy clothes in a

regular store and look good for the first time in 15+ years. My

blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar, etc. are all normal. No

need to follow " Rules of the Pouch, " because there is no pouch, only

a much smaller (about 5-6 ounces) stomach. See

http://www.duodenalswitch.com for additional information.

>8. Cons of your surgery?

First four months post-op were uncomfortable: lots'a smells,

inconsistent stools, oily discharges from time to time. But, once my

shortened intestinal path adapted to having to digest what had been

digested by a much longer path, things began to return to normal, and

I feel quite normal now.

>9. greatest joy

The mirror. And, being able to bend down and tie my shoes without

almost blacking out.

>10. greatest challenge

Getting my body ready for old age.

>11. Your age at time of surgery?

61

>12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

Check out http://www.duodenalswitch.com before making up your mind

about what type of WLS to have.

>13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

WLS in '01: Hazen A. Elariny in Northern Virginia

Platics in '02: Khosrow Matini, Northern Virginia

>14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

>paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

>exercise/and how often?)

I don't keep track. But, I emphasize proteins, and I start each

morning with a protein powder in WHOLE LACTAID MILK (I am now lactose

intolerant), for a total of about 45 grams of protein. Then,

breakfast meat of some kind with an egg and a small piece of bread.

My meals are, in quantity, about what a " normal " person would eat. I

have begun to eat at least one serving of fresh fruit daily: a navel

orange, grapes, melon, etc. I also have at least one serving of no-no

sweets a day: a scoop of ice cream, or 2-3 cookies, or a few pieces

of chocolate candy. I have cut out fruit juices (except for very

occasional small drink and a bit of cassis nectar added to my

CrystalLite Ice Tea), sodas, and other sugary drinks. On rare

occasions, maybe once a month, I have a beer or a glass of wine with

dinner.

I do a weight training round of machines and 30 min. of aerobic

exercise at least twice/week, and I walk 2-3 miles when the weather

is nice. I take Tai Chi lessons twice/week.

>15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

>journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

Zilch. Nada. Nichevo. Gar nichts.

If anything helps, it is keeping in touch with " litter mates " on

several WLS Yahoo lists.

>16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

12 Vita4Life (vitamins + minerals, including lots of calcium citrate

and Vit. D)

1 high-potency mixed acidophilus culture capsule (Solgar Advanced 40+)

Also:

1 81 mg aspirin (with breakfast)

1 FiberCon (with lunch)

--Steve

[Guest guest]

At 1:26 PM -0400 4/25/03, lacorona@... wrote:

>...

>1. Are you male or female?

Male

>2. Starting Weight?

380

>3. Weight now?

242

>4. Surgery type and date?

Laparoscopic BPD/DS, May 2, 2001

Abdominoplasty, hernia repair, butt and outer thigh lift, August 9, 2002

>5. Amount bypassed if you know?

Not applicable to the DS.

Alimentary limb = 250 cm

Common Channel = 100 cm

>6. Length of common channel if you know?

100 cm

>7. Pros of your surgery?

I can eat anything I darned well please, any time I want to eat it,

and I don't have to chew, chew, chew. I seem to have stabilized at

about 70% EWL, but I am oh, so fit, and I now buy clothes in a

regular store and look good for the first time in 15+ years. My

blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar, etc. are all normal. No

need to follow " Rules of the Pouch, " because there is no pouch, only

a much smaller (about 5-6 ounces) stomach. See

http://www.duodenalswitch.com for additional information.

>8. Cons of your surgery?

First four months post-op were uncomfortable: lots'a smells,

inconsistent stools, oily discharges from time to time. But, once my

shortened intestinal path adapted to having to digest what had been

digested by a much longer path, things began to return to normal, and

I feel quite normal now.

>9. greatest joy

The mirror. And, being able to bend down and tie my shoes without

almost blacking out.

>10. greatest challenge

Getting my body ready for old age.

>11. Your age at time of surgery?

61

>12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

Check out http://www.duodenalswitch.com before making up your mind

about what type of WLS to have.

>13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

WLS in '01: Hazen A. Elariny in Northern Virginia

Platics in '02: Khosrow Matini, Northern Virginia

>14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

>paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

>exercise/and how often?)

I don't keep track. But, I emphasize proteins, and I start each

morning with a protein powder in WHOLE LACTAID MILK (I am now lactose

intolerant), for a total of about 45 grams of protein. Then,

breakfast meat of some kind with an egg and a small piece of bread.

