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On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:32:49 -0800 " Vitalady "

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> I've never even seen a thin person who didn't occasionally make bad

> food

> choices, binge on a favorite food, or try to outeat emotional

> distress.

>

> Vitalady, Inc. T

Yep, I so totally agree. My granddad was one of those. He could eat a

half a gallon of ice cream at night and go to bed without ever gaining an

ounce. My grandmother and I would think of ice cream and gain 10 lbs.

(Actually, I think we ate everything else in an attempt to avoid the ice

cream but that's a different story.) My granddad finally decide after

his quadruple bypass that maybe that half a gallon of ice cream before

bed wasn't such a good idea.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

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Okay, don't laugh too much. I eat lying down on my left side sometimes.

When I do this, I find that I can eat a lot more before I feel full. Is

there anyone else out there that has this experience?>>

Young lady, you quit lying down to eat! Sit up straight, put one hand in

your lap, and use your napkin and best table manners! LOL

All I can tell you, is if I eat lying down...right side, left side, face

down, face up, I get terribly sick. That means no snacking in bed for me!

But, I'm of the opinion, for me, that is a good thing. If I KNOW it's going

to make me feel bad (and/or gain weight) I don't do it. I KNOW sugar will

make me dump. I love chocolate, but I know that one bite is my limit. I can

make a pound of chocolate last a year. I've learned to enjoy that one

bite...and stop at that. We all have to remember that the same thing doesn't

affect us all the same way. I've even learned that something that bothers me

this time, may not the next time I try it. And vice versa. Just because it

doesn't " bite " me this time doesn't mean it won't next time.

Jac

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before and after pictures at:

http://hometown.aol.com/jrandjrholdaway

http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

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Okay, don't laugh too much. I eat lying down on my left side sometimes.

When I do this, I find that I can eat a lot more before I feel full. Is

there anyone else out there that has this experience?>>

Young lady, you quit lying down to eat! Sit up straight, put one hand in

your lap, and use your napkin and best table manners! LOL

All I can tell you, is if I eat lying down...right side, left side, face

down, face up, I get terribly sick. That means no snacking in bed for me!

But, I'm of the opinion, for me, that is a good thing. If I KNOW it's going

to make me feel bad (and/or gain weight) I don't do it. I KNOW sugar will

make me dump. I love chocolate, but I know that one bite is my limit. I can

make a pound of chocolate last a year. I've learned to enjoy that one

bite...and stop at that. We all have to remember that the same thing doesn't

affect us all the same way. I've even learned that something that bothers me

this time, may not the next time I try it. And vice versa. Just because it

doesn't " bite " me this time doesn't mean it won't next time.

Jac

mailto:jholdaway@...

before and after pictures at:

http://hometown.aol.com/jrandjrholdaway

http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

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> According to my surgeon who appeared at our support group, thin

> people analyze what they are eating, compute calories more then we

> think and compensate for a bad day by dieting the next.

I don't know that this is true universally, but I imagine there is a pretty

large group of thin people who DON'T eat whatever they want. We all know someone

who can eat like a horse and never gain -- their metabolisms are the exception

rather than the norm, I expect.

In my lifetime, I never saw my grandmother fat. She had been morbidly obese as a

teenager, dieted her way to thinness, and stayed there her entire life. (She

told me she decided she had to lose weight when she fell through the farmhouse

porch.) She had a lovely figure and dressed elegantly, and never looked like

there was an extra ounce on her. But when I think about how she ate, I realize

that she never put the food into her mouth that she cooked for the rest of us.

At Thanksgiving the table would be groaning with food, and she would keep

herself busy running back and forth between the kitchen and the dining room, and

finally she would sit down, take a little turkey, a little salad, usually no

potatoes or dressing, usually no dessert or just a sliver of pie. She'd munch on

the relish tray with pickles and carrots while we were muching on chips and dip.

Until I was an adult I never realized that she was mentally figuring out what

she could and couldn't have if she wanted to keep looking good.

