Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > Dan wrote: >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of >> our > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > feel it > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > " surgery > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > need to > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > showing no signs of slowing down. > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > age? Take a guess. > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > awed voice. LOL > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > I. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > Dan wrote: >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of >> our > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > feel it > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > " surgery > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > need to > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > showing no signs of slowing down. > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > age? Take a guess. > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > awed voice. LOL > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > I. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Roger that....there's a lot to be said for stirring things up each morning. The day goes better and I have more energy to deal with than I do when I just go " sofa-city " for a couple of days. It's not lifting weights that hard. Nor trying to walk at a 10% grade at 4.5MPH that's hard. Getting up and getting in the mood to hit the gym is what's really hard!!<G> After I get there...it's just as natural as coffee in the AM; can't do much without it. Dan rny10.13.98 EdWaits,MD-Atlanta Re: Good grief. I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > Dan wrote: >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of >> our > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > feel it > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > " surgery > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > need to > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > showing no signs of slowing down. > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > age? Take a guess. > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > awed voice. LOL > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > I. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Roger that....there's a lot to be said for stirring things up each morning. The day goes better and I have more energy to deal with than I do when I just go " sofa-city " for a couple of days. It's not lifting weights that hard. Nor trying to walk at a 10% grade at 4.5MPH that's hard. Getting up and getting in the mood to hit the gym is what's really hard!!<G> After I get there...it's just as natural as coffee in the AM; can't do much without it. Dan rny10.13.98 EdWaits,MD-Atlanta Re: Good grief. I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > Dan wrote: >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of >> our > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > feel it > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > " surgery > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > need to > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > showing no signs of slowing down. > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > age? Take a guess. > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > awed voice. LOL > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > I. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I am a " need to start exercising " person myself. I have been a slacker so far, but I feel GUILTY about that, not proud. I have been extremely lucky in that I have lost all my excess weight despite my sluggardly tendencies *ducks flying tomatoes*, but I know full well that I can't count on keeping it off if I don't get going on some regular exercise one of these days. And I AM going to do that, beginning with some regular walking once the temperatures outside are more humane. In the meantime, I sit in awe of people who are really disciplined about exercise, especially ones who actually go to gyms. Gyms scare the living daylights out of me! I would have NO IDEA whatsoever to do in one. That makes me feel dumb and embarrassed...but it does NOT stop me from enjoying stories like Dan's. It's like hearing about another world, one that is completely alien to me, but fascinating. :oD The idea of actually criticizing someone for talking about exercise is just ridiculous to me. Exercise is GOOD for people...ALL people, not just postops. I know DSers who tell me that they don't have to exercise to keep their weight off after that procedure, but I think I'd want to exercise even if I had an ironclad guarantee that I was never going to regain whether I exercised or not. I want some MUSCLE TONE, goshdarn it! What the heck was that person smoking? *shakes head* Sharon > I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and > feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. > If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't > bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I am a " need to start exercising " person myself. I have been a slacker so far, but I feel GUILTY about that, not proud. I have been extremely lucky in that I have lost all my excess weight despite my sluggardly tendencies *ducks flying tomatoes*, but I know full well that I can't count on keeping it off if I don't get going on some regular exercise one of these days. And I