My meals are, in quantity, about what a " normal " person would eat. I

have begun to eat at least one serving of fresh fruit daily: a navel

orange, grapes, melon, etc. I also have at least one serving of no-no

sweets a day: a scoop of ice cream, or 2-3 cookies, or a few pieces

of chocolate candy. I have cut out fruit juices (except for very

occasional small drink and a bit of cassis nectar added to my

CrystalLite Ice Tea), sodas, and other sugary drinks. On rare

occasions, maybe once a month, I have a beer or a glass of wine with

dinner.

I do a weight training round of machines and 30 min. of aerobic

exercise at least twice/week, and I walk 2-3 miles when the weather

is nice. I take Tai Chi lessons twice/week.

>15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

>journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

Zilch. Nada. Nichevo. Gar nichts.

If anything helps, it is keeping in touch with " litter mates " on

several WLS Yahoo lists.

>16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

12 Vita4Life (vitamins + minerals, including lots of calcium citrate

and Vit. D)

1 high-potency mixed acidophilus culture capsule (Solgar Advanced 40+)

Also:

1 81 mg aspirin (with breakfast)

1 FiberCon (with lunch)

--Steve

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a new call for info re your gb stats, from ceep

Dear Brave Souls:

I hope you are looking for a good day ...

I am interested in making a compilation for our grad list of the following

that I would then post on grad list and in archives for others to see: I ASK

*ONLY* THOSE ONE OR MORE YEARS OUT TO PARTICIPATE.

If you can, just copy this list and answer each question, leaving intact the

question and the number at the beginning of each question. (It is easier for

me to read that way--thanks--grin)

1. Are you male or female? Female

2. Starting Weight? 6 lbs. 7 ounces....OKAY! 315

3. Weight now? 145-150

4. Surgery type and date? MAY 13, 1982 PROXIMAL RNY

5. Amount bypassed if you know? Surgical report doesn't say.

6. Length of common channel if you know? Same as above

7. Pros of your surgery? Well, let's see...I lost 175 lbs, became a police

officer, successfully showed horses to several national championships, am

able to ride and train same, found a wonderful mate, and a wonderful ME

inside.

8. Cons of your surgery? Approx. $6500 (remember, it was the 80's)

9. greatest joy finding myself inside

10. greatest challenge Learning to behave as a thin person

11. Your age at time of surgery? 26

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage) Lay your fork

down between bites and CHEW, CHEW, CHEW!

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say Dr. Ira O. Pollock, OKC, retired.

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) Food? Mostly cheese, for between meal snacks. I eat

when I get hungry. Meals? 2 a day, I try to cook a balanced meal for hubby,

then I eat a couple of bites of meat and my veggies. I'm a vegaholic. I have

no clue as to how many calories. Exercise? I run a horse farm with 20 horses

that require constant care, hauling feed, training, vetting, etc. I just

WORK. Every day, 7 days a week.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) Prayer.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation? Multi-vitamin,

when I remember to take it. I am a terrible supplementer. I take an

antidepressant, Paxil 30 mg, daily.

You can e-mail me PRIVATELY. Your identity will be kept confidential, and

any

identifying data will be removed from the final list.

On another note, I am almost done revising the " over 55 age " list and will

post it again this weekend. Thank you every one for contributing. I will

also

put it in the archive and anyone who wants to add to it then can. (I don't

know how to once its archived, but I think you can add a separate file as an

addendum)

Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

complete, and I will post it onlist first of next week and also upload it to

archives on grad list. It is very interesting, and I think you will find it

valuable. Remember, no one ought 'adjust' their meds by themselves without

their doctor's supervision or permission. The list of meddies will say that

more than once throughout. The data is for information only, not to be used

to self-medicate or self-prescribe. But, again, I think you will find it

interesting and valuable. None of hat I am compiling are " scientific

studies. " They are compilations or lists of information people have written

out about themselves from their point of view. I find them very valuable

love,

ceep

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a new call for info re your gb stats, from ceep

Dear Brave Souls:

I hope you are looking for a good day ...

I am interested in making a compilation for our grad list of the following

that I would then post on grad list and in archives for others to see: I ASK

*ONLY* THOSE ONE OR MORE YEARS OUT TO PARTICIPATE.

