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Hi Mark,

I'm the friend whose voice changed post-op. Initially I didn't notice

anything, but when I started singing (in the car, I don't really

sing), I found I could hit lower notes. My husband later told me that

my voice was lower in pitch - initially he said he thought it was

just post-op mumbling. Family said the same thing.

Another friend who does not see me often (once a year) said he did

not recognize my voice. My own cellphone did not recognize my voice

post-op.

I feel I had somewhat of a nasally voice due to the restriction of my

airway (my lower was advanced, my upper shortened or impacted), and I

can say it's improved in that respect.

I also do have mild asthma, though (cough variant), and I think that

this affects my voice - every once in awhile it becomes hoarse and/or

breathy.

Hope that helps. I'm not sure how far post-op you are, certainly some

change takes quite awhile to settle in. I felt myself talking through

my nose too, it's a strange feeling but I think it's because the

sinuses get all disturbed because of the upper surgery.

> > >

> > > , et als --

> > >

> > > I still refuse to believe that there isn't an expert out there

> who

> > > can help with this question. So, I finally had an idea. I e-

> mailed

> > > the AAOMS with it, and got this nice reply today:

> > >

> > > Good Day!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I shared your e-mail with colleagues here at AAOMS

headquarters.

> > > They will contact some of our members to help you out. You

will

> > hear

> > > back from someone within a few days. Should that not happen,

> > please

> > > let me know.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish you the very best.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cordially,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Marquita Hynes

> > >

> > > Senior Communications Associate

> > >

> > > American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons

> > >

> > > 9700 West Bryn Mawr Avenue

> > >

> > > Rosemont, Illinois 60018-5701

> > >

> > > www.aaoms.org

> > >

> > > , ext. 4317 fax:

> > >

> > > mhynes@a...

> > >

> > > My post to her:

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Cammie

> > >

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:29 PM

> > > To: inquiries

> > > Subject: singing and surgery

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Question, friends...

> > >

> > > I had orthognathic surgery two years ago, (simple, minimal

lower

> > > advancement and a bit of a sideways slide, in the hands of a

> genius

> > > at it, Dr. Greg Zieman of Mobile, Ala.) am happy and satisfied

> with

> > > the results. And I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, as the

> saying

> > > goes, before surgery, and still can't. But I became active in

> some

> > > online groups, which helped me a lot in calming my fears. There

> is

> > > now a young man who is, I believe, a professional singer, needs

> > > orthognathic surgery and is concerned about whether the surgery

> > will

> > > affect his voice.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have a good friend who is well-trained as a classical

musician

> (a

> > > violinist with a mom who sings lieder) and believes that her

> voice

> > > was lowered by the surgery -- upper, lower and genio. I can't

> hear

> > > it, but she can.

> > >

> > > Anyhow, the fellow facing the decision can't find a doc who

knows

> > > about singing, nor a voice coach who knows about surgery. I'm

> > > guessing that somewhere among your members there is likely to

be

> a

> > > singing surgeon who specializes in oral and maxillofacial

> troubles.

> > > Is that possible?

> > >

> > > Any help would be welcome.

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Back to me:

> > >

> > > I don't mind being the middle person, or you may want to

contact

> > the

> > > lady directly. If you do the latter, let her know where you're

> > coming

> > > from, and that it's the same inquiry, please. If I hear from a

> > > surgeon, I'll probably forward name etc., directly to ,

> unless

> > > there's someone else who's in the same quandary...

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Cammie

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Hi Mark,

I'm the friend whose voice changed post-op. Initially I didn't notice

anything, but when I started singing (in the car, I don't really

sing), I found I could hit lower notes. My husband later told me that

my voice was lower in pitch - initially he said he thought it was

just post-op mumbling. Family said the same thing.

Another friend who does not see me often (once a year) said he did

not recognize my voice. My own cellphone did not recognize my voice

post-op.

I feel I had somewhat of a nasally voice due to the restriction of my

airway (my lower was advanced, my upper shortened or impacted), and I

can say it's improved in that respect.

I also do have mild asthma, though (cough variant), and I think that

this affects my voice - every once in awhile it becomes hoarse and/or

breathy.

Hope that helps. I'm not sure how far post-op you are, certainly some

change takes quite awhile to settle in. I felt myself talking through

my nose too, it's a strange feeling but I think it's because the

sinuses get all disturbed because of the upper surgery.

> > >

> > > , et als --

> > >

> > > I still refuse to believe that there isn't an expert out there

> who

> > > can help with this question. So, I finally had an idea. I e-

> mailed

> > > the AAOMS with it, and got this nice reply today:

> > >

> > > Good Day!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I shared your e-mail with colleagues here at AAOMS

headquarters.

> > > They will contact some of our members to help you out. You

will

> > hear

> > > back from someone within a few days. Should that not happen,

> > please

> > > let me know.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish you the very best.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cordially,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Marquita Hynes

> > >

> > > Senior Communications Associate

> > >

> > > American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons

> > >

> > > 9700 West Bryn Mawr Avenue

> > >

> > > Rosemont, Illinois 60018-5701

> > >

> > > www.aaoms.org

> > >

> > > , ext. 4317 fax:

> > >

> > > mhynes@a...

> > >

> > > My post to her:

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Cammie

> > >

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:29 PM

> > > To: inquiries

> > > Subject: singing and surgery

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Question, friends...

> > >

> > > I had orthognathic surgery two years ago, (simple, minimal

lower

> > > advancement and a bit of a sideways slide, in the hands of a

> genius

> > > at it, Dr. Greg Zieman of Mobile, Ala.) am happy and satisfied

> with

> > > the results. And I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, as the

> saying

> > > goes, before surgery, and still can't. But I became active in

> some

> > > online groups, which helped me a lot in calming my fears. There

> is

> > > now a young man who is, I believe, a professional singer, needs

> > > orthognathic surgery and is concerned about whether the surgery

> > will

> > > affect his voice.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have a good friend who is well-trained as a classical

musician

> (a

> > > violinist with a mom who sings lieder) and believes that her

> voice

> > > was lowered by the surgery -- upper, lower and genio. I can't

> hear

> > > it, but she can.

> > >

> > > Anyhow, the fellow facing the decision can't find a doc who

knows

> > > about singing, nor a voice coach who knows about surgery. I'm

> > > guessing that somewhere among your members there is likely to

be

> a

> > > singing surgeon who specializes in oral and maxillofacial

> troubles.

> > > Is that possible?

> > >

> > > Any help would be welcome.

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------

> > > Back to me:

> > >

> > > I don't mind being the middle person, or you may want to

contact

> > the

> > > lady directly. If you do the latter, let her know where you're

> > coming

> > > from, and that it's the same inquiry, please. If I hear from a

> > > surgeon, I'll probably forward name etc., directly to ,

> unless

> > > there's someone else who's in the same quandary...

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Cammie

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