Re: How does a speech therapist help with apraxia

[Guest guest]

E mail me if you have any other questions. My son is 4 and he has apraxia

and pdd nos. He makes great strides with speech. He goes to speech he has it

at early childhood and the best most productive speech method we have for him

is a speech therapist that actually made the Baby Babble DVD's. How lucky we

are that she lives in Minnesota which is where we live. She comes to the

house once a week and is in his chair at the table with the straps and we

strap him in. She works with the Kaufman cards and oral motor, she is the

greatest. Talking child is her company and you could even e mail her, her name

is Amy. I also worry too and think will never talk. I don't get it,

he is so smart, that expressive speech is so hard for him. I would try to

find someone in your area that could work with your child in your home. I know

how hard taking them someplace for speech can be. If it weren't for the

straps on the chair wouldn't sit there either. Don't give up, I have

fears

and worry about him talking spontaneously but I do read that children with

these issues don't talk until much later. Try not to worry, easier said than

done, I know.

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Well firstly-- you have to find the RIGHT speech therapist for your son.

Depending on his personality- will greatly depend on what type of SLP you need.

Most 3 1/2 yr olds I know need to have a PLAY BASED speech therapy rather

than something they are just sitting there watching.

In fact-- I've never really heard of a speech session being that of

something that they would WATCH, but would actively participate in.

so that 's my first suggestion-- find a GOOD SLP! Find one that mixes well

with your son and one who will use a play-based approach and one who will take

a few methods that they may know to combine and make one to cater to him.

But on a serious note-- you said that you don't feel he will ever talk.

Well, I dont' believe that-- and I believe what you're seeing in him IS the

beginning of a speech pattern for him, and he quite literally needs to be

IMMERSED in a speech program that will help him. That doesn't mean he needs to

have

constant therapy, but he needs to have speech practice thrown at him at all

avenues of his life-- through play time, through time with mom and dad or

siblings, interacting with others etc.

I would most definitely seek a professional that is willing to work with him

at least 3 times a week, and help you learn an approach to work with him on

those days that you are not in a formal session

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I also meant to say -- that for a child that DOES have Apraxia, without

speech intervention, in all seriousness, you will NOT get a child that will be

a

fluent speaker. A speech program is a NECESSITY for a child with Apraxia--

becky

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 3:16:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jennyjudy@... writes:

She comes to the

house once a week and is in his chair at the table with the straps and

we

strap him in. She

WOW-- see this is a perfect example of how different children will react

differently. My son has an amazing personality and would do anything for his

therapists, but if they ever strapped him in-- he would NEVER comply-- it would

freak him out.

Your son doesn't mind being strapped in?

becky

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 3:16:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jennyjudy@... writes:

Don't give up, I have fears

and worry about him talking spontaneously but I do read that children with

these issues don't talk until much later. Try not to worry, easier said than

done, I know.

Well, this is something that our SLP and I were discussing just this past

Friday.

A specific time for speech is where the kids will direct their thoughts into

ONE AREA of their life for a short, concentrated time (whether it be 30min

or 1 hr)

That takes considerably LESS physical and mental strength as something like

Spontaneous Speech.

For Dyspraxic/Apraxic kids to gain Spontaneous Speech-- it takes a great

amount of effort and is physically/mentally etc exhausting for them. Through

the practice and immersion way of helping them with their speech, it will form

the motor planning pathways that they need-- but it will have to be something

that is PRACTICED all the time, and it really does take a lot of time for it

to see in the end played out in spontaneous speech.

It WILL happen-- but it will also take a great amount of time and effort to

see it happen. It's similar to when a child learns to read. Some children

really just " click " right away and they become voracious readers. For others,

they take a longer amount of time to actually become " readers " and have it

" click " . This is how it is for Apraxic children-- it just has to click for

them

and go from the practice during therapy way, to having it become second

nature with spontaneous speech.

If a child is NOT getting speech therapy or is NOT in a speech program on a

regular basis-- I have to say that they won't be able to create the motor

pathways that are needed in order to ever get anywhere-- so it's vital that they

are getting SOME sort of speech help-- whether it be through an SLP (which

is, in my opinion, obvious the best approach in addition to mom and dad helping

at home), or through a program that the parents get at home, etc.