If you can, just copy this list and answer each question, leaving intact the

question and the number at the beginning of each question. (It is easier for

me to read that way--thanks--grin)

1. Are you male or female? Female

2. Starting Weight? 6 lbs. 7 ounces....OKAY! 315

3. Weight now? 145-150

4. Surgery type and date? MAY 13, 1982 PROXIMAL RNY

5. Amount bypassed if you know? Surgical report doesn't say.

6. Length of common channel if you know? Same as above

7. Pros of your surgery? Well, let's see...I lost 175 lbs, became a police

officer, successfully showed horses to several national championships, am

able to ride and train same, found a wonderful mate, and a wonderful ME

inside.

8. Cons of your surgery? Approx. $6500 (remember, it was the 80's)

9. greatest joy finding myself inside

10. greatest challenge Learning to behave as a thin person

11. Your age at time of surgery? 26

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage) Lay your fork

down between bites and CHEW, CHEW, CHEW!

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say Dr. Ira O. Pollock, OKC, retired.

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) Food? Mostly cheese, for between meal snacks. I eat

when I get hungry. Meals? 2 a day, I try to cook a balanced meal for hubby,

then I eat a couple of bites of meat and my veggies. I'm a vegaholic. I have

no clue as to how many calories. Exercise? I run a horse farm with 20 horses

that require constant care, hauling feed, training, vetting, etc. I just

WORK. Every day, 7 days a week.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) Prayer.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation? Multi-vitamin,

when I remember to take it. I am a terrible supplementer. I take an

antidepressant, Paxil 30 mg, daily.

You can e-mail me PRIVATELY. Your identity will be kept confidential, and

any

identifying data will be removed from the final list.

On another note, I am almost done revising the " over 55 age " list and will

post it again this weekend. Thank you every one for contributing. I will

also

put it in the archive and anyone who wants to add to it then can. (I don't

know how to once its archived, but I think you can add a separate file as an

addendum)

Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

complete, and I will post it onlist first of next week and also upload it to

archives on grad list. It is very interesting, and I think you will find it

valuable. Remember, no one ought 'adjust' their meds by themselves without

their doctor's supervision or permission. The list of meddies will say that

more than once throughout. The data is for information only, not to be used

to self-medicate or self-prescribe. But, again, I think you will find it

interesting and valuable. None of hat I am compiling are " scientific

studies. " They are compilations or lists of information people have written

out about themselves from their point of view. I find them very valuable

love,

ceep

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

>

> 1. Are you male or female? Female

> 2. Starting Weight? 272

> 3. Weight now? 202

> 4. Surgery type and date? Lap RNY - 2/12/02

> 5. Amount bypassed if you know? 83 cm

> 6. Length of common channel if you know? no idea

> 7. Pros of your surgery? Sooooo many. Health being #1

> 8. Cons of your surgery? Emotional issues that had/have to be

dealt with.

> 9. greatest joy Seeing people's faces who haven't seen me in

awhile.

> 10. greatest challenge Finding ME.

> 11. Your age at time of surgery? 45

> 12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

Remember that the emotional aspects are as or more difficult than the

physical ones.

> 13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

> 14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

> paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind

of

> exercise/and how often?) Since listening to , I don't count

calories. I have 3-4 protein shakes a day and supplement with mostly

protein and vegetables. Occasionally a carb splurge, not that often.

> 15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer,

affirmations,

> journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) I used therapy, but

these boards are the most informative and helpful.

> 16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation? The one

posted in the files. Try to follow it daily.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> 1. Are you male or female? Female

> 2. Starting Weight? 272

> 3. Weight now? 202

> 4. Surgery type and date? Lap RNY - 2/12/02

> 5. Amount bypassed if you know? 83 cm

> 6. Length of common channel if you know? no idea

> 7. Pros of your surgery? Sooooo many. Health being #1

> 8. Cons of your surgery? Emotional issues that had/have to be

dealt with.

> 9. greatest joy Seeing people's faces who haven't seen me in

awhile.

> 10. greatest challenge Finding ME.

> 11. Your age at time of surgery? 45

> 12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

Remember that the emotional aspects are as or more difficult than the

physical ones.

> 13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

> 14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

> paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind

of

> exercise/and how often?) Since listening to , I don't count

calories. I have 3-4 protein shakes a day and supplement with mostly

protein and vegetables. Occasionally a carb splurge, not that often.

