Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Hi , I wish I could calm your fears but maybe it will help to know that you are not alone. I was in a very similar situation as yours. I have had TMJ problems most of my life. My jaw started locking when I was about 8 or 9 years old because the joints had never formed correctly. As a result my lower jaw was very small and I had a significant overbite making the joint problems even worse. When I was in my teens and twenties, there really wasn't any other treatment available other than wearing a splint. Unlike you, though, I didn't have any problems with headaches. My pain was isolated to the joints. To prevent my joints from deteriorating more and to preserve my teeth, a TMJ specialist recommended that I go through orthognathic surgery to correct my bite. After 5 yrs in braces, I was finally ready for surgery. My surgeon did warn me that the surgery could possibly make the joint worse but hopefully it would improve. He did everything he could to minimize stress on the joints. We did the surgery in two stages. The first one gradually advanced my lower jaw 17 mm by using distraction osteogenesis and the second one moved my upper jaw 5 mm. Afterwards my bite was perfect for the first time in my life but unfortunately, I was one of the few whose TMJ problems got worse. To make a long story short, what little was left of the condyle on the left " melted " away and the right joint fused and had avascular necrosis (dead bone). I ended up going through three more surgeries to reconstruct the joints. I'm only 37 so I'm too young for artificial joints so the TMJ surgeon again used distraction to create condyles and grafted part of the temporalis muscle (a scalp muscle) into the joints to create cartilage. I still need one more surgery (just a simple Lefort) to correct the open bite that resulted after the joint reconstruction. I still have pain but it's now a lot better. I take Celebrex to maintain my new joints. I can't take muscle relaxants so my surgeon injects Botox into the jaw muscles instead. After a long time on a liquid diet, I can now chew soft food which was about all I could do before the surgeries anyway so I haven't had any improvement there. Despite everything, I don't regret having the orthognathic surgery. I would have needed the joint reconstructions anyway. It was just a matter of time. Possibly if I had had the surgery 15-20 years earlier (if it had been available then which it wasn't), my joints wouldn't have deteriorated quite so much and I would have had a better outcome. I wish you the best and hope that by getting your bite taken care of now, you will avoid the kind of joint problems I ended up with. > > Hi, I am new to this group and joined today after finding it when > doing a Google search. I felt a little calmer after reading some of > the threads and conversations going on between the other members. > > I am 23 years old and scheduled to have surgery Dec 15th. I have TMJ > and arthritis in both joints. Significant breakdown of the joint on > my right side. I have been in a splint for over 3 years and have > gone from Dr to Dr. I take arthritis medication and muscle relaxers > everyday...sometimes I have to chase these with a pain > medication...Butabitol..to make my migraines go away. I have a > significant gap between my upper and lower teeth...I haven't been > able to chew food without a splint for 2 years because my teeth don't > touch. My surgery is going to be a one piece upper lefort 1...with > sliding genioplasty to fix lip tension. I am worried that I am not > doing the right thing...however, the Drs and I see no other way out > of this splint. I have a great surgeon...and I trust him...I am just > having some doubts. After battling with insurance for a year...I'm > really just exhausted from all of this emotional upheaval. > > I know there are several of you that have had this procedure done. > If there are any words of encouragement I would greatly appreciate > it. Did any of you go into the surgery still in pain...and come out > still hurting? I am told by my Dr that what I feel now...I will > still feel after and I will still need all of my meds. Any > experience would be helpful... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Hi , I wish I could calm your fears but maybe it will help to know that you are not alone. I was in a very similar situation as yours. I have had TMJ problems most of my life. My jaw started locking when I was about 8 or 9 years old because the joints had never formed correctly. As a result my lower jaw was very small and I had a significant overbite making the joint problems even worse. When I was in my teens and twenties, there really wasn't any other treatment available other than wearing a splint. Unlike you, though, I didn't have any problems with headaches. My pain was isolated to the joints. To prevent my joints from deteriorating more and to preserve my teeth, a TMJ specialist recommended that I go through orthognathic surgery to correct my bite. After 5 yrs in braces, I was finally ready for surgery. My surgeon did warn me that the surgery could possibly make the joint worse but hopefully it would improve. He did everything he could to minimize stress on the joints. We did the surgery in two stages. The first one gradually advanced my lower jaw 17 mm by using distraction osteogenesis and the second one moved my upper jaw 5 mm. Afterwards my bite was perfect for the first time in my life but unfortunately, I was one of the few whose TMJ problems got worse. To make a long story short, what little was left of the condyle on the left " melted " away and the right joint fused and had avascular necrosis (dead bone). I ended up going through three more surgeries to reconstruct the joints. I'm only 37 so I'm too young for artificial joints so the TMJ surgeon again used distraction to create condyles and grafted part of the temporalis muscle (a scalp muscle) into the joints to create cartilage. I still need one more surgery (just a simple Lefort) to correct the open bite that resulted after the joint reconstruction. I still have pain but it's now a lot better. I take Celebrex to maintain my new joints. I can't take muscle relaxants so my surgeon injects Botox into the jaw muscles instead. After a long time on a liquid diet, I can now chew soft food which was about all I could do before the surgeries anyway so I haven't had any improvement there. Despite everything, I