AM going to do that, beginning with some regular walking once the temperatures outside are more humane. In the meantime, I sit in awe of people who are really disciplined about exercise, especially ones who actually go to gyms. Gyms scare the living daylights out of me! I would have NO IDEA whatsoever to do in one. That makes me feel dumb and embarrassed...but it does NOT stop me from enjoying stories like Dan's. It's like hearing about another world, one that is completely alien to me, but fascinating. :oD The idea of actually criticizing someone for talking about exercise is just ridiculous to me. Exercise is GOOD for people...ALL people, not just postops. I know DSers who tell me that they don't have to exercise to keep their weight off after that procedure, but I think I'd want to exercise even if I had an ironclad guarantee that I was never going to regain whether I exercised or not. I want some MUSCLE TONE, goshdarn it! What the heck was that person smoking? *shakes head* Sharon > I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and > feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. > If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't > bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Sharon, One of the things that helped me make exercise a priority in my life was hiring a trainer. I rationalized the cost by reminding myself that I was spending way less on food and that it was an investment in my health. I had no idea what to do in a gym either and was overwhelmed by all the machines and weight equipment. For the time that I had a trainer, I learned so much about how our bodies work and how important the exercise techniques are. The trainer was very knowledgeable and worked with me to help me understand the things that were going on in my body. As I worked out with the weights, I started seeing my body change. I see definition in muscle now where before there was atrophy. I recently had to " break up " with my trainer because it was time for me to go it on my own but the fundamentals had been instilled in me and I still work out on a regular basis after more than a year. I know that must be a habit for the rest of my life (even though it still is hard to get motivated sometimes) in order to keep the good health I got back after surgery. Changing our perceptions about things helps to make it stick and it sure was that way with exercise for me. Hugs, Pat B. Re: Good grief. I am a " need to start exercising " person myself. I have been a slacker so far, but I feel GUILTY about that, not proud. I have been extremely lucky in that I have lost all my excess weight despite my sluggardly tendencies *ducks flying tomatoes*, but I know full well that I can't count on keeping it off if I don't get going on some regular exercise one of these days. And I AM going to do that, beginning with some regular walking once the temperatures outside are more humane. In the meantime, I sit in awe of people who are really disciplined about exercise, especially ones who actually go to gyms. Gyms scare the living daylights out of me! I would have NO IDEA whatsoever to do in one. That makes me feel dumb and embarrassed...but it does NOT stop me from enjoying stories like Dan's. It's like hearing about another world, one that is completely alien to me, but fascinating. :oD The idea of actually criticizing someone for talking about exercise is just ridiculous to me. Exercise is GOOD for people...ALL people, not just postops. I know DSers who tell me that they don't have to exercise to keep their weight off after that procedure, but I think I'd want to exercise even if I had an ironclad guarantee that I was never going to regain whether I exercised or not. I want some MUSCLE TONE, goshdarn it! What the heck was that person smoking? *shakes head* Sharon > I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and > feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. > If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't > bad. Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Sharon, One of the things that helped me make exercise a priority in my life was hiring a trainer. I rationalized the cost by reminding myself that I was spending way less on food and that it was an investment in my health. I had no idea what to do in a gym either and was overwhelmed by all the machines and weight equipment. For the time that I had a trainer, I learned so much about how our bodies work and how important the exercise techniques are. The trainer was very knowledgeable and worked with me to help me understand the things that were going on in my body. As I worked out with the weights, I started seeing my body change. I see definition in muscle now where before there was atrophy. I recently had to " break up " with my trainer because it was time for me to go it on my own but the fundamentals had been instilled in me and I still work out on a regular basis after more than a year. I know that must be a habit for the rest of my life (even though it still is hard to get motivated sometimes) in order to keep the good health I got back after surgery. Changing our perceptions about things helps to make it stick and it sure was that way with exercise for me. Hugs, Pat B. Re: Good grief. I am a " need to start exercising " person myself. I have been a slacker so far, but I feel GUILTY about that, not proud. I have been extremely lucky in that I have lost all my excess weight despite my sluggardly tendencies *ducks flying tomatoes*, but I know full well that I can't count on keeping it off if I don't get going on some regular exercise one of these