> 15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer,

affirmations,

> journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) I used therapy, but

these boards are the most informative and helpful.

> 16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation? The one

posted in the files. Try to follow it daily.

>

[Guest guest]

Do you want list of my meds and supplements? On here or separate? The list

is rather burgeoning, but I'll just add it here...if it isn't what you are

looking for, just delete that part.

1. Are you male or female?

Female

2. Starting Weight?

310

3. Weight now?

126

4. Surgery type and date? Distal RNY gastric bypass with transected stomach.

5/30/00

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

anywhere between 12 and 15 feet...depending on how much intestine I had to

begin with.

6. Length of common channel if you know?

55-60 "

7. Pros of your surgery?

It has given me back my life and my health. I love wearing sizes 4 and

6...somehow I keep thinking it is a mistake!

8. Cons of your surgery?

I guess the tedious part is the constant need to supplement, and test! But

it was a great tradeoff.

9. greatest joy

1) Throwing my cane out the car window, (in the garage..no one was

hurt..lol!) and no longer having to haul around an electric scooter if I went

somewhere. Very emotional moments!

2) Having people tell me I look ten years younger than I am..and their shock

when I tell them I have great-grandchildren. =^)

10. greatest challenge

Following the program to the letter. Making sure I have all my supplements

ahead of time, and never running out. (I haven't, so far! =^))

11. Your age at time of surgery?

57

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

If you are going to do the extreme thing and have surgery, know what it is

all about, educate, educate, educate yourself. Then follow a program of

supplementation and remain thin and healthy both at the same time. Follow

the success and failures of those who went before you...ie this list, and use

everyone's experience pro and con to aid in your own recovery.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

Docs Fox and Oh.

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) I rely mostly on protein shakes and vitamins for my

well-being, and eat what it is that I crave, within reason. Right now, the

strange craving is for California navel oranges. Got to watch the sugar

though. Could really get carried away on those things. But this is the

season...I don't follow a diet, but listen to my body cravings, and try not

to let the head hunger dictate.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) Prayer, of course is number one

in my book. As the Bible says: " For all things I have the strength by virtue

of him who imparts power to me. " I also am a firm believer in therapy.

Going through the layers of fat revealed a lot about my feelings, and anger,

and many things. Sort of like peeling an onion...with each layer of fat, a

layer of feelings and memories and what-have-you emerged, and without

therapy, I would not have made it.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

Centrum clone x 1 daily

Twin-Labs One (Multi) x 1 daily

Calcium Citrate with boron and ipriflavones 500 mg x7 daily

UpCal D ( calcium citrate powder) x 3 scoops daily in 3 of my protein shakes

Vitamin C 1000 mg x 7 daily

Elemental Iron (polysaccharide) X2

Milk Thistle/ Liver herbs >2000 mg x 3 daily

Vitamin E (Dry) 400 mg x 3 daily

Folic acid 800? mg x 4 daily

B-12 sublingual X1daily

Biotin x 2 daily

Vitamin D-3 (Dry) x 4 daily

Selenium x 2 daily

Predigested whey protein 30 gms x 6-8 daily

Did you want a list of my meds too?

Regards~

Jacque

Distal RNY, 5/30/00

Drs. Fox and Oh

310~126

Beginning BMI 50.0

Current BMI 20.3

[Guest guest]

Do you want list of my meds and supplements? On here or separate? The list

is rather burgeoning, but I'll just add it here...if it isn't what you are

looking for, just delete that part.

1. Are you male or female?

Female

2. Starting Weight?

310

3. Weight now?

126

4. Surgery type and date? Distal RNY gastric bypass with transected stomach.

5/30/00

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

anywhere between 12 and 15 feet...depending on how much intestine I had to

begin with.

6. Length of common channel if you know?

55-60 "

7. Pros of your surgery?

It has given me back my life and my health. I love wearing sizes 4 and

6...somehow I keep thinking it is a mistake!

8. Cons of your surgery?

I guess the tedious part is the constant need to supplement, and test! But

it was a great tradeoff.

9. greatest joy

1) Throwing my cane out the car window, (in the garage..no one was

hurt..lol!) and no longer having to haul around an electric scooter if I went

somewhere. Very emotional moments!