don't regret having the orthognathic surgery. I would have needed the joint reconstructions anyway. It was just a matter of time. Possibly if I had had the surgery 15-20 years earlier (if it had been available then which it wasn't), my joints wouldn't have deteriorated quite so much and I would have had a better outcome. I wish you the best and hope that by getting your bite taken care of now, you will avoid the kind of joint problems I ended up with. > > Hi, I am new to this group and joined today after finding it when > doing a Google search. I felt a little calmer after reading some of > the threads and conversations going on between the other members. > > I am 23 years old and scheduled to have surgery Dec 15th. I have TMJ > and arthritis in both joints. Significant breakdown of the joint on > my right side. I have been in a splint for over 3 years and have > gone from Dr to Dr. I take arthritis medication and muscle relaxers > everyday...sometimes I have to chase these with a pain > medication...Butabitol..to make my migraines go away. I have a > significant gap between my upper and lower teeth...I haven't been > able to chew food without a splint for 2 years because my teeth don't > touch. My surgery is going to be a one piece upper lefort 1...with > sliding genioplasty to fix lip tension. I am worried that I am not > doing the right thing...however, the Drs and I see no other way out > of this splint. I have a great surgeon...and I trust him...I am just > having some doubts. After battling with insurance for a year...I'm > really just exhausted from all of this emotional upheaval. > > I know there are several of you that have had this procedure done. > If there are any words of encouragement I would greatly appreciate > it. Did any of you go into the surgery still in pain...and come out > still hurting? I am told by my Dr that what I feel now...I will > still feel after and I will still need all of my meds. Any > experience would be helpful... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 > > > > Hi, I am new to this group and joined today after finding it when > > doing a Google search. I felt a little calmer after reading some > of > > the threads and conversations going on between the other members. > > > > I am 23 years old and scheduled to have surgery Dec 15th. I have > TMJ > > and arthritis in both joints. Significant breakdown of the joint > on > > my right side. I have been in a splint for over 3 years and have > > gone from Dr to Dr. I take arthritis medication and muscle > relaxers > > everyday...sometimes I have to chase these with a pain > > medication...Butabitol..to make my migraines go away. I have a > > significant gap between my upper and lower teeth...I haven't been > > able to chew food without a splint for 2 years because my teeth > don't > > touch. My surgery is going to be a one piece upper lefort > 1...with > > sliding genioplasty to fix lip tension. I am worried that I am not > > doing the right thing...however, the Drs and I see no other way > out > > of this splint. I have a great surgeon...and I trust him...I am > just > > having some doubts. After battling with insurance for a > year...I'm > > really just exhausted from all of this emotional upheaval. > > > > I know there are several of you that have had this procedure > done. > > If there are any words of encouragement I would greatly appreciate > > it. Did any of you go into the surgery still in pain...and come > out > > still hurting? I am told by my Dr that what I feel now...I will > > still feel after and I will still need all of my meds. Any > > experience would be helpful... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 > > > > Hi, I am new to this group and joined today after finding it when > > doing a Google search. I felt a little calmer after reading some > of > > the threads and conversations going on between the other members. > > > > I am 23 years old and scheduled to have surgery Dec 15th. I have > TMJ > > and arthritis in both joints. Significant breakdown of the joint > on > > my right side. I have been in a splint for over 3 years and have > > gone from Dr to Dr. I take arthritis medication and muscle > relaxers > > everyday...sometimes I have to chase these with a pain > > medication...Butabitol..to make my migraines go away. I have a > > significant gap between my upper and lower teeth...I haven't been > > able to chew food without a splint for 2 years because my teeth > don't > > touch. My surgery is going to be a one piece upper lefort > 1...with > > sliding genioplasty to fix lip tension. I am worried that I am not > > doing the right thing...however, the Drs and I see no other way > out > > of this splint. I have a great surgeon...and I trust him...I am > just > > having some doubts. After battling with insurance for a > year...I'm > > really just exhausted from all of this emotional upheaval. > > > > I know there are several of you that have had this procedure > done. > > If there are any words of encouragement I would greatly appreciate > > it. Did any of you go into the surgery still in pain...and come > out > > still hurting? I am told by my Dr that what I feel now...I will > > still feel after and I will still need all of my meds. Any > > experience would be helpful... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hi , I wish you all the best as well. Hopefully the surgery will improve your TMJ without having to go through all the procedures I did. I've read that about 80-85% of people with TMJ see improvement after orthognathic surgery, 10-15% stay the same and the rest worsen. Since you're quite a bit younger than me, your joints haven't had as much time to be damaged so I hope that by fixing the situation now, you'll never get to where I was. Good luck and I wish for you to be in the 80-85% group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hi , I wish you all the best as well. Hopefully the surgery will improve your TMJ without having to go through all the procedures I did. I've read that about 80-85% of people with TMJ see improvement after orthognathic surgery, 10-15% stay the same and the rest worsen. Since you're quite a bit younger than me, your joints haven't had as much time to be damaged so I hope that by fixing the situation now, you'll never get to where I was. Good luck and I wish for you to be in the 80-85% group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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