days. And I AM going to do that, beginning with some regular walking once the temperatures outside are more humane. In the meantime, I sit in awe of people who are really disciplined about exercise, especially ones who actually go to gyms. Gyms scare the living daylights out of me! I would have NO IDEA whatsoever to do in one. That makes me feel dumb and embarrassed...but it does NOT stop me from enjoying stories like Dan's. It's like hearing about another world, one that is completely alien to me, but fascinating. :oD The idea of actually criticizing someone for talking about exercise is just ridiculous to me. Exercise is GOOD for people...ALL people, not just postops. I know DSers who tell me that they don't have to exercise to keep their weight off after that procedure, but I think I'd want to exercise even if I had an ironclad guarantee that I was never going to regain whether I exercised or not. I want some MUSCLE TONE, goshdarn it! What the heck was that person smoking? *shakes head* Sharon > I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and > feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. > If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't > bad. Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I don't smoke anything. Quit because I had asthma which has disappeared after the surgery. I am recommending exercise because it is fun, you will look and feel better for doing it, you have lost muscle from your surgery and you need to get it back, and it is a marvelous feeling to gain a new kind of control over your body and your appearance. I'm not critiquing anybody who doesn't do it: I'm suggesting that they will enjoy it if they try. On 2/19/03 2:58 PM, " Sharon wrote: > I am a " need to start exercising " person myself. I have been a > slacker so far, but I feel GUILTY about that, not proud. I have been > extremely lucky in that I have lost all my excess weight despite my > sluggardly tendencies *ducks flying tomatoes*, but I know full well > that I can't count on keeping it off if I don't get going on some > regular exercise one of these days. And I AM going to do that, > beginning with some regular walking once the temperatures outside are > more humane. In the meantime, I sit in awe of people who are really > disciplined about exercise, especially ones who actually go to gyms. > Gyms scare the living daylights out of me! I would have NO IDEA > whatsoever to do in one. That makes me feel dumb and > embarrassed...but it does NOT stop me from enjoying stories like > Dan's. It's like hearing about another world, one that is completely > alien to me, but fascinating. :oD > > The idea of actually criticizing someone for talking about exercise > is just ridiculous to me. Exercise is GOOD for people...ALL people, > not just postops. I know DSers who tell me that they don't have to > exercise to keep their weight off after that procedure, but I think > I'd want to exercise even if I had an ironclad guarantee that I was > never going to regain whether I exercised or not. I want some MUSCLE > TONE, goshdarn it! > > What the heck was that person smoking? *shakes head* > > Sharon > > >> I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and >> feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. >> If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't >> bad. > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 <<It's not lifting weights that hard. Nor trying to walk at a 10% grade at 4.5MPH that's hard. Getting up and getting in the mood to hit the gym is what's really hard!!<G> After I get there...it's just as natural as coffee in the AM; can't do much without it.>> Dan, when you get bored, you can come visit me for a workout...NO! Not THAT kind! LOL It seems that I LIVE at a gym. No need to drive to one. Every morning and evening, I go out and do a few 50 lb. lifts, dumping feed bags into barrels. Once a week I do 30 reps (that's 1500 lbs), while I unload feed from my truck, carry it into the feed shed, and stack it. Then, after I do my 50's, I do 12's...carrying 20 buckets out to various spots to feed. Then there's the bends and crunches, while I bend into barrels to scoop out feed and supplements, and stoop to pick up the buckets to distribute. This is twice a day, 7 days a week, regardless of the weather, or how bad I feel. (Incidentally, mud and snow make for good resistance training.) Then, on good days, I ride and train. There's the 400 yard sprints, trying to catch whichever moron doesn't want to be ridden, and the dodging of the ones I don't want to ride, but want my attention RIGHT NOW! The funny thing is, no matter how bad I feel before I go out to do my chores, I always feel better after I do them. I mean physically and mentally. No, I don't go to a gym...that would be like a vacation! But, I do what I do by choice, and I'm in terrific physical shape. And I'll be 47 in less than a week. Furthermore, I'm on 100% physical disability from the police department. I didn't ask for it. They insisted on it, since I broke my neck in late 94. I'm in better shape now than at least 50% of the officers there. And I told them that retiring me wasn't going to slow me down, but I was NOT going to be a desk jockey for the next 10 years. Of course, I don't eat donuts. LOL. Jac Sunny, Ike, and Junior (The B Gang) and Sabre (wannabe Basenis, German Shepherds) Choctaw, OK mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I don't smoke anything. Quit because I had asthma which has disappeared after the surgery. I am recommending exercise because it is fun, you will look and feel better for doing