2) Having people tell me I look ten years younger than I am..and their shock

when I tell them I have great-grandchildren. =^)

10. greatest challenge

Following the program to the letter. Making sure I have all my supplements

ahead of time, and never running out. (I haven't, so far! =^))

11. Your age at time of surgery?

57

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

If you are going to do the extreme thing and have surgery, know what it is

all about, educate, educate, educate yourself. Then follow a program of

supplementation and remain thin and healthy both at the same time. Follow

the success and failures of those who went before you...ie this list, and use

everyone's experience pro and con to aid in your own recovery.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

Docs Fox and Oh.

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) I rely mostly on protein shakes and vitamins for my

well-being, and eat what it is that I crave, within reason. Right now, the

strange craving is for California navel oranges. Got to watch the sugar

though. Could really get carried away on those things. But this is the

season...I don't follow a diet, but listen to my body cravings, and try not

to let the head hunger dictate.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) Prayer, of course is number one

in my book. As the Bible says: " For all things I have the strength by virtue

of him who imparts power to me. " I also am a firm believer in therapy.

Going through the layers of fat revealed a lot about my feelings, and anger,

and many things. Sort of like peeling an onion...with each layer of fat, a

layer of feelings and memories and what-have-you emerged, and without

therapy, I would not have made it.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

Centrum clone x 1 daily

Twin-Labs One (Multi) x 1 daily

Calcium Citrate with boron and ipriflavones 500 mg x7 daily

UpCal D ( calcium citrate powder) x 3 scoops daily in 3 of my protein shakes

Vitamin C 1000 mg x 7 daily

Elemental Iron (polysaccharide) X2

Milk Thistle/ Liver herbs >2000 mg x 3 daily

Vitamin E (Dry) 400 mg x 3 daily

Folic acid 800? mg x 4 daily

B-12 sublingual X1daily

Biotin x 2 daily

Vitamin D-3 (Dry) x 4 daily

Selenium x 2 daily

Predigested whey protein 30 gms x 6-8 daily

Did you want a list of my meds too?

Regards~

Jacque

Distal RNY, 5/30/00

Drs. Fox and Oh

310~126

Beginning BMI 50.0

Current BMI 20.3

[Guest guest]

> 1. Are you male or female?

********** I enjoy being a girl, said Mitaza Gaynor

> 2. Starting Weight?

************* 262, BMI 50

> 3. Weight now?

************ 112 or so

> 4. Surgery type and date?

******* open, distal RNY 10/5/94, non-transected

1/20/2000, repair to staple line, now transected

> 5. Amount bypassed if you know?

******* nope

> 6. Length of common channel if you know?

********** 40 " common channel (100cm), 60 " alimentary. Bypassed is not

shown on op report

> 7. Pros of your surgery?

************* my type? or my having had surgery? I'll go with my type. Very

distal, weight came off in a reasonable fashion. I work to keep it off, but

do not have to starve or " diet " . I just abide by the formula that got me

here

> 8. Cons of your surgery?

*********** gotta watch the nutrition like a hawk, and then can take some

work to turn a negative around

> 9. greatest joy

*********** my son thinks I'm " beautiful " & my grandson thinks I'm " cute " .

I'm just happy I lived long enough to hear anything good at all. Lungs

work! Feet work! Yippee!

> 10. greatest challenge

******** grappling with the fear of regain, staying on track, day after day,

and trying to match what the mirror & people tell me to what I think I see.

> 11. Your age at time of surgery?

********** coupla days before I turned 45

> 12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

lots of protein supplement, full set of correct vites, more water than I

did, some sorta exercise (esp weight bearing), no milk, no sugar, no

grazing, no drinking with meals. Accept that it is largely a physical

disorder & work accordingly. If there is ALSO a mental disorder, get to

work. Never pretend we are normal. We're not. Never will be

> 13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

*********** Dr SR Fox, Tacoma, WA & Dr K Oh, Federal Way, WA

> 14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

> paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

> exercise/and how often?)

********* no idea about calories, not a clue

no milk

no sugar

I do 4 " feedings " a day. 2 are more like meals, 2 are more like snacks. I do

6 protein supps a day, unless I'm stressed, then more. Leap frog

protein/food, starting & ending with protein supps. I don't avoid fats, but

avoid sugars, esp hidden sugars.

What is the meaning of othat E-word you used?