She also exercised daily living in a 3-story house. When my grandfather put an

addition on and moved their bedroom downstairs, she complained that she was

missing out on a lot of her daily running, and she moved her sewing room

upstairs. She didn't drive to anyplace that was within walking distance of an

hour there & back. She kept a full garden and ran a business full time, often on

her feet for hours.

Looking back, I can see it was her habits and her choices that kept her thin.

She had 6 sisters, and she was the only thin one of the bunch.

For us, these habits are hard to develop. We eat emotionally, we have

deep-seated reasons for our obesity that are not as simple as " just don't eat so

much. " But maybe if we can learn some of these thin habits, and really work at

them, we'll have a better chance than if we just follow our head hunger and

throw caution to the wind.

I won't flame your doctor -- he may have made a blanket statement that doesn't

bear up in every circumstance, but he was thinking in the right direction.

~~ Lyn G

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> According to my surgeon who appeared at our support group, thin

> people analyze what they are eating, compute calories more then we

> think and compensate for a bad day by dieting the next.

I don't know that this is true universally, but I imagine there is a pretty

large group of thin people who DON'T eat whatever they want. We all know someone

who can eat like a horse and never gain -- their metabolisms are the exception

rather than the norm, I expect.

In my lifetime, I never saw my grandmother fat. She had been morbidly obese as a

teenager, dieted her way to thinness, and stayed there her entire life. (She

told me she decided she had to lose weight when she fell through the farmhouse

porch.) She had a lovely figure and dressed elegantly, and never looked like

there was an extra ounce on her. But when I think about how she ate, I realize

that she never put the food into her mouth that she cooked for the rest of us.

At Thanksgiving the table would be groaning with food, and she would keep

herself busy running back and forth between the kitchen and the dining room, and

finally she would sit down, take a little turkey, a little salad, usually no

potatoes or dressing, usually no dessert or just a sliver of pie. She'd munch on

the relish tray with pickles and carrots while we were muching on chips and dip.

Until I was an adult I never realized that she was mentally figuring out what

she could and couldn't have if she wanted to keep looking good.

She also exercised daily living in a 3-story house. When my grandfather put an

addition on and moved their bedroom downstairs, she complained that she was

missing out on a lot of her daily running, and she moved her sewing room

upstairs. She didn't drive to anyplace that was within walking distance of an

hour there & back. She kept a full garden and ran a business full time, often on

her feet for hours.

Looking back, I can see it was her habits and her choices that kept her thin.

She had 6 sisters, and she was the only thin one of the bunch.

For us, these habits are hard to develop. We eat emotionally, we have

deep-seated reasons for our obesity that are not as simple as " just don't eat so

much. " But maybe if we can learn some of these thin habits, and really work at

them, we'll have a better chance than if we just follow our head hunger and

throw caution to the wind.

I won't flame your doctor -- he may have made a blanket statement that doesn't

bear up in every circumstance, but he was thinking in the right direction.

~~ Lyn G

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Oh Lyn! I loved the story about your grandmother. What an

inspiration it was to me. She is a very wise women and you should

be proud to know her :) Thank you for sharing...

I do tend to agree with everything you said. There are many of us

who have just as many reasons for our obesity, but at the end of the

day we still have to learn to make good choices and change our

behavior.

Carol G.

> > According to my surgeon who appeared at our support group, thin

> > people analyze what they are eating, compute calories more then

we

> > think and compensate for a bad day by dieting the next.

>

> I don't know that this is true universally, but I imagine there is

a pretty large group of thin people who DON'T eat whatever they

want. We all know someone who can eat like a horse and never gain --

their metabolisms are the exception rather than the norm, I expect.