it, you have lost muscle from your surgery and you need to get it back, and it is a marvelous feeling to gain a new kind of control over your body and your appearance. I'm not critiquing anybody who doesn't do it: I'm suggesting that they will enjoy it if they try. On 2/19/03 2:58 PM, " Sharon wrote: > I am a " need to start exercising " person myself. I have been a > slacker so far, but I feel GUILTY about that, not proud. I have been > extremely lucky in that I have lost all my excess weight despite my > sluggardly tendencies *ducks flying tomatoes*, but I know full well > that I can't count on keeping it off if I don't get going on some > regular exercise one of these days. And I AM going to do that, > beginning with some regular walking once the temperatures outside are > more humane. In the meantime, I sit in awe of people who are really > disciplined about exercise, especially ones who actually go to gyms. > Gyms scare the living daylights out of me! I would have NO IDEA > whatsoever to do in one. That makes me feel dumb and > embarrassed...but it does NOT stop me from enjoying stories like > Dan's. It's like hearing about another world, one that is completely > alien to me, but fascinating. :oD > > The idea of actually criticizing someone for talking about exercise > is just ridiculous to me. Exercise is GOOD for people...ALL people, > not just postops. I know DSers who tell me that they don't have to > exercise to keep their weight off after that procedure, but I think > I'd want to exercise even if I had an ironclad guarantee that I was > never going to regain whether I exercised or not. I want some MUSCLE > TONE, goshdarn it! > > What the heck was that person smoking? *shakes head* > > Sharon > > >> I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and >> feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. >> If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't >> bad. > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 <<It's not lifting weights that hard. Nor trying to walk at a 10% grade at 4.5MPH that's hard. Getting up and getting in the mood to hit the gym is what's really hard!!<G> After I get there...it's just as natural as coffee in the AM; can't do much without it.>> Dan, when you get bored, you can come visit me for a workout...NO! Not THAT kind! LOL It seems that I LIVE at a gym. No need to drive to one. Every morning and evening, I go out and do a few 50 lb. lifts, dumping feed bags into barrels. Once a week I do 30 reps (that's 1500 lbs), while I unload feed from my truck, carry it into the feed shed, and stack it. Then, after I do my 50's, I do 12's...carrying 20 buckets out to various spots to feed. Then there's the bends and crunches, while I bend into barrels to scoop out feed and supplements, and stoop to pick up the buckets to distribute. This is twice a day, 7 days a week, regardless of the weather, or how bad I feel. (Incidentally, mud and snow make for good resistance training.) Then, on good days, I ride and train. There's the 400 yard sprints, trying to catch whichever moron doesn't want to be ridden, and the dodging of the ones I don't want to ride, but want my attention RIGHT NOW! The funny thing is, no matter how bad I feel before I go out to do my chores, I always feel better after I do them. I mean physically and mentally. No, I don't go to a gym...that would be like a vacation! But, I do what I do by choice, and I'm in terrific physical shape. And I'll be 47 in less than a week. Furthermore, I'm on 100% physical disability from the police department. I didn't ask for it. They insisted on it, since I broke my neck in late 94. I'm in better shape now than at least 50% of the officers there. And I told them that retiring me wasn't going to slow me down, but I was NOT going to be a desk jockey for the next 10 years. Of course, I don't eat donuts. LOL. Jac Sunny, Ike, and Junior (The B Gang) and Sabre (wannabe Basenis, German Shepherds) Choctaw, OK mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 , I, like you, don't understand this attitude toward exercise. I don't do as much as I would like to do. Not because I don't want to, but because of the abuse I put my body through when I was MO. Now I have problems with a Morton's Nuroma (sp?) that limits my walking ability (not to mention not being able to wear pretty shoes), a problem with my neck and my satica (sp?). Having CT's run on my neck & satica this week to see if I can get something done. Would love to be able to do it ALL. Now all I can manage is as much as my body will allow. Yes, it is better with the 200 lbs gone, but still causes pain. I love to take my daily walk. It refreshes me and makes me feel better. Can't run...bat wings can leave bruises, LOL! But to do the things that I CAN do is so freeing to me. I can feel my body move in such wonderful ways. It's just GREAT! I love it! Doesn't matter if it's in a gym or at home doing yard work. Reba in Auburn, AL > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > I. > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > RNY September 19, 2001 > Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital > BMI then: 43.5 > BMI now: 22 > -152 lbs > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 , I, like you, don't understand this attitude toward exercise. I don't do as much as I would like to do. Not because I don't want to, but because of the abuse I put my body through when I was MO. Now I have problems with a Morton's Nuroma (sp?) that limits my walking ability (not to mention not being able to wear pretty shoes), a problem with my neck and my satica (sp?). Having CT's run on my neck & satica this week to see if I can get something done. Would love to be able to do it ALL. Now all I can manage is as much as my body will allow. Yes, it is better with the 200 lbs gone, but still causes pain. I love to take my daily walk. It refreshes me and makes me feel better. Can't run...bat wings can leave bruises, LOL! But to do the things that I CAN do is so freeing to me. I can feel my body move in such wonderful ways. It's just GREAT! I love it! Doesn't matter if it's in a gym or at home doing yard work. Reba in Auburn, AL > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > I. > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > RNY September 19, 2001 > Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital > BMI then: 43.5 > BMI now: 22 > -152 lbs > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Can't argue with that!! Wouldn't want to as it sounds like you could kick my hiney into last week!!<G> There's a lot to be said for doing it the natural way to get fit and help maintain. Prior to RNY, I was pretty much on my feet all day every day as a builder and developer...had been almost all my life. Even with that, it wasn't enough to work me down the scale...but there was little argument on the job when I strode in at my height and weight. Just moving myself around made for some serious muscles and doing what gets done on job sites will likewise build up some muscle, it just never was enough to drop the weight and most assuredly, given the summer conditions here, working outside one day would be where they'd find me because I was sure not to survive too many more Summers. I'm glad to see you put your time in post disabling injury to something as fulfilling as horses and shepherds....it sounds like a full time occupation! Unlike trying to stir my lazy bones each morning....you either do what you do each day or the whole business suffers. I'll be thinking twice about how nice it is to just go to the gym rather than feeding, chasing and catching in the inclimate conditions....gym would be a luxury in comparison. Thanks for the reality check, Jacque! Dan rny10.13.98 EdWaits,MD-Atlanta RE: Good grief. <<It's not lifting weights that hard. Nor trying to walk at a 10% grade at 4.5MPH that's hard. Getting up and getting in the mood to hit the gym is what's really hard!!<G> After I get there...it's just as natural as coffee in the AM; can't do much without it.>> Dan, when you get bored, you can come visit me for a workout...NO! Not THAT kind! LOL It seems that I LIVE at a gym. No need to drive to one. Every morning and evening, I go out and do a few 50 lb. lifts, dumping feed bags into barrels. Once a week I do 30 reps (that's 1500 lbs), while I unload feed from my truck, carry it into the feed shed, and stack it. Then, after I do my 50's, I do 12's...carrying 20 buckets out to various spots to feed. Then there's the bends and crunches, while I bend into barrels to scoop out feed and supplements, and stoop to pick up the buckets to distribute. This is twice a day, 7 days a week, regardless of the weather, or how bad I feel. (Incidentally, mud and snow make for good resistance training.) Then, on good days, I ride and train. There's the 400 yard sprints, trying to catch whichever moron doesn't want to be ridden, and the dodging of the ones I don't want to ride, but want my attention RIGHT NOW! The funny thing is, no matter how bad I feel before I go out to do my chores, I always feel better after I do them. I mean physically and mentally. No, I don't go to a gym...that would be like a vacation! But, I do what I do by choice, and I'm in terrific physical shape. And I'll be 47 in less than a week. Furthermore, I'm on 100% physical disability from the police department. I didn't ask for it. They insisted on it, since I broke my neck in late 94. I'm in better shape now than at least 50% of the officers there. And I told them that retiring me wasn't going to slow me down, but I was NOT going to be a desk jockey for the next 10 years. Of course, I don't eat donuts. LOL. Jac Sunny, Ike, and Junior (The B Gang) and Sabre (wannabe Basenis, German Shepherds) Choctaw, OK mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Can't argue with that!! Wouldn't want to as it sounds like you could kick my hiney into last week!!<G> There's a lot to be said for doing it the natural way to get fit and help maintain. Prior to RNY, I was pretty much on my feet all day every day as a builder and developer...had been almost all my life. Even with that, it wasn't enough to work me down the scale...but there was little argument on the job when I strode in at my height and weight. Just moving myself around made for some serious muscles and doing what gets done on job sites will likewise build up some muscle, it just never was enough to drop the weight and most assuredly, given the summer conditions here, working outside one day would be where they'd find me because I was sure not to survive too many more Summers. I'm glad to see you put your time in post disabling injury to something as fulfilling as horses and shepherds....it sounds like a full time occupation! Unlike trying to stir my lazy bones each morning....you either do what you do each day or the whole business suffers. I'll be thinking twice about how nice it is to just go to the gym rather than feeding, chasing and catching in the inclimate conditions....gym would be a luxury in comparison. Thanks for the reality check, Jacque! Dan rny10.13.98 EdWaits,MD-Atlanta RE: Good grief. <<It's not lifting weights that hard. Nor trying to walk at a 10% grade at 4.5MPH that's hard. Getting up and getting in the mood to hit the gym is what's really hard!!