> 15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

> journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

********* I'm very involved in support fo & from others of my kind. Prayer.

> 16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

******** HAHAHA! You don't really want to know this one.

Now, acfcording to my original instructions, as adjusted by years of labs

2 mutli vites

4 zinc (50mg ea)

4 potassium

1 dry A & D per week

12 dry D per day

about 8000mg calcium citrate (+ mag + D)

B12 shots weekly y(it addresses 2 other conditions, as well)

2000mg vit C

and then a bunch of stuff I take by choice, liek Cranberry (pills), stevia

tabs, relora, milk thistle, B complex, ipriflavone, boron.... some rx .

Whatever I read about in the trade mags. LOL!

>

> You can e-mail me PRIVATELY. Your identity will be kept confidential, and

any

> identifying data will be removed from the final list.

>

> On another note, I am almost done revising the " over 55 age " list and

will

> post it again this weekend. Thank you every one for contributing. I will

also

> put it in the archive and anyone who wants to add to it then can. (I don't

> know how to once its archived, but I think you can add a separate file as

an

> addendum)

>

> Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

> complete, and I will post it onlist first of next week and also upload it

to

> archives on grad list. It is very interesting, and I think you will find

it

> valuable. Remember, no one ought 'adjust' their meds by themselves without

> their doctor's supervision or permission. The list of meddies will say

that

> more than once throughout. The data is for information only, not to be

used

> to self-medicate or self-prescribe. But, again, I think you will find it

> interesting and valuable. None of hat I am compiling are " scientific

> studies. " They are compilations or lists of information people have

written

> out about themselves from their point of view. I find them very valuable

>

> love,

> ceep

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> 1. Are you male or female?

********** I enjoy being a girl, said Mitaza Gaynor

> 2. Starting Weight?

************* 262, BMI 50

> 3. Weight now?

************ 112 or so

> 4. Surgery type and date?

******* open, distal RNY 10/5/94, non-transected

1/20/2000, repair to staple line, now transected

> 5. Amount bypassed if you know?

******* nope

> 6. Length of common channel if you know?

********** 40 " common channel (100cm), 60 " alimentary. Bypassed is not

shown on op report

> 7. Pros of your surgery?

************* my type? or my having had surgery? I'll go with my type. Very

distal, weight came off in a reasonable fashion. I work to keep it off, but

do not have to starve or " diet " . I just abide by the formula that got me

here

> 8. Cons of your surgery?

*********** gotta watch the nutrition like a hawk, and then can take some

work to turn a negative around

> 9. greatest joy

*********** my son thinks I'm " beautiful " & my grandson thinks I'm " cute " .

I'm just happy I lived long enough to hear anything good at all. Lungs

work! Feet work! Yippee!

> 10. greatest challenge

******** grappling with the fear of regain, staying on track, day after day,

and trying to match what the mirror & people tell me to what I think I see.

> 11. Your age at time of surgery?

********** coupla days before I turned 45

> 12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

lots of protein supplement, full set of correct vites, more water than I

did, some sorta exercise (esp weight bearing), no milk, no sugar, no

grazing, no drinking with meals. Accept that it is largely a physical

disorder & work accordingly. If there is ALSO a mental disorder, get to

work. Never pretend we are normal. We're not. Never will be

> 13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

*********** Dr SR Fox, Tacoma, WA & Dr K Oh, Federal Way, WA

> 14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

> paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

> exercise/and how often?)

********* no idea about calories, not a clue

no milk

no sugar

I do 4 " feedings " a day. 2 are more like meals, 2 are more like snacks. I do

6 protein supps a day, unless I'm stressed, then more. Leap frog

protein/food, starting & ending with protein supps. I don't avoid fats, but

avoid sugars, esp hidden sugars.

What is the meaning of othat E-word you used?

> 15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

> journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

********* I'm very involved in support fo & from others of my kind. Prayer.

> 16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

******** HAHAHA! You don't really want to know this one.

Now, acfcording to my original instructions, as adjusted by years of labs

2 mutli vites

4 zinc (50mg ea)

4 potassium

1 dry A & D per week

12 dry D per day

about 8000mg calcium citrate (+ mag + D)

B12 shots weekly y(it addresses 2 other conditions, as well)

2000mg vit C

and then a bunch of stuff I take by choice, liek Cranberry (pills), stevia

tabs, relora, milk thistle, B complex, ipriflavone, boron.... some rx .

Whatever I read about in the trade mags. LOL!

>

> You can e-mail me PRIVATELY. Your identity will be kept confidential, and

any

> identifying data will be removed from the final list.