>

> In my lifetime, I never saw my grandmother fat. She had been

morbidly obese as a teenager, dieted her way to thinness, and stayed

there her entire life. (She told me she decided she had to lose

weight when she fell through the farmhouse porch.) She had a lovely

figure and dressed elegantly, and never looked like there was an

extra ounce on her. But when I think about how she ate, I realize

that she never put the food into her mouth that she cooked for the

rest of us. At Thanksgiving the table would be groaning with food,

and she would keep herself busy running back and forth between the

kitchen and the dining room, and finally she would sit down, take a

little turkey, a little salad, usually no potatoes or dressing,

usually no dessert or just a sliver of pie. She'd munch on the

relish tray with pickles and carrots while we were muching on chips

and dip. Until I was an adult I never realized that she was mentally

figuring out what she could and couldn't have if she wanted to keep

looking good.

>

> She also exercised daily living in a 3-story house. When my

grandfather put an addition on and moved their bedroom downstairs,

she complained that she was missing out on a lot of her daily

running, and she moved her sewing room upstairs. She didn't drive to

anyplace that was within walking distance of an hour there & back.

She kept a full garden and ran a business full time, often on her

feet for hours.

>

> Looking back, I can see it was her habits and her choices that

kept her thin. She had 6 sisters, and she was the only thin one of

the bunch.

>

> For us, these habits are hard to develop. We eat emotionally, we

have deep-seated reasons for our obesity that are not as simple

as " just don't eat so much. " But maybe if we can learn some of these

thin habits, and really work at them, we'll have a better chance

than if we just follow our head hunger and throw caution to the wind.

>

> I won't flame your doctor -- he may have made a blanket statement

that doesn't bear up in every circumstance, but he was thinking in

the right direction.

>

> ~~ Lyn G

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Oh Lyn! I loved the story about your grandmother. What an

inspiration it was to me. She is a very wise women and you should

be proud to know her :) Thank you for sharing...

I do tend to agree with everything you said. There are many of us

who have just as many reasons for our obesity, but at the end of the

day we still have to learn to make good choices and change our

behavior.

Carol G.

> > According to my surgeon who appeared at our support group, thin

> > people analyze what they are eating, compute calories more then

we

> > think and compensate for a bad day by dieting the next.

>

> I don't know that this is true universally, but I imagine there is

a pretty large group of thin people who DON'T eat whatever they

want. We all know someone who can eat like a horse and never gain --

their metabolisms are the exception rather than the norm, I expect.

>

> In my lifetime, I never saw my grandmother fat. She had been

morbidly obese as a teenager, dieted her way to thinness, and stayed

there her entire life. (She told me she decided she had to lose

weight when she fell through the farmhouse porch.) She had a lovely

figure and dressed elegantly, and never looked like there was an

extra ounce on her. But when I think about how she ate, I realize

that she never put the food into her mouth that she cooked for the

rest of us. At Thanksgiving the table would be groaning with food,

and she would keep herself busy running back and forth between the

kitchen and the dining room, and finally she would sit down, take a

little turkey, a little salad, usually no potatoes or dressing,

usually no dessert or just a sliver of pie. She'd munch on the

relish tray with pickles and carrots while we were muching on chips

and dip. Until I was an adult I never realized that she was mentally

figuring out what she could and couldn't have if she wanted to keep

looking good.

>

> She also exercised daily living in a 3-story house. When my

grandfather put an addition on and moved their bedroom downstairs,

she complained that she was missing out on a lot of her daily

running, and she moved her sewing room upstairs. She didn't drive to

anyplace that was within walking distance of an hour there & back.

She kept a full garden and ran a business full time, often on her

feet for hours.

>

> Looking back, I can see it was her habits and her choices that

kept her thin. She had 6 sisters, and she was the only thin one of

the bunch.

>

> For us, these habits are hard to develop. We eat emotionally, we

have deep-seated reasons for our obesity that are not as simple

as " just don't eat so much. " But maybe if we can learn some of these

thin habits, and really work at them, we'll have a better chance

than if we just follow our head hunger and throw caution to the wind.

>

> I won't flame your doctor -- he may have made a blanket statement

that doesn't bear up in every circumstance, but he was thinking in

the right direction.

>

> ~~ Lyn G

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