Re: 3 months post, stabbing jaw pain, earaches, restricted opening

[Guest guest]

katie, tmj can be both caused or cured by the surgery. with lower

advancement the muscles fight back and pull the condyles into the

fossa causing pain. it can ease with time as the muscles stretch back

out. the banding can help to hold the condyles out of the fossa while

the muscles readjust but muscle memory is a potent force. you might

want to avoid the head butting thing cuz i don't think thats good on a

healthy jaw! the doc will probably do a radiograph on you to check to

see if the cartiledge that separates the condyle and fossa is pinched

or dislocated. I haven't a clue what they do to fix it but i've heard

it's not that big a deal. good luck/eric

> Hi Guys,

>

> I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day pains i

> have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32 pm

> and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a visit

> a week from this coming Wed.

>

> He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be easy

> healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he said

> possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree. they

> want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that folks

> who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery and

> a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with so

> i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> it's possible.

>

> The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has head

> butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once just

> 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful both

> times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself that my

> jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry about

> it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with how i

> am feeling.

>

> I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> situation as well.

>

> Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

>

[Guest guest]

katie, tmj can be both caused or cured by the surgery. with lower

advancement the muscles fight back and pull the condyles into the

fossa causing pain. it can ease with time as the muscles stretch back

out. the banding can help to hold the condyles out of the fossa while

the muscles readjust but muscle memory is a potent force. you might

want to avoid the head butting thing cuz i don't think thats good on a

healthy jaw! the doc will probably do a radiograph on you to check to

see if the cartiledge that separates the condyle and fossa is pinched

or dislocated. I haven't a clue what they do to fix it but i've heard

it's not that big a deal. good luck/eric

> Hi Guys,

>

> I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day pains i

> have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32 pm

> and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a visit

> a week from this coming Wed.

>

> He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be easy

> healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he said

> possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree. they

> want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that folks

> who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery and

> a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with so

> i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> it's possible.

>

> The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has head

> butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once just

> 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful both

> times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself that my

> jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry about

> it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with how i

> am feeling.

>

> I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> situation as well.

>

> Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

>

[Guest guest]

thanks , Radiograph, that is what i think he said. The

headbutting always comes as a surprise, of course, hard to keep a

12 month old away from your head and face and the pain that is

associated with the occurance..... OUCH. I think Marsha had a

problem in this area (slippage), but i could be wrong. As a

teacher, i can't imagine anything being done on me that would be

related to another (even minor) surgery, as my life depends on

paycheck, which depends on talking! We'll see next week.

> > Hi Guys,

> >

> > I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day

pains i

> > have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32

pm

> > and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> > night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> > surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a

visit

> > a week from this coming Wed.

> >

> > He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be

easy

> > healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he

said

> > possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> > determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree.

they

> > want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> > some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that

folks

> > who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery

and

> > a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with

so

> > i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> > it's possible.

> >

> > The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has

head

> > butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once

just

> > 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful

both

> > times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself

that my

> > jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry

about

> > it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with

how i

> > am feeling.

> >

> > I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> > restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> > situation as well.

> >

> > Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> > Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

> >

[Guest guest]

thanks , Radiograph, that is what i think he said. The

headbutting always comes as a surprise, of course, hard to keep a

12 month old away from your head and face and the pain that is

associated with the occurance..... OUCH. I think Marsha had a

problem in this area (slippage), but i could be wrong. As a

teacher, i can't imagine anything being done on me that would be

related to another (even minor) surgery, as my life depends on

paycheck, which depends on talking! We'll see next week.

> > Hi Guys,

> >

> > I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day

pains i

> > have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32

pm

> > and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> > night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> > surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a

visit

> > a week from this coming Wed.

> >

> > He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be

easy

> > healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he

said

> > possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> > determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree.

they

> > want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> > some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that

folks

> > who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery

and

> > a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with

so

> > i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> > it's possible.

> >

> > The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has

head

> > butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once

just

> > 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful

both

> > times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself

that my

> > jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry

about

> > it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with

how i

> > am feeling.

> >

> > I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> > restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> > situation as well.

> >

> > Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> > Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

> >

[Guest guest]

katie i think i understand what you were talking about. last night the

cat was holding the covers down and when i pulled them up Wham-right

in the cheek-ouch! maybe you can schedule something for christmas

break. good luck/eric

> > > Hi Guys,

> > >

> > > I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day

> pains i

> > > have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32

> pm

> > > and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> > > night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> > > surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a

> visit

> > > a week from this coming Wed.