>

> On another note, I am almost done revising the " over 55 age " list and

will

> post it again this weekend. Thank you every one for contributing. I will

also

> put it in the archive and anyone who wants to add to it then can. (I don't

> know how to once its archived, but I think you can add a separate file as

an

> addendum)

>

> Secondly, the list of medications taken by various people is also almost

> complete, and I will post it onlist first of next week and also upload it

to

> archives on grad list. It is very interesting, and I think you will find

it

> valuable. Remember, no one ought 'adjust' their meds by themselves without

> their doctor's supervision or permission. The list of meddies will say

that

> more than once throughout. The data is for information only, not to be

used

> to self-medicate or self-prescribe. But, again, I think you will find it

> interesting and valuable. None of hat I am compiling are " scientific

> studies. " They are compilations or lists of information people have

written

> out about themselves from their point of view. I find them very valuable

>

> love,

> ceep

>

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[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female?

female

2. Starting Weight?

256lbs

3. Weight now?

130lbs

4. Surgery type and date?

open distal RNY, 17 May 1993

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

I was told 10ft.

6. Length of common channel if you know?

I was told approximately 6ft.

7. Pros of your surgery?

It gave me a new life. Along with all the obvious benefits, it freed my

mind. I no longer have the constant worry of how I will loose weight and the

feelings of failure.

8. Cons of your surgery?

Having to watch my nutrient levels. You have to be very informed. Doctors

don't always see the importance until there are problems.

9. greatest joy

Being able to walk, run, breathe and feel like a normal human being.

10. greatest challenge

Once again, nutrients. Trying to make sure I get everything I need everyday.

11. Your age at time of surgery?

27

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

Follow the instructions of your surgeon and take advantage of your tool.

Learn everything you can about vitamins and nutrients...I waited way too

long, trusting doctors told me everything I needed to know. Stay on top of

everything and find good support...like this wonderful group. Enjoy your new

life!

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

Dr. Brewer, VA Beach, VA

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

I don't count calories or carbs. I still use the no more than 2 levels cups

of food per day and make sure I get my protein first. I won't say I never

have sugar but I never use it. I don't eat sweets. As for exercise, I walk a

lot. I am not working right now but when I do, I enjoy a very physical job.

I'm in forestry and my last job was in genetic and research green houses. I

can tell you it's very physical. I also stay very active even indoors.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

I have a strong faith and I know God will guide me through anything. He's

never let me down.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

2 prenatal

2 iron (ferrofumate 330mg ea.) with vitamin C (60mg ea.)

2 potassium (8 MEQ ea.)

1 beta-caroten (9mg-1500mg vitamin A ea.)

2 zink (15mg ea.)

1 vitamin E (335mg ea.)

5 calcium citrate (calcium 450mg, magnesium 225mg)

5 D3 (400ie)

6 Protabs (plant protein with 500mg ea.)

monthly B12 injections

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female?

female

2. Starting Weight?

256lbs

3. Weight now?

130lbs

4. Surgery type and date?

open distal RNY, 17 May 1993

5. Amount bypassed if you know?

I was told 10ft.

6. Length of common channel if you know?

I was told approximately 6ft.

7. Pros of your surgery?

It gave me a new life. Along with all the obvious benefits, it freed my

mind. I no longer have the constant worry of how I will loose weight and the

feelings of failure.

8. Cons of your surgery?

Having to watch my nutrient levels. You have to be very informed. Doctors

don't always see the importance until there are problems.

9. greatest joy

Being able to walk, run, breathe and feel like a normal human being.

10. greatest challenge

Once again, nutrients. Trying to make sure I get everything I need everyday.

11. Your age at time of surgery?

27

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage)

Follow the instructions of your surgeon and take advantage of your tool.

Learn everything you can about vitamins and nutrients...I waited way too

long, trusting doctors told me everything I needed to know. Stay on top of

everything and find good support...like this wonderful group. Enjoy your new

life!

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say

Dr. Brewer, VA Beach, VA

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?)

I don't count calories or carbs. I still use the no more than 2 levels cups

of food per day and make sure I get my protein first. I won't say I never

have sugar but I never use it. I don't eat sweets. As for exercise, I walk a

lot. I am not working right now but when I do, I enjoy a very physical job.

I'm in forestry and my last job was in genetic and research green houses. I

can tell you it's very physical. I also stay very active even indoors.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.)