Becky

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 5:21:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

cs-mom@... writes:

The first one strapped him to a chair

and it was so traumatic for him that ever since then he refuses to

sit in a chair anywhere. ( dinner, restaurants, ABA, preschool,

etc.)

quite honestly-- I can't say that I blame him one bit!

The other mother mentioning a therapist strapping to a chair was the first

time I've ever heard of this happening.

Our SLP is just one amazing woman-- and all these posts just keep showing me

how much we want to hold onto her for as long as we possibly can!

I'll have to ask her about the strapping to the chair thing-- because I

don't think it's something she would ever do, and I'm not sure she's ever heard

of it either, but then again-- she's been at this a LOT longer than I have. LOL

I would think that a therapist-- a GOOD one-- whether they be a SLP or PT or

OT would be able to keep the attention of the child without the need to strap

them to the chair--but maybe that's just my naiivte speaking on this issue.

I would think that the therapists have several different ways to hold the

child's attention, and if they won't sit still-- to find an activity that they

can utilize while the child is moving.

becky

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 5:22:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

Are you sure, look at Janice's son.

I could have SWORN that Mark has had some sort of speech intervention--

hasn't he?

I could be wrong--

bek

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Have you read the Late Talker book . . . one can be found at your

local library. It gives a great deal of resources for someone

indecisive about where to go for help. It also stresses if your son

is autistic not to use the prompt method but ABA.

Who is Qualified To Diagnosis Childhood Apraxia of Speech?

by , Ph.D., CCC-SLP

Speech-language pathologists are the professionals who diagnose and

treat disorders of speech, language, and swallowing. Thus, the

assessment and diagnosis of apraxia of speech, as well as all other

speech sound disorders, are within the scope of professional

responsibilities of SLPs. While other professionals, such as

physicians, educators, occupational or physical therapists, may

provide essential information that contributes to the assessment,

speech-language pathologists have the responsibility for integrating

assessment results and for differentiating apraxia of speech from

other speech and/or language disorders.

Articulation

Language

Two separate entities to speech. I requested speech eval thinking it

meant both areas, but you must specify both areas (at least in my area

of Essex County, NJ) to be evaluated. Otherwise, you'll be denied

services for speech therapy when your child really needs language

therapy.

If your speech therapist does not have additional expertise with

language-learning disorders (reading), then I would highly recommend

that you find one who does. There are other " tests " available which

could be administered to tease out specific weak areas essential for

reading acquisition including auditory comprehension, visual memory,

auditory memory, etc. If auditory processing is an issue, you would

need to consult with a certified audiologist who specializes in

auditory processing testing.

Never assume the CST will do an overall exam. They do the bare

minimum. It's best to go to a private eval with your concerns. They

will discuss your options and tests that should be given. You don't

want to over test your child either. Learn the acronyms b/c you'll be

put to the test on IEP DAY.

Just my two cents!

Joanne Mulholland

P.S. Sorry to ramble on but my son is now 11 and doing very well. I

got him help at a very early age and below is my data of what took

place. If your son is apraxic it is a slow process but with

biomedical treatment and other therapies he is able to do what normal

11 year old boys are doing.

This was my timetable for my apraxic son which a neurological disorder

of motor planning.

Age 3 and younger:

Re: Time To Sing--music CD

http://www.cfcp.org/eshop/10Browse.asp

Center for Creative Play www.cfcp.org

Go to www.linguisystems.com and click on Topic Index. click on

apraxia and you will find numerous materials to purchase.

Easy Does it for Apraxia Preschool

I would give the workbook a 4 out of 5 stars, but I would also look

at oral motor planning activities. Such as blowing whistles, kazoos

or bubbles, chewing starbursts or marshmallows, blopens were great

art projects while strengthening the mouth muscles.

I also invested in the Kaufman Apraxia Cards sets 1 and 2. It took

close to two years before we moved on to other things.

OT activities: motor planning activities, hand.finger grip

strengthening, sequencing games, signs of limb apraxia? Do you have

a Little Gym near you. www.thelittlegym.com

or even a gymnastics school that works with preschool disabled.

Check your local area . . . ask the OT or special ed teacher if she

knows of any gymboree type places.

Also I found swimming, jumping on a trampoline, scooters, wheel

barrow races, leap frog, and jump rope all increased my son's weak

muscles. He also enjoyed the bigem balls when he rolled on top his

hands would have to stop him from falling. Little did he know he

was working on his arm muscles.