> > >

> > > He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be

> easy

> > > healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he

> said

> > > possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> > > determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree.

> they

> > > want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> > > some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that

> folks

> > > who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery

> and

> > > a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with

> so

> > > i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> > > it's possible.

> > >

> > > The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has

> head

> > > butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once

> just

> > > 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful

> both

> > > times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself

> that my

> > > jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry

> about

> > > it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with

> how i

> > > am feeling.

> > >

> > > I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> > > restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> > > situation as well.

> > >

> > > Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> > > Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

> > >

[Guest guest]

katie i think i understand what you were talking about. last night the

cat was holding the covers down and when i pulled them up Wham-right

in the cheek-ouch! maybe you can schedule something for christmas

break. good luck/eric

> > > Hi Guys,

> > >

> > > I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day

> pains i

> > > have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32

> pm

> > > and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> > > night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> > > surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a

> visit

> > > a week from this coming Wed.

> > >

> > > He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be

> easy

> > > healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he

> said

> > > possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> > > determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree.

> they

> > > want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> > > some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that

> folks

> > > who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery

> and

> > > a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with

> so

> > > i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> > > it's possible.

> > >

> > > The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has

> head

> > > butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once

> just

> > > 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful

> both

> > > times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself

> that my

> > > jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry

> about

> > > it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with

> how i

> > > am feeling.

> > >

> > > I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> > > restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> > > situation as well.

> > >

> > > Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> > > Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

> > >

[Guest guest]

Kate,

This sounds an awful lot like what I went through, I posted a number

of things under the subject Joint Pain if you want to do a search. I

had a dislocated cartiladge which I managed to get back in place

through phisical therapy and exercise with a Therabite. I was only

able to open 12 mm, I am at about 32 now. It was extraordinarily

painful so I hope you do not have to go through this. keep us posted.

Marsha

> Hi Guys,

>

> I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day pains

i

> have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32 pm

> and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a visit

> a week from this coming Wed.

>

> He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be easy

> healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he said

> possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree. they

> want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that folks

> who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery and

> a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with so

> i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> it's possible.

>

> The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has head

> butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once just

> 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful

both

> times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself that

my

> jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry about

> it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with how

i

> am feeling.

>

> I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> situation as well.

>

> Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

>

[Guest guest]

Kate,

This sounds an awful lot like what I went through, I posted a number

of things under the subject Joint Pain if you want to do a search. I

had a dislocated cartiladge which I managed to get back in place

through phisical therapy and exercise with a Therabite. I was only

able to open 12 mm, I am at about 32 now. It was extraordinarily

painful so I hope you do not have to go through this. keep us posted.

Marsha

> Hi Guys,

>

> I tried to speak with my OS today as the once or twice a day pains

i

> have been getting are still constant. I am writing this at 7:32 pm

> and realize that for sure, the ear pain is definitely worse at

> night. My OS was in San Fran, so i spoke with the assisting

> surgeon. they want to see me on Monday, i was scheduled for a visit

> a week from this coming Wed.

>

> He said it may be a TMJ related thing. I asked if this may be easy

> healing or something i have to deal with for a long time, he said

> possibly, but that an over the phone conversation was hard to

> determine what was wrong with me without seeing me. i agree. they

> want to do a manual in the mouth, and outer exam as well as

> some " radio-something " look. I THINK i have read here that folks

> who had TMJ there was no guarantee of it being cured by surgery and

> a possibility of it getting worse. i never had it to begin with so

> i am wondering if you can GET IT from surgery. seems to me like

> it's possible.

>

> The other thing that has happened is that my 12 month old has head

> butted me twice in the side jaw, both times on same side, once just

> 2 days ago and once about month and a half ago. It was painful

both

> times and i heard something both times, but convinced myself that

my

> jaw bones have met the solidifying time frame, so don't worry about

> it. Now i am wondering it those bumps have anything to do with how

i

> am feeling.

>

> I also think being in wires all the time except for eating has

> restricted my muscle use to a degree that may be affecting this

> situation as well.

>

> Possible to get TMJ post surgery if never had it before?

> Do you think head but can cause joint/ear/dislocation pain?

>