I have a strong faith and I know God will guide me through anything. He's

never let me down.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation?

2 prenatal

2 iron (ferrofumate 330mg ea.) with vitamin C (60mg ea.)

2 potassium (8 MEQ ea.)

1 beta-caroten (9mg-1500mg vitamin A ea.)

2 zink (15mg ea.)

1 vitamin E (335mg ea.)

5 calcium citrate (calcium 450mg, magnesium 225mg)

5 D3 (400ie)

6 Protabs (plant protein with 500mg ea.)

monthly B12 injections

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female? Female

2. Starting Weight? 362

3. Weight now? 200

4. Surgery type and date? 4/15/02 Open RNY

5. Amount bypassed if you know? Don't know

6. Length of common channel if you know? Don't know

7. Pros of your surgery? The opportunity to live and change my own life

8. Cons of your surgery? I can't think of even one

9. greatest joy - Being alive and relatively pain free, each and every day

10. greatest challenge - Grazing, an old habit that dies hard

11. Your age at time of surgery? - I was 54

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage) Advice, well all

I can think is to live each day a moment at a time. It's the long view

that seems insurmountable most days to me. Moment to moment I can and do

handle.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say - Dr Barry Fisher, Las Vegas, NV

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) I eat about 1000 calories a day most days. I

exercise almost daily, 3x a week swim aerobics, jacuzzi then sauna. Cardio -

3 miles on treadmill, 10 - 20 miles on Fat burn program on Life Cycle. On

days I've got my gym buddy with me we do machines for toning, situps, pilates

for stretching.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) I've been seeing a therapist

since 2 months pre op. 3 Support groups a month with my surgeon. I'm an

irregular journal keeper, daily affirmations help a lot and yes I do pray

daily for God to give me strength just for this moment. Recently I've

joined Weight Watchers just to have a weekly place to weigh in and be

accountable, I don't follow their eating program.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation? 2 childrens

chewables, Iron supplements 2x a week and Calcium Citrate because my sister

says it'll help.

Las Vegas Carol

Dr Barry Fisher

4/15/02 Open RNY

-160Lbs

<A HREF= " http://www.geocities.com/lvnvcarol/ " >Carol's Web Site 101</A>

[Guest guest]

1. Are you male or female? Female

2. Starting Weight? 362

3. Weight now? 200

4. Surgery type and date? 4/15/02 Open RNY

5. Amount bypassed if you know? Don't know

6. Length of common channel if you know? Don't know

7. Pros of your surgery? The opportunity to live and change my own life

8. Cons of your surgery? I can't think of even one

9. greatest joy - Being alive and relatively pain free, each and every day

10. greatest challenge - Grazing, an old habit that dies hard

11. Your age at time of surgery? - I was 54

12. Any advice to others? (about 5 lines if you can manage) Advice, well all

I can think is to live each day a moment at a time. It's the long view

that seems insurmountable most days to me. Moment to moment I can and do

handle.

13. Your surgery doc? if you care to say - Dr Barry Fisher, Las Vegas, NV

14. Your regimen of food and exercise? (Please summarize in a short

paragraph; aprx calories per day estimate/and minutes of what kind of

exercise/and how often?) I eat about 1000 calories a day most days. I

exercise almost daily, 3x a week swim aerobics, jacuzzi then sauna. Cardio -

3 miles on treadmill, 10 - 20 miles on Fat burn program on Life Cycle. On

days I've got my gym buddy with me we do machines for toning, situps, pilates

for stretching.

15. Which of these adjuncts do you use? (hypnosis, prayer, affirmations,

journal keeping, therapy, OA, meddies, etc.) I've been seeing a therapist

since 2 months pre op. 3 Support groups a month with my surgeon. I'm an

irregular journal keeper, daily affirmations help a lot and yes I do pray

daily for God to give me strength just for this moment. Recently I've

joined Weight Watchers just to have a weekly place to weigh in and be

accountable, I don't follow their eating program.

16. What is your daily vitamin and mineral supplementation? 2 childrens

chewables, Iron supplements 2x a week and Calcium Citrate because my sister

says it'll help.

Las Vegas Carol

Dr Barry Fisher

4/15/02 Open RNY

-160Lbs

<A HREF= " http://www.geocities.com/lvnvcarol/ " >Carol's Web Site 101</A>