<G> After I get there...it's just as natural as coffee in the AM; can't do much without it.>> Dan, when you get bored, you can come visit me for a workout...NO! Not THAT kind! LOL It seems that I LIVE at a gym. No need to drive to one. Every morning and evening, I go out and do a few 50 lb. lifts, dumping feed bags into barrels. Once a week I do 30 reps (that's 1500 lbs), while I unload feed from my truck, carry it into the feed shed, and stack it. Then, after I do my 50's, I do 12's...carrying 20 buckets out to various spots to feed. Then there's the bends and crunches, while I bend into barrels to scoop out feed and supplements, and stoop to pick up the buckets to distribute. This is twice a day, 7 days a week, regardless of the weather, or how bad I feel. (Incidentally, mud and snow make for good resistance training.) Then, on good days, I ride and train. There's the 400 yard sprints, trying to catch whichever moron doesn't want to be ridden, and the dodging of the ones I don't want to ride, but want my attention RIGHT NOW! The funny thing is, no matter how bad I feel before I go out to do my chores, I always feel better after I do them. I mean physically and mentally. No, I don't go to a gym...that would be like a vacation! But, I do what I do by choice, and I'm in terrific physical shape. And I'll be 47 in less than a week. Furthermore, I'm on 100% physical disability from the police department. I didn't ask for it. They insisted on it, since I broke my neck in late 94. I'm in better shape now than at least 50% of the officers there. And I told them that retiring me wasn't going to slow me down, but I was NOT going to be a desk jockey for the next 10 years. Of course, I don't eat donuts. LOL. Jac Sunny, Ike, and Junior (The B Gang) and Sabre (wannabe Basenis, German Shepherds) Choctaw, OK mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 , Is this pathology catching? If so, please send it my way! I know that I should exercise on a regular basis, but the best I've been able to do is a once a week exercise class. Good luck Sue > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on > those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it > to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at > those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little > of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or > anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to > exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the > straitjackets. > > I. > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > RNY September 19, 2001 > Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital > BMI then: 43.5 > BMI now: 22 > -152 lbs > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 , Is this pathology catching? If so, please send it my way! I know that I should exercise on a regular basis, but the best I've been able to do is a once a week exercise class. Good luck Sue > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on > those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it > to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at > those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little > of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or > anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to > exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the > straitjackets. > > I. > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > RNY September 19, 2001 > Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital > BMI then: 43.5 > BMI now: 22 > -152 lbs > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Well, Sue, as they say, some is better than none. But I don't know any other way than to just (to coin a phrase) do it. I think the thing that made the difference for me was deciding that my four basic classes per week were my absolute priority. If other obligations pop up, I either fit them in around my classes, or I don't do them. I think it's easier for me now because I am a writer, so I work from home -- I know that when I was working full time and juggling being the parent of a teen and a toddler, it wouldn't have been quite so easy. Still, I know a lot of women at my gym to seem to fit it all in. They have my profound admiration! Cheers! I. > , > > Is this pathology catching? If so, please send it my > way! I know that I should exercise on a regular > basis, but the best I've been able to do is a once a > week exercise class. > > Good luck > > Sue > > > > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on > > those who don't > > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it > > to do over, I > > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at > > those of us who have > > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little > > of sour grapes. I > > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or > > anyone else, about > > his " need to exercise " . > > > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to > > exercise " , then I > > am right there with you. Break out the > > straitjackets. > > > > I. > > -- > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > RNY September 19, 2001 > > Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital > > BMI then: 43.5 > > BMI now: 22 > > -152 lbs > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Well, Sue, as they say, some is better than none. But I don't know any other way than to just (to coin a phrase) do it. I think the thing that made the difference for me was deciding that my