Headsprout Early Reading Program (home use)

www.headsprout.com

Kindergarten-2nd grade

Earobics

Online Phonics Program

www.clicknread.com

Oxford Learning Center www.oxfordlearning.com

Here are some tidbits from their website:

Oxford Learning's programs get to the root of the problem and

correct it for lasting, far-reaching results.

Traditional evaluations look at children through statistical, two-

dimensional testing that ignores the depth and complexity of your

child's mind at work.

In order to accurately measure your child's potential, we assess the

factors at work in his or her life, as well as how he or she is

attempting to deal with these challenges. We do this by measuring

skills and potential in an exhaustive, yet relaxed manner.

We examine such areas as —

visual and verbal learning strengths/weaknesses

oral language levels

nonverbal intelligence

cognition — how your child learns

test-taking ability

academic achievement in reading, spelling, writing, listening and

math

Dynamic Diagnostic Assessment™ clearly identifies any weaknesses

your child may have in perceptual abilities. We use this assessment

to design a curriculum that will give your child the best possible

opportunity for success.

From their assessment I ended up seeing Dorinne at The

Center and corrected hypersensitivities in his left ear.

http://www.soundingreading.com

Program

mood Bell V/V , Seeing Stars.

PACE www.processingskills.com with Master the Code (spelling/reading

program) PACE is a congnitive training program that worked well

with my 10 year old.

Developmental vision therapy = worked on his vision processing and

eye tracking look at www.covd.org to find a provider near you and

more information on 20/20 vision and vision therapy.

Please also do not forget to speak to a developmental pediatrician as

well as an ot who specializes in sensory dysfunction and developmental

optometrist who specializes in vision therapy www.covd.org

[Guest guest]

It is a booster seat with a strap, nothing invasive. It is just hard for

some children to concentrate unless they are sitting still and concentrating.

A good speech therapist should know of this technique. Once they are in the

chair they are fine, if my child cried or couldn't handle it I would not make

him sit there, it was just a suggestion. You have to do what you have to do

to get the job done, if the therapy cannot be done otherwise that is the way

it is. It is not like the child is tied down, our therapist is excellent

and even told me we could try in the living room, but too many toys and

distractions. Don't judge something until you try it. Our therapist does hold

our

child's attention beautifully, it just makes the child's job easier.

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I will have to do some more checking around. We've been through 4

therapists, and no results. The first one strapped him to a chair

and it was so traumatic for him that ever since then he refuses to

sit in a chair anywhere. ( dinner, restaurants, ABA, preschool,

etc.) He used to do so well sitting at ABA and restaurants and all

of that, until we took him to her.) So I guess I'll start back at

square one. Looking around some more. It doesn't help that our

insurance doesn't cover any of it, and we are nearly broke.

>

> E mail me if you have any other questions. My son is 4 and he has

apraxia

> and pdd nos. He makes great strides with speech. He goes to

speech he has it

> at early childhood and the best most productive speech method we

have for him

> is a speech therapist that actually made the Baby Babble DVD's.

How lucky we

> are that she lives in Minnesota which is where we live. She comes

to the

> house once a week and is in his chair at the table with the

straps and we

> strap him in. She works with the Kaufman cards and oral motor,

she is the

> greatest. Talking child is her company and you could even e mail

her, her name

> is Amy. I also worry too and think will never talk. I

don't get it,

> he is so smart, that expressive speech is so hard for him. I

would try to

> find someone in your area that could work with your child in your

home. I know

> how hard taking them someplace for speech can be. If it weren't

for the

> straps on the chair wouldn't sit there either. Don't give

up, I have fears

> and worry about him talking spontaneously but I do read that

children with

> these issues don't talk until much later. Try not to worry,

easier said than

> done, I know.

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you sure, look at Janice's son.

>

> I also meant to say -- that for a child that DOES have Apraxia,

without

> speech intervention, in all seriousness, you will NOT get a child

that will be a

> fluent speaker. A speech program is a NECESSITY for a child with

Apraxia--

>

> becky

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 6:57:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

can't see allowing that unless she too was going to be strapped in.

::::::::::::::::::giggling:::::::::::::::: at the very thought of what sort

of session THAT would be with both the therapist AND the child strapped in!