four basic classes per week were my absolute priority. If other obligations pop up, I either fit them in around my classes, or I don't do them. I think it's easier for me now because I am a writer, so I work from home -- I know that when I was working full time and juggling being the parent of a teen and a toddler, it wouldn't have been quite so easy. Still, I know a lot of women at my gym to seem to fit it all in. They have my profound admiration! Cheers! I. > , > > Is this pathology catching? If so, please send it my > way! I know that I should exercise on a regular > basis, but the best I've been able to do is a once a > week exercise class. > > Good luck > > Sue > > > > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on > > those who don't > > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it > > to do over, I > > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at > > those of us who have > > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little > > of sour grapes. I > > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or > > anyone else, about > > his " need to exercise " . > > > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to > > exercise " , then I > > am right there with you. Break out the > > straitjackets. > > > > I. > > -- > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > RNY September 19, 2001 > > Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital > > BMI then: 43.5 > > BMI now: 22 > > -152 lbs > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 One of the reasons I decided on WLS is that I could hardly move anymore. I was an active, lively person living in a body that made it impossible for me to express that side of myself. It's not just exercise, it's moving. I don't always want to go to the gym, but once I get there, I have no idea why I didn't want to go. My main motivation for working out is so that I have the strength, flexibility and endurance to do the other things in my life that are important to me. I am certainly not a jock. I don't go on 3 day hikes with a 100 pound pack on my back. But I do like to be strong, so I can do what I want to do, like lift a 50 lb bag of compost when I am doing gardening, or dig a hole in hard clay. I can go for a long walk without passing out. I often dance around the house when I am home. I like to be able to crawl under a desk to untangle the cords. I love reaching up into a cupboard and stretching my whole body as I do it. I can rearrange my furniture without a problem (okay, maybe some sore muscles.) For me, moving is about being who I really am. Movement is a joyful thing for me, not a chore, although there are times I really don't want to go to the gym. I don't really like the word " exercise " , because it has become associated with " have to " . I like to move for the sake of moving, it makes me feel alive. I am now going to jump down from my soapbox and go for a walk. BarbaraJean Re: Good grief. I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > Dan wrote: >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of >> our > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > feel it > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > " surgery > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > need to > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > showing no signs of slowing down. > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > age? Take a guess. > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > awed voice. LOL > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > I. -- Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 One of the reasons I decided on WLS is that I could hardly move anymore. I was an active, lively person living in a body that made it impossible for me to express that side of myself. It's not just exercise, it's moving. I don't always want to go to the gym, but once I get there, I have no idea why I didn't want to go. My main motivation for working out is so that I have the strength, flexibility and endurance to do the other things in my life that are important to me. I am certainly not a jock. I don't go on 3 day hikes with a 100 pound pack on my back. But I do like to be strong, so I can do what I want to do, like lift a 50 lb bag of compost when I am doing gardening, or dig a hole in hard clay. I can go for a long walk without passing out. I often dance around the house when I am home. I like to be able to crawl under a desk to untangle the cords. I love reaching up into a cupboard and stretching my whole body as I do it. I can rearrange my furniture without a problem (okay, maybe some sore muscles.) For me, moving is about being who I really am. Movement is a joyful thing for me, not a chore, although there are times I really don't want to go to the gym. I don't really like the word " exercise " , because it has become associated with " have to " . I like to move for the sake of moving, it makes me feel alive. I am now going to jump down from my soapbox and go for a walk. BarbaraJean Re: Good grief. I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > Dan wrote: >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of >> our > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > feel it > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > " surgery > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > need to > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > showing no signs of slowing down. > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > age? Take a guess. > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > awed voice. LOL > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > his " need to exercise " . > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > I. -- Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 What are you talking about? You don't have to stretch to reach cabinets! You just open the door. I, on the other hand, don't have to bend to reach the lower cabinets. Win some, lose some. But you said, " It's not just exercise, it's moving. I don't always want to go to the gym, but once I get there, I have no idea why I didn't want to go. " DITTO! Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Good grief. > > > I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at > least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to > substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > > > > > Dan wrote: > >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of > >> our > > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > > feel it > > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > > " surgery > > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > > need to > > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > > showing no signs of slowing down. > > > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > > age? Take a guess. > > > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > > awed voice. LOL > > > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > > his " need to exercise " . > > > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > > > I. > > -- > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 What are you talking about? You don't have to stretch to reach cabinets! You just open the door. I, on the other hand, don't have to bend to reach the lower cabinets. Win some, lose some. But you said, " It's not just exercise, it's moving. I don't always want to go to the gym, but once I get there, I have no idea why I didn't want to go. " DITTO! Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Good grief. > > > I am another need to exercise person. I went from 309 to 175 and feel at > least as good from the exercise as from the weight loss. If you have to > substitute one addiction for another, exercise isn't bad. > > > > > Dan wrote: > >> I may have been mis-read or read on a particularly bad day for one of > >> our > > lurking members who had quite a few things to say about why she didn't > > feel it > > necessary to exercise after having gone through the WLS. To quote: > > " surgery > > and a small stomach is torture enough; I don't need to hear about YOUR > > need to > > exercise. Not all of us have to do anything more than lose it. " > > > > Ye gods. That is all I can say. > > > > Oh, okay, actually it's not. I can also say that I find this attitude > > mystifying in the extreme. Yes, it's a big deal to lose the weight, and > > for some of us, that's all we're going to be able to manage, at least > > in the short term. But for me, I didn't have this surgery just so that > > I could " lose it " -- I had it so that my body would work, feel and > > look better, in equal measure. And one of the ways I can think of to > > help my body do that is to exercise it, regularly and vigorously. > > > > You know, I have a very dear relative who has struggled with her weight > > all her life. In the years I've known her, she has always balked at > > walking when she could drive, even to the corner store. She has stayed > > as far away from physical exertion as she could, all her life. I don't > > know why -- I think it might have had something to do with being raised > > to think that physical work was not " ladylike " . At nearly 82, she is > > now house-bound, completely unable to do much more than hobble from the > > kitchen to the bedroom and back again, with the aid of a walker. While > > she is no longer overweight, she has no muscle tone anywhere on her > > body, and finds it amazing that her husband, who is exactly the same > > age, is able to continue his daily hour-long walks, get out regularly > > to meet friends, participate in community activities, etc. He, on the > > other hand, takes several seniors fitness classes per week, and is > > showing no signs of slowing down. > > > > Which of these two people would I most like to emulate when I'm their > > age? Take a guess. > > > > And on the WLS front, I went to see my surgeon on Monday for my > > 18-month check-in. He was not only delighted that I am at my goal > > weight (and have been here for 4 months or so), but he said he's never > > seen such improvement in the hanging skin situation in any patient he's > > had. Yes, I do have some loose skin, but considering that I've lost 152 > > lbs., it's not bad at all. I attribute this to all those ab crunches, > > plank poses, reverse crunches, and other horrors I inflict on my tummy > > four or five days a week. I told him that underneath my hanging skin I > > have pretty good musculature, and he just said, " You sure DO! " in this > > awed voice. LOL > > > > So...this isn't to impose yet another obligation on those who don't > > want to, or feel unable to exercise, but if I had it to do over, I > > wouldn't have gone any other way. And yelling at those of us who have > > chosen this path seems to me to smell just a little of sour grapes. I > > really fail to see the point in kvetching at Dan, or anyone else, about > > his " need to exercise " . > > > > And Dan, if it's some kind of pathology to " need to exercise " , then I > > am right there with you. Break out the straitjackets. > > > > I. > > -- > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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