LOL

good visual that I needed for a good laugh today

Becky

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What other ways? Just curious. I totally don't believe in the typical ABA

where it is hours and the child gets very upset. It is 45 minutes. I would

rather get the intense therapy that these children need rather than try to

figure

out other ways and waste time. Maybe it is also different seeing as my son

is on the autism spectrum and he needs more structure. It was never an issue,

I guess each child has a different personality and I certainly wouldn't put

my son in a situation where he was agitated or against it. I guess in life we

all have to go through things that are not optimal. I wish he would just sit

there on his own, but he needs this for right now and it is to help him, not

harm him in any way.

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We didnt have any speech therapy before my sons started talking. The long

waiting list took us searching for other methods and boimedical and diet

approaches basically all on our own. They had their first assessment done 9

months ago and were at about a 1 year 8 months level and now 9 months later

it is our turn for therapy and, at a second speech therapy assessment

session one of my twins was assessed at 4 years 4 months (his actual age)

and the other was at 3 years 9 months and the therapists are scratching

their heads, wondering why we are there. I know it is different for all our

kids. In my opinion, speech therapy will help, but it doesnt mean speech

cannot be obtained without it. Biomedical, brain mapping, diet, and some

other interventions and supplements was the formula for our kids.

Re: [ ] How does a speech therapist help with

apraxia

>

> In a message dated 1/21/2008 3:16:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> jennyjudy@... writes:

>

> Don't give up, I have fears

> and worry about him talking spontaneously but I do read that children

> with

> these issues don't talk until much later. Try not to worry, easier said

> than

> done, I know.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Well, this is something that our SLP and I were discussing just this past

> Friday.

> A specific time for speech is where the kids will direct their thoughts

> into

> ONE AREA of their life for a short, concentrated time (whether it be 30min

> or 1 hr)

> That takes considerably LESS physical and mental strength as something

> like

> Spontaneous Speech.

>

> For Dyspraxic/Apraxic kids to gain Spontaneous Speech-- it takes a great

> amount of effort and is physically/mentally etc exhausting for them.

> Through

> the practice and immersion way of helping them with their speech, it will

> form

> the motor planning pathways that they need-- but it will have to be

> something

> that is PRACTICED all the time, and it really does take a lot of time for

> it

> to see in the end played out in spontaneous speech.

>

> It WILL happen-- but it will also take a great amount of time and effort

> to

> see it happen. It's similar to when a child learns to read. Some children

> really just " click " right away and they become voracious readers. For

> others,

> they take a longer amount of time to actually become " readers " and have it

> " click " . This is how it is for Apraxic children-- it just has to click

> for them

> and go from the practice during therapy way, to having it become second

> nature with spontaneous speech.

>

> If a child is NOT getting speech therapy or is NOT in a speech program on

> a

> regular basis-- I have to say that they won't be able to create the motor

> pathways that are needed in order to ever get anywhere-- so it's vital

> that they

> are getting SOME sort of speech help-- whether it be through an SLP (which

> is, in my opinion, obvious the best approach in addition to mom and dad

> helping

> at home), or through a program that the parents get at home, etc.

>

>

>

> Becky

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't see allowing that unless she too was going to be strapped in.

>

>

> In a message dated 1/21/2008 5:21:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> cs-mom@... writes:

>

> The first one strapped him to a chair

> and it was so traumatic for him that ever since then he refuses to

> sit in a chair anywhere. ( dinner, restaurants, ABA, preschool,

> etc.)

>

>

>

>

>

> quite honestly-- I can't say that I blame him one bit!

> The other mother mentioning a therapist strapping to a chair was

the first

> time I've ever heard of this happening.

>

> Our SLP is just one amazing woman-- and all these posts just keep

showing me

> how much we want to hold onto her for as long as we possibly can!

> I'll have to ask her about the strapping to the chair thing--

because I

> don't think it's something she would ever do, and I'm not sure

she's ever heard

> of it either, but then again-- she's been at this a LOT longer than

I have. LOL

>

> I would think that a therapist-- a GOOD one-- whether they be a SLP

or PT or

> OT would be able to keep the attention of the child without the

need to strap

> them to the chair--but maybe that's just my naiivte speaking on

this issue.

> I would think that the therapists have several different ways to

hold the

> child's attention, and if they won't sit still-- to find an

activity that they

> can utilize while the child is moving.

>

> becky

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Congrats on helping your boys so very much. You are my hero!

>

> We didnt have any speech therapy before my sons started talking.

The long

> waiting list took us searching for other methods and boimedical and

diet

> approaches basically all on our own. They had their first

assessment done 9

> months ago and were at about a 1 year 8 months level and now 9

months later

> it is our turn for therapy and, at a second speech therapy

assessment

> session one of my twins was assessed at 4 years 4 months (his

actual age)

> and the other was at 3 years 9 months and the therapists are

scratching

> their heads, wondering why we are there. I know it is different for

all our

> kids. In my opinion, speech therapy will help, but it doesnt mean

speech

> cannot be obtained without it. Biomedical, brain mapping, diet, and

some

> other interventions and supplements was the formula for our kids.

>

> Re: [ ] How does a speech therapist help

with

> apraxia

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/21/2008 3:16:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > jennyjudy@... writes:

> >

> > Don't give up, I have fears

> > and worry about him talking spontaneously but I do read that

children

> > with

> > these issues don't talk until much later. Try not to worry,

easier said

> > than

> > done, I know.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Well, this is something that our SLP and I were discussing just

this past

> > Friday.

> > A specific time for speech is where the kids will direct their

thoughts

> > into

> > ONE AREA of their life for a short, concentrated time (whether it

be 30min

> > or 1 hr)

> > That takes considerably LESS physical and mental strength as

something

> > like

> > Spontaneous Speech.

> >

> > For Dyspraxic/Apraxic kids to gain Spontaneous Speech-- it takes

a great

> > amount of effort and is physically/mentally etc exhausting for

them.

> > Through

> > the practice and immersion way of helping them with their speech,

it will

> > form

> > the motor planning pathways that they need-- but it will have to

be

> > something

> > that is PRACTICED all the time, and it really does take a lot of

time for

> > it

> > to see in the end played out in spontaneous speech.

> >

> > It WILL happen-- but it will also take a great amount of time and

effort

> > to

> > see it happen. It's similar to when a child learns to read. Some

children

> > really just " click " right away and they become voracious readers.

For

> > others,

> > they take a longer amount of time to actually become " readers "

and have it

> > " click " . This is how it is for Apraxic children-- it just has to

click

> > for them

> > and go from the practice during therapy way, to having it become

second

> > nature with spontaneous speech.

> >

> > If a child is NOT getting speech therapy or is NOT in a speech

program on

> > a

> > regular basis-- I have to say that they won't be able to create

the motor

> > pathways that are needed in order to ever get anywhere-- so it's

vital

> > that they

> > are getting SOME sort of speech help-- whether it be through an

SLP (which

> > is, in my opinion, obvious the best approach in addition to mom

and dad

> > helping

> > at home), or through a program that the parents get at home, etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

> >

> > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

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NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I just think there are other ways but hey, if it worked and he was

not upset then good for you guys.

>

> It is a booster seat with a strap, nothing invasive. It is just

hard for

> some children to concentrate unless they are sitting still and

concentrating.

> A good speech therapist should know of this technique. Once they

are in the

> chair they are fine, if my child cried or couldn't handle it I

would not make

> him sit there, it was just a suggestion. You have to do what you

have to do

> to get the job done, if the therapy cannot be done otherwise that

is the way

> it is. It is not like the child is tied down, our therapist is

excellent

> and even told me we could try in the living room, but too many

toys and

> distractions. Don't judge something until you try it. Our

therapist does hold our

> child's attention beautifully, it just makes the child's job

easier.

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We used music and just had a few bad sessions of runaway and stuck

with it and got him where he needed to be. Also, I could not be

around as he kept trying to get me to give in and we did not want me

to take the therapist authority away.

>

> What other ways? Just curious. I totally don't believe in the

typical ABA

> where it is hours and the child gets very upset. It is 45 minutes.

I would

> rather get the intense therapy that these children need rather than

try to figure

> out other ways and waste time. Maybe it is also different seeing

as my son

> is on the autism spectrum and he needs more structure. It was

never an issue,

> I guess each child has a different personality and I certainly

wouldn't put

> my son in a situation where he was agitated or against it. I guess

in life we

> all have to go through things that are not optimal. I wish he

would just sit

> there on his own, but he needs this for right now and it is to

help him, not

> harm him in any way.

>

>

>

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My daughter, Olivia, dyspraxic, didn't speak until after intense speech

therapy. At the age of 2 1/2 she had her own little language, she was

locked in abody and unable to communicate. Being her mother, I LEARNED

her little language and was able to understand her. Olivia is 4 1/2

now, talking up a storm, she has a problem still with word retrival but

other then that hats off to ST. See Olivia on www.my

myspace.com/denylammardo-to me her voice is beautiful!!!!!

Deny

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Is yeast an issue?

>

> What other ways? Just curious. I totally don't believe in the

typical ABA

> where it is hours and the child gets very upset. It is 45 minutes.

I would

> rather get the intense therapy that these children need rather than

try to figure

> out other ways and waste time. Maybe it is also different seeing

as my son

> is on the autism spectrum and he needs more structure. It was

never an issue,

> I guess each child has a different personality and I certainly

wouldn't put

> my son in a situation where he was agitated or against it. I guess

in life we

> all have to go through things that are not optimal. I wish he

would just sit

> there on his own, but he needs this for right now and it is to

help him, not

> harm him in any way.

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That was some seriosly good therapy. She sounds terrific, as she is I

am sure!

>

>

> My daughter, Olivia, dyspraxic, didn't speak until after intense

speech

> therapy. At the age of 2 1/2 she had her own little language, she

was

> locked in abody and unable to communicate. Being her mother, I

LEARNED

> her little language and was able to understand her. Olivia is 4 1/2

> now, talking up a storm, she has a problem still with word retrival

but

> other then that hats off to ST. See Olivia on www.my

> myspace.com/denylammardo-to me her voice is beautiful!!!!!

> Deny

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What is brain mapping?

[ ] Re: How does a speech therapist help with

apraxia

Congrats on helping your boys so very much. You are my hero!

>

> We didnt have any speech therapy before my sons started talking.

The long

> waiting list took us searching for other methods and boimedical and

diet

> approaches basically all on our own. They had their first

assessment done 9

> months ago and were at about a 1 year 8 months level and now 9

months later

> it is our turn for therapy and, at a second speech therapy

assessment

> session one of my twins was assessed at 4 years 4 months (his

actual age)

> and the other was at 3 years 9 months and the therapists are

scratching

> their heads, wondering why we are there. I know it is different for

all our

> kids. In my opinion, speech therapy will help, but it doesnt mean

speech

> cannot be obtained without it. Biomedical, brain mapping, diet, and

some

> other interventions and supplements was the formula for our kids.

>

> Re: [ ] How does a speech therapist help

with

> apraxia

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 1/21/2008 3:16:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > jennyjudy@... writes:

> >

> > Don't give up, I have fears

> > and worry about him talking spontaneously but I do read that

children

> > with

> > these issues don't talk until much later. Try not to worry,

easier said

> > than

> > done, I know.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Well, this is something that our SLP and I were discussing just

this past

> > Friday.

> > A specific time for speech is where the kids will direct their

thoughts

> > into

> > ONE AREA of their life for a short, concentrated time (whether it

be 30min

> > or 1 hr)

> > That takes considerably LESS physical and mental strength as

something

> > like

> > Spontaneous Speech.

> >

> > For Dyspraxic/Apraxic kids to gain Spontaneous Speech-- it takes

a great

> > amount of effort and is physically/mentally etc exhausting for

them.

> > Through

> > the practice and immersion way of helping them with their speech,

it will

> > form

> > the motor planning pathways that they need-- but it will have to

be

> > something

> > that is PRACTICED all the time, and it really does take a lot of

time for

> > it

> > to see in the end played out in spontaneous speech.

> >

> > It WILL happen-- but it will also take a great amount of time and

effort

> > to

> > see it happen. It's similar to when a child learns to read. Some

children

> > really just " click " right away and they become voracious readers.

For

> > others,

> > they take a longer amount of time to actually become " readers "

and have it

> > " click " . This is how it is for Apraxic children-- it just has to

click

> > for them

> > and go from the practice during therapy way, to having it become

second

> > nature with spontaneous speech.

> >

> > If a child is NOT getting speech therapy or is NOT in a speech

program on

> > a

> > regular basis-- I have to say that they won't be able to create

the motor

> > pathways that are needed in order to ever get anywhere-- so it's

vital

> > that they

> > are getting SOME sort of speech help-- whether it be through an

SLP (which

> > is, in my opinion, obvious the best approach in addition to mom

and dad

> > helping

> > at home), or through a program that the parents get at home, etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

> >

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